Note: This ballot was opened for revision 16 and is now closed.
Summary: Needs 2 more YES or NO OBJECTION positions to pass.
Comment (2014-01-23 for -16)
Please Tim's OPS DIR review (currently under discussion)
First, I would note that I have already contributed comments/text to this
draft, as acknowledged by Fernando. It’s been a few versions since I last read
The goal of the draft has considerable merit, and I believe the document is
worthy of publication, subject to comments belwo being considered.
I would classify the document as ‘Ready with issues’.
1. In the discussion in section 5 on the algorithm, it may be desirable to
suggest that implementations allow a choice of IID generation based on
‘classic’ SLAAC with EUI-64 or via this new proposed method, with a default of
the new method.
2. In the algorithm section, there is a comment that interface names MUST
remain the same across boots or down/up events for the stable privacy address
to remain stable. I have (admittedly some time ago, and in rare cases) seen
Linux installations where network interface names can ‘swap’, thus changing the
address in use on the interface under the proposed algorithm, whereas with
existing EUI64 SLAAC the IIDs would remain the same even if the interface name
for a physical interface changed. This is probably rather more likely if
replacing a network card on motherboard with on-board NIC(s). Perhaps Fernando
can comment on whether this is a realistic concern with modern OSes.
3. I assume the IID may/will vary for a different OS run on the same host, e.g.
where the host is dual-boot, or where a new OS installed (or the same OS
re-installed). A different OS may well use a different F(), given that’s not
specified. With EUI-64, a dual-boot host would likely have the same address
under either OS (well, not Windows any more…). This may be worth making
4. The draft talks (in one place in Section 3) about stable privacy addresses
being allocated by DHCPv6; some further discussion of how this might be
achieved may be useful given the secret key is presumed to be generated on and
reside on the host, not the DHCPv6 server. Or would this be described in a
separate future draft? This may be a case where the administrator being able
to display or change the secret key needs to be more than a MAY as currently
satted in the text.
5. Design goal 1 might add “and same interface” for scenarios where a host has
two interfaces in the same subnet (with the same prefix). This scenario is one
that may cause ‘interesting’ effects with addresses if interface names swap and
no Network_ID is used.
6. I’d suggest not mentioning MD5.
1. Some references are included multiple times, e.g. [RFC4941], rather than
only at the first instance.
2. Design goal 2, perhaps say “must” rather than “do”?
3. In section 4 the author states the goal of stable IIDs within a given
subnet. It may be better to say for a given prefix, given a renumbering process
will change the prefix and with it the IID, though by loose language you might
refer to it as the same subnet.
In response to recent discussion on 6man, I don’t believe it’s practical or
desirable for a node to store addresses related to locations (networks)
visited. I agree with the author that the static address per network should be
Comment (2014-01-20 for -16)
Section 2., paragraph 4:
> Note that the result of F() in the algorithm above is no more secure
> than the secret key. If an attacker is aware of the PRF that is
> being used by the victim (which we should expect), and the attacker
> can obtain enough material (i.e. addresses configured by the victim),
> the attacker may simply search the entire secret-key space to find
> matches. To protect against this, the secret key should be of a
> reasonable length. Key lengths of at least 128 bits should be
> adequate. The secret key is initialized at system installation time
> to a pseudo-random number, thus allowing this mechanism to be enabled
> /used automatically, without user intervention.
Isn't there a requirement (MUST) or at least a recommendation (RECOMMENDED)
to say something about the minimum length of the secret key? Just to let
implementers know from what length on the secret is 'safe' as input?
Comment (2014-01-23 for -16)
This is a very well-written and clear document. Thank you for that.
Comment (2014-01-28 for -17)
Thanks for those changes.
One new comment. It'd be better to reference HMAC-SHA1 and
HMAC-SHA256 as the examples and not SHA1 and SHA256.
There are relevant security differences between those,
depending on how you provide and process the inputs to F().
(I've not tried to figure out if ther're significant here, but the
HMAC flavours are just better and if you did use them then
I'd not even need to think about it:-)
If you're not happy to do that then rather than say that SHA1
or SHA256 can be used "for" F(), it'd be better to say that F()
can be "baeed upon" SHA1, as that'd encompass HMAC-SHA1
Comment (2014-01-20 for -16)
Based on a quick skim of this document and the judgement that it has
no direct impact on the routing infrastructure, I am balloting No
Comment (2014-01-22 for -16)
This is an algorithm to generate stable, private, and mostly unique addresses.
It does not affect interoperability at all if people choose a different method.
Anyone can accomplish the same task in a number of different ways. This is just
a nice method to use if someone wanted to use it. This should just be an
Informational document explaining a nice way to generate stable, private,
mostly unique addresses without all of the MUSTs and SHOULDs, which are not
interoperability requirements in the first place. Standardizing this is silly
in the extreme.
Comment (2014-01-21 for -16)
As Adrian says, this does not look like it impacts the routing systems so based
on a quick skim, no objection.
I am, however, left pondering as to whether a simple call to the system RNG
wouldn't work well enough most of the time.