Agenda interim-2019-cellar-06: Tue 20:00
agenda-interim-2019-cellar-06-sessa-00
| Meeting Agenda | Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission (cellar) WG | |
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| Date and time | 2019-07-30 20:00 | |
| Title | Agenda interim-2019-cellar-06: Tue 20:00 | |
| State | Active | |
| Other versions | plain text | |
| Last updated | 2019-07-29 |
agenda-interim-2019-cellar-06-sessa-00
CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting July 30, 2019 20:00 UTC INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-06/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-06-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from June 25 meeting (attached below) 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD evaluation. ACTION from last time: ==> issue #257, requested one more day to think about it. The changes are fine in general, but want to make sure it precise enough. (MB) * Thank for reposting of draft-ietf-cellar-tags-02, draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-03 and draft-ietf-cellar-codec-02 * The personal draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00 did not get reposted. I believe that we adopted it, so it should have been reposted with a draft-ietf-cellar-flac-00! 5. Any remining EBML issues. 5. Work on Matroska issues. 6. Any other business. ==== CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting June 25, 2019 20:00 UTC INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-05/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-05-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes Present: 1) Michael Richardson 2) Moritz Bunkus 3) Martin Below 4) Steve Lhomme 5) Dave Rice 6) Jérôme Martinez Regrets: 1) Reto Kromer 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from May 28 meeting accepted without change. 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update * MCR still need to help Martin on large pull request. * EBML changes... done. + issue #257, requested one more day to think about it. The changes are fine in general, but want to make sure it precise enough. (MB) * ffv1 has been submitted to IESG by AD. 5. Work on Matroska issues. 48 open issues 21 open pull requests https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues Next time, Steve will walk us through XSLT code to validate the specification. TAG: "format extension" suggestion that does not have to go into the main spec, because it could be added as separate spec https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22format+extension%22 "format addition" something that has to go into main specification. https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22format+addition%22 * As the WebM will not be defined, remove all of the WebM specific stuff. * MCR suggests removing it from the Matroska document, and leave the history for others. * MB: DivX is also not part of Matroska. Also concerned about how the Matroska project presents the WebM/DiVX vs core Matroska elements. The spec will be huge, so take things out. * define how to add unpredictable data to the Matroska, so we could track things that are added. Not just WebM, but also a libmotrsaka as well. * extension data would be on their own lines, and revision history would be clearly. 6. Any other business. ==== CELLAR -- DRAFT MINUTES for Virtual Interim Meeting May 28, 2019 20:00 UTC INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-04/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-04-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN You can try this at any time. These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes Present: 1) michael richardson 2) Steve Lhomme 3) Martin Below 4) Jerome Martinez 5) Dave Rice 6) Michael Niedermayer Proposed Agenda: 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from April 2 meeting 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim (as agreed last meeting) 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update - EBML seems to be getting some additional edits, is it done? These were the issues that are waiting for clarification: https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aclarifications We still have a few open. Can we close them now? Dave Rice expected to push version 10.... VERSION 10 released 2019-05-28 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/10/). Merged many issues. This addresses AD issues from Ben Campbell and Robert Sparks.... remaining 2 11.1.11. XML Schema for EBML Schema (Dave volunteers to complete this) The following "XSD" definition is in <FORMAT> (add W3C citation), and can be used to validate an EBML Schema using <TOOL> The use of unknown-size requires to know the EBML Schema. Add an example of unknown-size element. Michael will contact Martin in the coming days/weeks to work on his large chapter pull request. 5. Matroska document changes since last meeting. https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues Can we close some of these, and/or get them sorted and prioritized? a) Dave Rice to post request for volunteers, offers to mentor. b) MCR to mentor Martin on github-fu c) all to review pull requests on Matroska, look for conflicts and *discussion* (new tag) that we can go through next time. d) MCR to ping Moritz about next time. 6. Started 4-week adopting call for Free Lossless Audio Codec draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00 will end at next virtual-interim meeting. please post your opinion about the document? Does it fit into what the charter asked for? Q: ffv1. last meeting new AD? A: we are waiting for feedback. ACTION: mcr to bug AD about ffv1. meeting ended 16:55.