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Meeting Agenda Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission (cellar) WG
Date and time 2019-09-24 19:00
Title Agenda interim-2019-cellar-08: Tue 21:00
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agenda-interim-2019-cellar-08-sessa-01
CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
September 24, 2019     19:00 UTC
                       21:00 Amsterdam
                       15:00 NYC
                       12:00 San Francisco

   NOTE new regular time.

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-08/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-08-sessa/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://appear.in/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

1. Note Well.
2. Accept draft minutes from July 30 meeting (attached below)

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN is not called "whereby.com"
       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

   2c) Roll call

4. WG status update
   * EBML -- STILL WAITING ON REVISED -11 document for AD evaluation.

5. Remining EBML issues, hoping for none.
      Issue #279 https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/issues/279
      Pull request: https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/pull/281

5. Work on Matroska issues.

6. Any other business.

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CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
August 27, 2019        19:00 UTC
                               21:00 Amsterdam
                               15:00 NYC
                               12:00 San Francisco

        NOTE this is one hour earlier than last time!

Participants:
    1) Michael Richardson
    2) Martin Below
    3) Steve Lhomme
    4) Michael Niedermayer
    5) Dave Rice
    6) Reto Kromer
    7) Jerome Martinez
    8) Benjamin Turkus

Regrets:
    1) Moritz Bunkus

        INFO:
           https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-07/session/cellar
           https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-07-sessa/

        WEB CONFERENCE:
           https://appear.in/cellar-interim
           THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
           These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

        1. Note Well.
        2. Accept draft minutes from July 30 meeting (attached below)
        minutes accepted.
        Agenda amended to include FFV1.

        3. Logistics for Meeting.
           2a) Etherpad for notes
               https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

           2b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"
               https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

           2c) Roll call

        4. WG status update
           * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD evaluation.
           We had a lot of conversation last time about solving this logjam.
           Much work on it 2019-08-26, is it done?

        5. Remining EBML issues, hoping for none.
              Issue #279
              https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/issues/279 Pull
              request: https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/pull/281
        ACTION: Dave will review the rest of the document to ensure that
        allowing Global Elements at
                                Root Element is consistent with the rest of the
                                document.
                        (also will ping Moritz)

        5. FFV1
        -->
        https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cellar/noQ6X-9GPJ3yB3jSeLeHHMwOgh8
        --> how will SVG be sent to datatracker if the SVG are not embedded? -->

        6. Work on Matroska issues.

        ACTION: #335 Agree that NextUID is the way to use hard-linking, PrevUID
        is used as a safety for
                                recovery of missing segments (optional).
        ACTION: #287 will get additional examples from Dave Rice.

        7. Any other business.

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                CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
                July 30, 2019        20:00 UTC

                Present:
                        1) Michael Richardson
                        2) Timothy B. Terriberry
                        3) Steve Lhomme
                        4) Martin Below
                        5) Dave Rice
                        6) Michael Niedermeier

        Regrets:
                    Jerome Martinez

                INFO:
                   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-06/session/cellar
                   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-06-sessa/

                WEB CONFERENCE:
                   https://appear.in/cellar-interim
                   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
                   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

                1. Note Well.
                        https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

                2. Accept draft minutes from June 25 meeting (attached below)
                        No objections/changes, minutes passed.

                3. Logistics for Meeting.
                   2a) Etherpad for notes
                       https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

                   2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing.
                       https://appear.in/cellar-interim

                   2c) Roll call

                4. WG status update
                   * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD
                   evaluation.
                ACTION from last time:
                               ==> issue #257, requested one more day to think
                               about it.
                                                        The changes
                            are fine in general, but want to make sure it
                            precise enough. (MB)

                We created issue #279 to introduce some new text to better
                explain what a Global Element is, and why it does not end an
                unlimited size Element.

                   * Thank for reposting of draft-ietf-cellar-tags-02,
                         draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-03  and
                         draft-ietf-cellar-codec-02

                   * The personal draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00 did not get
                   reposted.
                     I believe that we adopted it, so it should have been
                     reposted with a draft-ietf-cellar-flac-00!

                reposted today, thank you.

                5. Any remining EBML issues.

                none known.

                6. ffv1-07 could be reposted in v3 format.
                ACTION: mcr to ask DataTracker and RSE if they are ready for
                this.

                7. Work on Matroska issues.

                Closed issue #325 (merged).
                Discussed issue #334 and related issue #308.

                8. Any other business.

                Matroska Pull request #318 will be on the agenda for next time.

                Meeting will be moved to an hour earlier, until the time
                changes. Currently it is 23:00 Berlin, so we will anchor the
                meeting to 22:00 Berlin time.