Agenda interim-2022-cellar-01: Tue 21:00
agenda-interim-2022-cellar-01-sessa-00
| Meeting Agenda | Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission (cellar) WG | |
|---|---|---|
| Date and time | 2022-01-25 20:00 | |
| Title | Agenda interim-2022-cellar-01: Tue 21:00 | |
| State | Active | |
| Other versions | markdown | |
| Last updated | 2022-01-25 |
agenda-interim-2022-cellar-01-sessa-00
CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
| Date | Time | Local Times |
|---|---|---|
| 2022-01-25 | 21:00 Amsterdam | Time Converter |
| Note | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam |
Administrivia
INFO:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2022-01
Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here
WEB CONFERENCE:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=7c38e939-3eaf-451e-8fde-8d05e4bd88c8
Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual
- Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc.
- Please ask Spencer if you have questions.
:::warning
The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. Please bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it.
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Logistics for Meeting
2022 virtual interim meeting dates
- Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/
Agenda Items
Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
Roll call
Attendees
*
* Michael Richardson
Regrets
* Spencer Dawkins (will be 30 min late)
Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below)
- Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list.
- No objections on the mailing list or on the call.
WG status update
- draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-18 was posted 2021-11-27, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
Milestone review:
-
Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've published FFV1.
ACTION Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit a (small) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger issues, to publish as a draft. -
Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/tree/corrections-doc) - we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes before submitting anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know everything Matroska needs will be covered"
Discussion on the call
*
Matroska issues - Discussion on the call
*
FLAC issues - Discussion on the call
*
FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call
- No discussion on the call
AOB?
*
:::success
NEXT MEETING 2022-01-25 :tada:
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CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
| Date | Time | Local Times |
|---|---|---|
| 2021-11-23 | 21:00 Amsterdam | Time Converter |
| Note | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam |
Administrivia
INFO:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2021-10
Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here
WEB CONFERENCE:
https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try connecting to the whereby.com link at any time.)
Try out the meetecho link:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=ec140dba-9bf7-4173-80cf-bf1d86100095
Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual
- Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc.
- Please ask Spencer if you have questions.
:::warning
The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. Please bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it.
:::
Logistics for Meeting
2021 virtual interim meeting dates
- Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/
Agenda Items
Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
Roll call
Attendees
* Spencer Dawkins
* Michael Richardson
* Martijn van Beurden
* Steve Lhomme
* Jérôme Martinez
* Michael Niedermayer
* Dave Rice
Regrets
*
News You Can Use
- NOTE that https://mediaarea.net/NoTimeToWait5 is December 8-10, with in-person and virtual registration - a lot of us are attending
** workshop on improving Matroska, and how to improve FFV1.
** the workshops are on December 8, meeting 9/10.
Final dates for 2022 Cellar meetings have been approved by our AD and added to the datatracker
- 2022-01-25
- 2022-02-22
- 2022-03-29
- 2022-04-26
- 2022-05-24
- 2022-06-28
- 2022-08-23
- 2022-09-27
- 2022-10-25
- 2022-12-06
WG status update
- draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-17 was posted 2021-05-25, in ID Exists Expires Soon -18 will be a keep-alive submission
- draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
- draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists
Milestone review:
- Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've published FFV1. ACTION Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit a (small) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger issues, to publish as a draft.
- Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/tree/corrections-doc) - we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes before submitting anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know everything Matroska needs will be covered"
Discussion on the call
- ACTION: For Matroska, Spencer and Michael will review the IANA considerations, especially for deprecated assignments/non-assignments, and ask for ART area review
- move the security considerations before IANA section
Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below)
- Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list.
- No objections on the mailing list or on the call.
Making sure we have copyright issues straightened out for the FLAC specification
- Update from Michael on discussions with Josh Coalson and IETF Trust
- Continue with the current document, or start a new one?
Discussion on the call
- Martijn has a PR for new text, but we can use text from the previous document now that Josh has agreed that we have permission
- ACTION: Spencer and Michael: get list of authors correct.
- Martijn to add himself as an author and delete Michael Richardson
- We will continue to engage with Josh on whether he would like to be listed as an author or added as a contributor
- We should add the Xiph documentation as a informative reference
Matroska issues - Discussion on the call
- (above IANA Considerations review)
- We do have PRs we can merge now
- ACTION: please review pull requests: 115, 555
FLAC issues - Discussion on the call
- Discussed under copyright topic above
FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call
- No discussion on the call
- ACTION: -18 keepalive version will get reposted by Dave Rice
AOB?
- NoTimeToWait5 is sending updates to attendees that includes current information about potential CoViD-19 lockdowns and restrictions for vaccinated-only attendees, etc.