Ballot for charter-ietf-bess

Yes

Gunter Van de Velde
Jim Guichard
Ketan Talaulikar

No Objection

Deb Cooley
Mohamed Boucadair

No Record

Andy Newton
Erik Kline
Gorry Fairhurst
Mahesh Jethanandani
Mike Bishop
Orie Steele
Paul Wouters
Roman Danyliw
Éric Vyncke

  • Ready for external review (00-00)
  • Approve (00-05)
  • Ready for external review (01-00)

Summary: Has enough positions to pass.

Ballot question: "Is this charter ready for external review?"

Gunter Van de Velde
Yes
Jim Guichard
Yes
Ketan Talaulikar
Yes
Deb Cooley
No Objection
Comment (2025-06-22) Sent
Paragraph 2, bullet 2:  "Any contention in placement of the work will be resolved by the chairs and responsible Area Directors."  Has there been issues in the past? I see that there is a version of this in the previous charter.  It seems like an unusual statement, since that is the way it usually works?  Work that isn't in charter is resolved by either chairs or AD.  I guess if it happens often, then spelling it out in the charter makes it crystal clear.
[note:  I see Med calls this 'business as usual'.  I do agree, unless there have been issues in the past.]
Mohamed Boucadair
No Objection
Comment (2025-06-22) Sent
Thank you for updating the charter.

Please find some comments below. Comments marked as (*) are important to avoid overlapping with other groups. The last point is about a gentle request for consideration :-)
	
# VPN as the only supported service 

CURRENT:
  The BGP Enabled Services (BESS) working group is responsible for defining,
  specifying, and extending network services over a packet switched
  network (PSN) where the VPN signaling uses BGP. In particular, the working
  group will work on the following services:

This text implicitly assumes that VPN is the only supported service as implied by “VPN signaling uses BGP” part. 

I think I would prefer having an explicit statement here.

# Business as usual 

There are several statements that I think can be simply removed as this is about business as usual:

(1)
  Any contention in placement of the work will be
  resolved by the chairs and responsible Area Directors.

(2)
  these may be added to the working group charter subject to
  rechartering, and they will not be adopted in the working group until such
  rechartering.

# On data models (*)

CURRENT: e) Definition of YANG models for provisioning and operations

## VPN-related service and network data models (L2SM, L3SM, L2NM, L3SM, draft-ietf-opsawg-ac-lxsm-lxnm-glue, ietf-network-vpn-pm, etc.) are products of other WGs, not BESS. The plan for their maintenance is to hand those over to ONIONS.

I suggest that we indicate that the work in BESS will be specifically on device models.

## Many expired I-Ds on YANG

The WG adopted several drafts in the past (e.g., draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang, draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-yang, draft-ietf-bess-l2vpn-yang, draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang) but all these were expired. Does the WG plan to revive some of this work? Any plan how to make this part better :-)?

## Be consistent with 8407bis

OLD: e) Definition of YANG models …

NEW: e) Definition of YANG data models …

# nit: ”P” of BGP stands for “protocol”

OLD: the core BGP protocol, 

NEW: the core BGP specification, 

# Add MBONED to this list for multicast-related matters (*)

CURRENT:
  The WG will also liaise with other relevant WGs, including but not limited
  to MPLS, SPRING, 6man, NVO3, and BFD, as appropriate. 

Btw, please use a consistent form to list WGs: s/6man/6MAN.

# Lastly, an OPS matter

The WG produced many documents on EVPN that I find very useful. However, it is not always that easy to digest them. I wonder whether the WG considered developing some deployment recommendations or simply an architecture overview with the various EVPN specifications and how they fit together?

Cheers,
Med
Andy Newton
No Record
Erik Kline
No Record
Gorry Fairhurst
No Record
Mahesh Jethanandani
No Record
Mike Bishop
No Record
Orie Steele
No Record
Paul Wouters
No Record
Roman Danyliw
No Record
Éric Vyncke
No Record