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Date Rev. By Action
2023-03-03
00-07 Cindy Morgan Charter's group has been replaced
2023-03-03
00-07 Cindy Morgan WG was approved as Computing-Aware Traffic Steering (cats); see https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cats/about/
2023-03-03
00-07 Cindy Morgan Chartering effort abandoned
2023-03-03
00-07 Cindy Morgan Removed from agenda for telechat
2023-03-03
00-07 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2023-03-02
00-07 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-07.txt
2023-03-02
00-06 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-06.txt
2023-03-02
00-05 Andrew Alston [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Andrew Alston
2023-03-01
00-05 Roman Danyliw [Ballot comment]
Please move the milestones currently inline in the text to be milestones in the datatracker.
2023-03-01
00-05 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2023-03-01
00-05 Paul Wouters [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Paul Wouters
2023-03-01
00-05 Murray Kucherawy [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy
2023-02-28
00-05 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker
2023-02-28
00-05 Lars Eggert
[Ballot comment]
# GEN AD review of charter-ietf-can-00-05

CC @larseggert

## Comments

### Paragraph 0
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  Computing-Aware Networking (can)
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Are we renaming this …
[Ballot comment]
# GEN AD review of charter-ietf-can-00-05

CC @larseggert

## Comments

### Paragraph 0
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  Computing-Aware Networking (can)
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Are we renaming this WG?

### Paragraph 20
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  Milestones:
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Would be good to agree on standards levels for these milestones

## Nits

All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may choose to
address in some way - or ignore - as you see fit. Some were flagged by
automated tools (via https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool), so there
will likely be some false positives. There is no need to let me know what you
did with these suggestions.

### Typos

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- optimize how a network edge node steers traffic based on these metrics,
-                                                                      -
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- as appropriate to the service.
+ to the service.
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#### Paragraph 3
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- and transport of traffic from network edge to service instance. It also
-      ^ ^^^^^
+ and steering of traffic from network edge to service instance. It also
+    + ++ ^ ^
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## Notes

This review is in the ["IETF Comments" Markdown format][ICMF], You can use the
[`ietf-comments` tool][ICT] to automatically convert this review into
individual GitHub issues. Review generated by the [`ietf-reviewtool`][IRT].

[ICMF]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md
[ICT]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments
[IRT]: https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool
2023-02-28
00-05 Lars Eggert [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Lars Eggert
2023-02-27
00-05 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2023-02-23
00-05 Erik Kline [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline
2023-02-20
00-05 John Scudder [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for John Scudder
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2023-03-02 from 2023-02-16
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan Created "Approve" ballot
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan State changed to External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat) from Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal Steering Group/IAB Review)
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG new work message text was changed
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2023-02-17
00-05 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2023-02-17
00-05 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-05.txt
2023-02-16
00-04 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot comment]
thanks for addressing my concerns.
2023-02-16
00-04 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot Position Update] Position for Zaheduzzaman Sarker has been changed to No Objection from Block
2023-02-16
00-04 Zaheduzzaman Sarker
[Ballot block]
I have two easy to fix block comments which I believe needed to be discussed and would clarify the charter better if addressed …
[Ballot block]
I have two easy to fix block comments which I believe needed to be discussed and would clarify the charter better if addressed -

# it says -

  "Exposure of network and compute conditions to applications
is not in the scope of CAN. As part of its work, the CAN WG will seek
advice and expertise from the ART and TSV areas."

  I am confused, if the advice and expertise is for the exposure of the network and compute condition and which is out of the scope, then what would the advice for? This need to clarified.

# it says -

    "The CAN WG will initially focus on single domain models."

  Does this mean CAN will under this charter will eventually work on multi domain models? will there be a rechartering needed to work on multi domain models? This is going to impact the architecture I guess whether the solution is for single domain or multiple domains.
2023-02-16
00-04 Zaheduzzaman Sarker
[Ballot comment]
And one comment to clarify the service examples -

# can we change the service examples? it says - "for some services (for …
[Ballot comment]
And one comment to clarify the service examples -

# can we change the service examples? it says - "for some services (for example, VR/AR, intelligent
transportation)". I don't really know what the intelligent transportation service is, may be that is because my lack of knowledge, hence very hard to see what requirements it puts that requires compute awareness.  AR/VR as a technology is mostly deployed in the user devices now and the network assisted AR/VR application is kind of still in research, hence may not be best examples for the CAN work.
2023-02-16
00-04 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot Position Update] New position, Block, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker
2023-02-15
00-04 Éric Vyncke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke
2023-02-15
00-04 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2023-02-15
00-04 Murray Kucherawy [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy
2023-02-15
00-04 Andrew Alston [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Andrew Alston
2023-02-14
00-04 Martin Duke
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for addressing my BLOCK

s/The IETF has done past work on exposing network conditions to endpoints
(notably ALTO)/The IETF is working on …
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for addressing my BLOCK

s/The IETF has done past work on exposing network conditions to endpoints
(notably ALTO)/The IETF is working on exposing network conditions to endpoints
(notably ALTO)
2023-02-14
00-04 Martin Duke [Ballot Position Update] Position for Martin Duke has been changed to No Objection from Block
2023-02-14
00-04 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-04.txt
2023-02-14
00-03 Paul Wouters [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Paul Wouters
2023-02-14
00-03 Lars Eggert
[Ballot comment]
# GEN AD review of charter-ietf-can-00-03

CC @larseggert

## Comments

### Paragraph 21
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  Milestones:
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I assume all of these will …
[Ballot comment]
# GEN AD review of charter-ietf-can-00-03

CC @larseggert

## Comments

### Paragraph 21
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  Milestones:
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I assume all of these will be Informational?

## Notes

This review is in the ["IETF Comments" Markdown format][ICMF], You can use the
[`ietf-comments` tool][ICT] to automatically convert this review into
individual GitHub issues. Review generated by the [`ietf-reviewtool`][IRT].

[ICMF]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md
[ICT]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments
[IRT]: https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool
2023-02-14
00-03 Lars Eggert [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Lars Eggert
2023-02-13
00-03 Martin Duke [Ballot block]
Is cross-domain routing in scope, or is this charter limited to steering within a certain provider's network?
2023-02-13
00-03 Martin Duke
[Ballot comment]
s/The IETF has done past work on exposing network conditions to endpoints
(notably ALTO)/The IETF is working on exposing network conditions to endpoints …
[Ballot comment]
s/The IETF has done past work on exposing network conditions to endpoints
(notably ALTO)/The IETF is working on exposing network conditions to endpoints
(notably ALTO)
2023-02-13
00-03 Martin Duke [Ballot Position Update] New position, Block, has been recorded for Martin Duke
2023-02-13
00-03 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2023-02-12
00-03 Erik Kline [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline
2023-02-12
00-03 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-03.txt
2023-02-10
00-02 John Scudder [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for John Scudder
2023-02-10
00-02 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-02.txt
2023-02-09
00-01 Cindy Morgan Placed on agenda for telechat - 2023-02-16
2023-02-09
00-01 John Scudder WG action text was changed
2023-02-09
00-01 John Scudder WG review text was changed
2023-02-09
00-01 John Scudder WG review text was changed
2023-02-09
00-01 John Scudder Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2023-02-09
00-01 John Scudder Charter is relatively stable at this point, although expect at least one further update before the telechat.
2023-02-09
00-01 John Scudder State changed to Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal Steering Group/IAB Review) from Draft Charter
2023-02-08
00-01 John Scudder Initial review time expires 2023-02-16
2023-02-08
00-01 John Scudder State changed to Draft Charter from Not currently under review
2023-02-08
00-01 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-01.txt
2023-01-24
00-00 John Scudder New version available: charter-ietf-can-00-00.txt