DNS-SD Extensions

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Document Proposed charter Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG (dnssdext) Snapshot
Title DNS-SD Extensions
Last updated 2013-09-14
State Draft Charter Rechartering
WG State Proposed
IESG Responsible AD √Čric Vyncke
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dnssdext Draft Charter, rev -02

Group Nam:      Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery
Acronym:        dnssdext
Area:           Internet Area (int)
State:          Active

Chairs:         <TBD>
Area Director:  Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
Mailing List
Address:        dnssdext@ietf.org
To Subscribe:   dnssdext-request@ietf.org
Archive:        http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnssdext
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Jabber Chat
Room Address:   xmpp:dnssdext@jabber.ietf.org
Logs:           http://jabber.ietf.org/logs/dnssdext
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Currently, zero configuration networking protocols are generally used
to discover services within the scope of a single link. In particular,
the Bonjour protocols suite, comprising mDNS (RFC 6762) and DNS-SD
(RFC 6763), are widely used for discovery and resolution of services,
as well as names, on a single link.

The Bonjour protocol suite is commonly used in many scenarios,
including home networks, commercial and campus enterprise networks,
and may be of use in certain mesh networks. However, the zero
configuration multicast Bonjour protocols are constrained to
link-local scope, so can only be used to discover services on the same

In a typical current home network, which is commonly a single link,
users should experience the desired discovery behaviour, because all
devices share that link. However, in future multi-link home networks
(as envisaged by the homenet WG) and in routed campus or enterprise
networks, devices and thus users can only discover services on the
same links, which is a significant limitation. This has led to calls,
such as those by the Educause petition, to develop an appropriate
service discovery solution to span multiple links, or to perform
discovery across a wide area, not necessarily on directly connected
links, e.g., on links elsewhere on the same site, or links at a remote

In addition, the "Smart Energy Profile 2 Application Protocol
Standard", published by ZigBee Alliance and Homeplug Alliance
specifies the Bonjour protocols as its method of zero configuration
discovery. However, its use of wireless mesh multi-link subnets and
its use across traditional routed networks will require extensions to
the Bonjour protocols to allow operation across multiple links.

The scenarios in which multi-link service discovery is required may
be zero configuration environments, environments where administrative
configuration is supported, or a mixture of the two.

As demand for service discovery across wider area routed networks
grows, some vendors are beginning to ship their own early solutions. 
It is thus both timely and important that efforts to develop improved, 
scalable, autonomous service discovery solutions for routed networks 
are coordinated towards producing a single, standards-based solution.

The WG will consider the tradeoffs between reusing/extending existing
protocols, and developing entirely new ones. But it is highly
desirable that any new solution is backwardly compatible with existing
mDNS and DNS-SD deployments.  Any solution developed by the dnssdext
WG wil not conflict or interfere with the operation of other
zero-configuration service and naming protocols such as uPnP or LLMNR.
Integration with such protocols is out of scope for this WG.

The focus of the WG is to develop a solution for extended, scalable 
DNS-SD. This work is likely to highlight problems and challenges with 
naming protocols, as some level of coexistence will be required between 
local zero configuration name services and those forming part of the 
global DNS. It is important that these issues are captured and 
documented for further analysis; solving those problems is however not 
within the scope of this WG.

Working Group Description

To that end, the primary goals of the dnssdext WG are as follows:

1. To document a set of requirements for scalable, autonomous
   DNS-based service discovery in routed, multi-link networks in the
   following five scenarios:

   (A) Personal Area networks, e.g., one laptop and one printer.
       This is the simplest example of a service discovery network,
       and may or may not have external connectivity. 

   (B) Home networks, as envisaged by the homenet WG, consisting of 
       one or more exit routers, with one or more upstream providers 
       or networks, and an arbitrary internal topology with 
       heterogeneous media where routing is automatically configured. 
       The home network would typically be a single zero configuration 
       administrative domain with a relatively limited number of 

   (C) Wireless 'hotspot' networks, which may include wireless networks
       made available in public places, or temporary or permanent
       infrastructures targeted towards meeting or conference style
       events, e.g., as provided for IETF meetings. In such
       environments other devices may be more likely to be 'hostile'
       to the user.

   (D) Enterprise networks, consisting of larger routed networks, 
       with large numbers of devices, which may be deployments 
       spanning over multiple sites with multiple upstreams, and
       one more more administrative domains (depending on internal
       administrative delegation). The large majority of the 
       forwarding and security devices are configured. These may
       be commercial or academic networks, with differing levels 
       of administrative control over certain devices on the network,
       and BYOD devices commonplace in the amps scenario.

   (D) Mesh networks such as RPL/6LoWPAN, multi-link but single prefix
       networks, which may or may not have external connectivity.
       The topology may use technologies including 802.11 wireless, 
       HomePlug AV and GP, and ZigBee IP. 

   It is desirable that remote service discovery is supported, e.g., 
   a user being able to discover services in their home network while
   away from the network, and that co-resident services can be 
   discovered, e.g., a printer on a hotel network while the user is
   on a separately administered network at the same location.

   It is also desirable that multiple discovery scopes are supported,
   from the point of view of announcements and discovery, be the
   scope 'site', 'building' or 'room'.  A user for example may only
   be interested in devices in the same room.

2. To develop an improved, scalable solution for service discovery 
   that can operate in multi-link networks, where devices may be
   in neighbouring or non-neighbouring links, applicable to
   the scenarios above. The solution will consider tradeoffs between
   reusing/extending existing protocols and developing entirely new

   The solution should include documentation or definition of the
   interfaces that can be implemented, separately to transport of 
   the information.

3. To publish an Informational RFC that documents challenges and
   problems encountered in the coexistence of zero configuration and 
   global DNS name services in such multi-link networks, which should 
   include consideration of both the name resolution mechanism and 
   the namespace.

It is important that the dnssdext WG takes input from stakeholders in
the scenarios it is considering. For example, the homenet WG is
currently evaluating its own requirements for naming and service
discovery; it is up to the homenet WG as to whether it wishes to
recommend adoption of the solution developed in the dnssdext WG, but
coordination between the WGs is desirable.


The WG will produce three documents: an Informational RFC on the
requirements for service discovery protocols operating on potentially
non-neighbouring multi-link networks as described above; a Standards
Track RFC documenting an extended, scalable service discovery solution 
that is applicable to those scenarios; and an Informational RFC 
describing the problems arising when developing the extended SD solution 
and how it affects the integration of local zero configuration and global 
DNS name services.


Sep 2013 Formation of the WG
Oct 2013 Adopt requirements draft as WG document
Jan 2014 Submit requirements draft to the IESG as an Informational RFC
Mar 2014 Adopt wide-area service discovery solution draft as WG
Mar 2014 Adopt Informational document on the problems and challenges
         arising for zeroconf and unicast DNS name services
Sep 2014 Submit wide-area service discovery solution draft to the IESG
         as Standards Track RFC 
Sep 2014 Submit the zeroconf and unicast DNS "problems and challenges" 
         draft to the IESG as Informational.