Forwarding and Control Element Separation
charter-ietf-forces-04

[Ballot comment]
My apologies for not noticing this previously, and if it's been discussed, I didn't see it in the tracker ...

In this text:

In addition to the specific work items listed above, the working group will
allow discussions and review work of how to use ForCES to model topics of
interest to Network Function Virtualization, I2RS, or OpenFlow.

is "or OpenFlow" too specific? One answer could be "no" ...

[Ballot comment]
Since the changes in this charter are simply deltas to the current specs, it might also be nice if the WG did whatever work necessary (fix errata, delete unused bits, if any) to get the current specs to full Internet Standard.

[Ballot comment]
No objection to this, but a question:

Are the extensions (both to the model and the protocol) expected to create full replacements for the current specs, or are the current specs stable and these are simply additions to the protocol? I mostly wonder whether the current specs could be declared full Internet Standard at this point and the extensions move on from there, or if this is a recycle of the current specs.

[Ballot comment]

Two questions about this. ForCES security is currently dependent
on SCTP/IPsec (RFC5811).

I would love to know if that gets used and if folks are happy with
it. (To the extent they're ever happy with security gank:-) If they
are then great. If not, then perhaps more work is needed?

Also, I wondered if this re-charter might mean that the ForCES
protocol will in future be more likely to be used in situations
where security is more likely to be needed, but I couldn't figure
that out from the charter. Is that the case?

[Ballot comment]
The binding in the following sentence does not look right, suggest:

Old
The ForCES working group is now working on a set of additions to the model,
protocol, and libraries based on the experience gained from developing the
standards and from many efforts using this architecture.
New
Drawing on the experience gained from developing the
standards and from many efforts using this architecture,
the ForCES working group is now working on a set of additions to the model,
the protocol, and the libraries.
End

The text says "standards effort documents", surely this should be "Standards Track documents"?