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INtermediary-safe SIP session ID
charter-ietf-insipid-03

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Document history

Date Rev. By Action
2018-01-30
03 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Ben Campbell from Gonzalo Camarillo
2015-10-14
03 (System) Notify list changed from insipid-chairs@tools.ietf.org to (None)
2013-10-11
03 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-insipid-03.txt
2013-10-11
02-01 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from IESG review
2013-10-11
02-01 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2013-10-11
02-01 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2013-10-11
02-01 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2013-10-11
02-01 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2013-10-10
02-01 Cindy Morgan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Richard Barnes by Cindy Morgan
2013-10-10
02-01 Cindy Morgan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon by Cindy Morgan
2013-10-10
02-01 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2013-10-10
02-01 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2013-10-10
02-01 Stewart Bryant [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant
2013-10-10
02-01 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2013-10-10
02-01 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2013-10-10
02-01 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2013-10-10
02-01 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2013-10-10
02-01 Gonzalo Camarillo [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Gonzalo Camarillo
2013-10-10
02-01 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2013-10-10
02-01 Gonzalo Camarillo Created "Approve" ballot
2013-10-10
02-01 Gonzalo Camarillo State changed to IESG review from External review
2013-10-10
02-01 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2013-09-27
02-01 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2013-10-10 from 2013-09-26
2013-09-27
02-01 Cindy Morgan State changed to External review from Internal review
2013-09-27
02-01 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2013-09-27
02-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2013-09-27
02-01 Gonzalo Camarillo New version available: charter-ietf-insipid-02-01.txt
2013-09-26
02-00 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot comment]

I agree with Sean's and Adrian's comments. Making this not turn
into a long lived bit of personally identifying information should be
a …
[Ballot comment]

I agree with Sean's and Adrian's comments. Making this not turn
into a long lived bit of personally identifying information should be
a top level requirement.
2013-09-26
02-00 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2013-09-26
02-00 Stewart Bryant [Ballot comment]
I share Sean's concern, and wonder if we need to check IETF consensus on continuing to pursue work that seems to impact privacy?
2013-09-26
02-00 Stewart Bryant [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant
2013-09-26
02-00 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2013-09-26
02-00 Adrian Farrel
[Ballot comment]
Thank you for including the mention of privacy in the charter. There will be a clear trade-off between the objectives of this work …
[Ballot comment]
Thank you for including the mention of privacy in the charter. There will be a clear trade-off between the objectives of this work and the desire for user-privacy: what business, a user might ask, is it of a transit node to know who is calling or who they are calling?

I think it is probably enough that the charter places privacy in scope, but it should not come as a surprise to the WG if the IESG seated at the time they request publication gives a very hard look at all the privacy implications of their work.
2013-09-26
02-00 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2013-09-25
02-00 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2013-09-25
02-00 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2013-09-25
02-00 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2013-09-25
02-00 Barry Leiba
[Ballot comment]
The purpose of this rechartering is to add a second document to the insipid deliverables (my apology for how that sounds, but I …
[Ballot comment]
The purpose of this rechartering is to add a second document to the insipid deliverables (my apology for how that sounds, but I didn't pick the WG name).  With the addition of the second document, the grammar in the last paragraph has become fractured (the first sentence has a comma splice), and the paragraph has become long.  I strongly suggest splitting it this way:

  This group will focus on two documents:

  The first document [...etc...]

  The second document [...etc...]

Now, as to the wording of the description of the second document:

The first sentence reads very awkwardly to me, and I *think* I understand it.  May I suggest this rewording, assuming it's correct?:

NEW
  The second document will define an indicator that can be added to the
  SIP protocol to indicate that signalling should be logged.
END

You can then change "Such marking" in the following sentence to "The indicator".  If my revision is not correct, then the description of the document is even more unclear than I thought, so please reword it for clarity.
2013-09-25
02-00 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2013-09-25
02-00 Sean Turner
[Ballot comment]
"session tracking" sounds bad - is that tracking for billing or something else?  Maybe we should just pick another word or drop it …
[Ballot comment]
"session tracking" sounds bad - is that tracking for billing or something else?  Maybe we should just pick another word or drop it if it's sessions tracking for billing, troubleshooting, etc.
2013-09-25
02-00 Sean Turner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sean Turner
2013-09-25
02-00 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2013-09-23
02-00 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2013-09-12
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Gonzalo Camarillo
2013-09-11
02-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Specification of the new identifier sent to the IESG (PS)", due February 2013, from current group milestones
2013-09-11
02-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Requirements and use cases for new identifier sent to IESG (as informational)", due December 2012, from current group milestones
2013-09-11
02-00 Cindy Morgan Placed on agenda for telechat - 2013-09-26
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo WG action text was changed
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo WG review text was changed
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo State changed to Internal review from Informal IESG review
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo Notification list changed to insipid-chairs@tools.ietf.org
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo Responsible AD changed to Gonzalo Camarillo
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo We are rechartering the group to add a new deliverable: marking SIP sessions for logging.
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo State changed to Informal IESG review from Not currently under review
2013-09-11
02-00 Gonzalo Camarillo New version available: charter-ietf-insipid-02-00.txt