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charter-ietf-mls-01

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Date Rev. By Action
2022-03-23
01 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Paul Wouters from Benjamin Kaduk
2018-05-29
01 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-mls-01.txt
2018-05-29
00-03 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from External review
2018-05-29
00-03 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2018-05-29
00-03 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2018-05-29
00-03 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2018-05-29
00-03 Benjamin Kaduk New version available: charter-ietf-mls-00-03.txt
2018-05-24
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot comment]
I still need to tweak the language a little in response to comments received.
2018-05-24
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk
2018-05-24
00-02 Ignas Bagdonas [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ignas Bagdonas
2018-05-24
00-02 Martin Vigoureux [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux
2018-05-23
00-02 Terry Manderson [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Terry Manderson
2018-05-23
00-02 Suresh Krishnan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan
2018-05-23
00-02 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ben Campbell
2018-05-23
00-02 Adam Roach [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Adam Roach
2018-05-23
00-02 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2018-05-23
00-02 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2018-05-23
00-02 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov
2018-05-22
00-02 Warren Kumari [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Warren Kumari
2018-05-22
00-02 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2018-05-22
00-02 Eric Rescorla [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Eric Rescorla
2018-05-18
00-02 Spencer Dawkins
[Ballot comment]
I'm looking at "In developing this protocol, we will draw on lessons learned from several prior message-oriented security protocols", and I'm wondering whether …
[Ballot comment]
I'm looking at "In developing this protocol, we will draw on lessons learned from several prior message-oriented security protocols", and I'm wondering whether these lessons have already been written down, or if the working group plans to write them down. I don't see any mention of either an existing reference or a deliverable, so thought I would ask. Is a list of lessons learned something that would have value outside the work MLS would be chartered to do?

I saw Mirja's comment about naming drafts in the charter - that's actually a good thing to notice, because someone might argue that the working group isn't chartered to work on another approach, if the working group encounters problems with its initial direction.

One phrasing I see used, is something like

"The QUIC working group will provide a standards-track specification for a UDP-based, stream-multiplexing, encrypted transport protocol, based
on pre-standardization implementation and deployment experience, and generalizing the design described in draft-hamilton-quic-transport-protocol, draft-iyengar-quic-loss-recovery, draft-shade-quic-http2-mapping, and draft-thomson-quic-tls."

I also see charters that say something like "the working group will use draft-foo and draft-bar as a starting point".

-- not part of my ballot position, only curiosity --

I have an honest question (which will affect my ballot position in no way, so cluing me in privately would be a reasonable response).

I see people talking a lot more often about perfect forward secrecy than about

o Post-compromise security - Full compromise of a node at a
  point in time does not reveal future messages sent within the group

Is "post-compromise security" equally well understood in the community?
2018-05-18
00-02 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2018-05-18
00-02 Mirja Kühlewind
[Ballot comment]
Based on the feedback provided by Paul Wouters: What's the relationship to ORT?

Also a minor comment: Not sure if the drafts need …
[Ballot comment]
Based on the feedback provided by Paul Wouters: What's the relationship to ORT?

Also a minor comment: Not sure if the drafts need to be listed in the charter. This seems very unusal as there should still be an adoption call (after the wg has been formed).
2018-05-18
00-02 Mirja Kühlewind [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza Telechat date has been changed to 2018-05-24 from 2018-05-10
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza Created "Approve" ballot
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza State changed to External review from Internal review
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza WG new work message text was changed
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza WG review text was changed
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza WG review text was changed
2018-05-14
00-02 Amy Vezza WG review text was changed
2018-05-10
00-02 Ignas Bagdonas [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ignas Bagdonas
2018-05-10
00-02 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov
2018-05-10
00-02 Suresh Krishnan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan
2018-05-09
00-02 Ben Campbell [Ballot comment]
Should the first sentence be scoped to "messaging applications" or are we contemplating using this with other sorts of applications?
2018-05-09
00-02 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ben Campbell
2018-05-09
00-02 Terry Manderson [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Terry Manderson
2018-05-09
00-02 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2018-05-09
00-02 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2018-05-09
00-02 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2018-05-09
00-02 Martin Vigoureux [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux
2018-05-08
00-02 Adam Roach [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Adam Roach
2018-05-03
00-02 Eric Rescorla [Ballot comment]
I am heavily involved
2018-05-03
00-02 Eric Rescorla Ballot comment text updated for Eric Rescorla
2018-04-30
00-02 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk Added charter milestone "Submit message protection protocol to IESG as Proposed Standard", due September 2019
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk Added charter milestone "Submit key management protocol to IESG as Proposed Standard", due June 2019
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk Added charter milestone "Submit architecture document to IESG as Informational", due January 2019
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk Added charter milestone "Initial working group document adopted for message protection", due September 2018
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk Added charter milestone "Initial working group documents for architecture and key management", due May 2018
2018-04-28
00-02 Benjamin Kaduk New version available: charter-ietf-mls-00-02.txt
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk WG action text was changed
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk WG review text was changed
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk WG review text was changed
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk State changed to Internal review from Informal IESG review
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk Placed on agenda for telechat - 2018-05-10
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk Initial review time expires 2018-05-05
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk State changed to Informal IESG review from Not currently under review
2018-04-28
00-01 Benjamin Kaduk New version available: charter-ietf-mls-00-01.txt
2018-04-28
00-00 Benjamin Kaduk Notification list changed to rlb@ipv.sx
2018-04-28
00-00 Benjamin Kaduk New version available: charter-ietf-mls-00-00.txt