Stay Home Meet Occasionally Online
charter-ietf-shmoo-02

Yes

(Lars Eggert)

No Objection

Erik Kline
Murray Kucherawy
Roman Danyliw
Zaheduzzaman Sarker
(Alvaro Retana)
(Benjamin Kaduk)
(Martin Duke)
(Robert Wilton)

Note: This ballot was opened for revision 01-01 and is now closed.

Ballot question: "Do we approve of this charter?"

Erik Kline
No Objection
Murray Kucherawy
No Objection
Roman Danyliw
No Objection
Zaheduzzaman Sarker
No Objection
Comment (2022-02-17 for -01-01) Sent 
I agree with Ben's block, I think it should be 3rd item not 4th item that needs discussion on financial aspects.

I also think there might be confusion on where to draw the line between a mostly-online and hybrid meeting.
Lars Eggert Former IESG member
Yes
Yes (for -01-05) Not sent 

                            

                        
                    

                
            
        
            
                
            
                
            
                
            
                
            
                
                    

                        

                            Alvaro Retana Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
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                                    (2022-02-16 for -01-01)
                                
                                
                                    
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All the work items include a sentence about how they are expected to be fulfilled: "with the publication of one or more BCPs", for example.  There is no such indication for the second item.  Is there a reason for that?


Milestones should be included before approval.

                            

                        
                    

                
            
                
                    

                        

                            Benjamin Kaduk Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            (was Block)
                            No Objection
                            
                        

                    

                    

                        

                            

                                No Objection 
                                
                                    (2022-03-23 for -01-04)
                                
                                
                                    
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"Aside from fee structure," could perhaps be "Aside from the fee structure for remote participation",
but this version does resolve the internal inconsistency that had triggered my previous BLOCK.

                            

                        
                    

                
            
                
                    

                        

                            Martin Duke Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
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                            Robert Wilton Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
                            No Objection
                            
                        

                    

                    

                        

                            

                                No Objection 
                                
                                    (2022-02-15 for -01-01)
                                
                                
                                    
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I still find the naming/terminology about the different types of meetings to be more confusing that it needs to be:

Currently, the charter references 4 types of meetings: in-person, mostly-in-person, hybrid, fully-online.  I would at least align in-person and mostly-in-person to the same thing, since I believe that they are meant to be referring to the same thing.

It is also not intuitive to me why a mostly-in-person meeting isn't actually also a hybrid meeting.  I.e., calling these mostly-online rather than hybrid may help avoid confusion in the future over what a hybrid meeting represents.

Regards,
Rob