Transport Services
charter-ietf-taps-02
Yes
(Barry Leiba)
(Martin Stiemerling)
No Objection
(Alia Atlas)
(Brian Haberman)
(Jari Arkko)
(Ted Lemon)
Note: This ballot was opened for revision 00-00 and is now closed.
Ballot question: "Is this charter ready for external review?"
Barry Leiba Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
(for -00-00)
Unknown
Martin Stiemerling Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
(for -00-00)
Unknown
Spencer Dawkins Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
(2014-06-26 for -00-00)
Unknown
Dave Thaler provided feedback about including HTTP during internal review that I've shared with the mailing list, but it wasn't captured in the datatracker. It's at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/taps/current/msg00186.html.
Adrian Farrel Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-06-26 for -00-00)
Unknown
Is it really necessary to begin the charter with an adverb, and one that every non-native speaker will need to look up in a dictionary before trying to parse the sentence and work out to what it applies?
Alia Atlas Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -00-00)
Unknown
Alissa Cooper Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-06-23 for -00-00)
Unknown
I think this is ready for external review, but I have a question that I think should be addressed before this group gets chartered. There is no indication in the charter of the criteria that will be considered when selecting the subset of services that need to be supported by TAPS-capable endpoints. That seems to leave things quite open-ended and susceptible to arguments that most every service needs to be supported. If there is some existing notion that the subset will be tailored based on some criteria, it would be good to explain that in the charter.
Benoît Claise Former IESG member
(was Block)
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-07-17 for -00-00)
Unknown
I believe the charter text improved a lot. Thank you for addressing my BLOCK.
Brian Haberman Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -00-00)
Unknown
Jari Arkko Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -00-00)
Unknown
Joel Jaeggli Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-06-24 for -00-00)
Unknown
I am tempted to ask that it be made explicit that this be ipv6 only. I think that's an important concession for recognizing the ipv4 internet has substantially ossified to the point that stack inovation that is generally useful is confined being above transport. likewise interactions that involve transition technologies should be off the table.
Kathleen Moriarty Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-06-26 for -00-00)
Unknown
I'm interested to see Stephen's and Alissa's questions answered, but have nothing else to add.
Pete Resnick Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-06-25 for -00-00)
Unknown
[Fixing a typo] This could go for external review as-is. Some things to consider, either now or during external review: I am not as concerned as Benoit that his clarifications need to be made; they won't hurt, but I don't think they're strictly necessary. That said, I do think I'd like to see the word "applications" occur sometime in the work items and the section on coordination. :-) Can someone describe for me the difference between providing a set of "transport services" and providing a "session layer"? Does such a description need to go in here?
Stephen Farrell Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2014-06-26 for -00-00)
Unknown
Also along the lines of Alissa's comment, I'd be interested in whether and how the security properties of transports are to be handled here. I hope they are, but it'd be good for a final charter to mention that. One specific instance of that that'd be useful to consider could be tcpinc. That might lead to tricky timing, but OTOH, it'd be a pain if tcpinc were ignored here. Many applications actually fall back to (or just stick with) HTTP for the reasons stated here, I don't know if it makes sense to de-scope those applications here or not, but hope that that's discussed during chartering (maybe it has been already?). Stupidly, I find paragraphs and sentences that start with an adverb, comma are harder to read. Annoyingly, for me, this charter does that. Politely, I'd ask you to consider fixing that:-)
Ted Lemon Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -00-00)
Unknown