IETF conflict review for draft-alimi-decade
conflict-review-alimi-decade-00
Document history
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2013-09-30
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00 | Amy Vezza | The following approval message was sent From: The IESG To: "Nevil Brownlee" , draft-alimi-decade@tools.ietf.org Cc: The IESG , , Subject: Results of IETF-conflict review for … The following approval message was sent From: The IESG To: "Nevil Brownlee" , draft-alimi-decade@tools.ietf.org Cc: The IESG , , Subject: Results of IETF-conflict review for draft-alimi-decade-05 The IESG has completed a review of draft-alimi-decade-05 consistent with RFC5742. The IESG has no problem with the publication of 'DECoupled Application Data Enroute (DECADE)' as an Informational RFC. The IESG has concluded that there is no conflict between this document and IETF work. The IESG would also like the RFC-Editor to review the comments in the datatracker related to this document and determine whether or not they merit incorporation into the document. Comments may exist in both the ballot and the history log. The IESG review is documented at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/conflict-review-alimi-decade/ A URL of the reviewed Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-alimi-decade/ The process for such documents is described at http://www.rfc-editor.org/indsubs.html Thank you, The IESG Secretary |
2013-09-30
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00 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the conflict review response |
2013-09-30
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00 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2013-09-30
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00 | Amy Vezza | State changed to Approved No Problem - announcement sent from Approved No Problem - announcement to be sent |
2013-09-26
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00 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to Approved No Problem - announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation |
2013-09-26
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00 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2013-09-26
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00 | Gonzalo Camarillo | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gonzalo Camarillo |
2013-09-26
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00 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant |
2013-09-26
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00 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] - The decade wg was closed. If there were a way to nicely explain that here, that could be good, in case some … [Ballot comment] - The decade wg was closed. If there were a way to nicely explain that here, that could be good, in case some reader gets confused when they read this and see that there once was a decade wg. |
2013-09-26
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00 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2013-09-26
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00 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2013-09-26
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00 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot comment] I double-checked with François Le Faucheur. For the record, here is his message: Hello Benoit, We investigated the relationship between CDNI and the … [Ballot comment] I double-checked with François Le Faucheur. For the record, here is his message: Hello Benoit, We investigated the relationship between CDNI and the work of the former DECADE WG a while back. The conclusions are captured in Appendix B.2.2 of RFC6707 (CDNI Problem Statement). From a quick scan of draft-alimi-decade-04, it seems that the fundamentals of teh architecture/solutions have not changed so the earlier conclusions would still apply. So I would say this would be a 1. (in your 5 options below) , or possibly a 2. HTH Francois PS: If you are aware of significant/sensitive changes (that I may have missed from scanning the document) between draft-alimi-decade-04 and the earlier draft work of the DECADE WG, let me know and I can have a specific look on such changes. PPS: below is teh relevant text from RFC6707 B.2.2. DECADE WG The DECADE working group [DECADE-Charter] is addressing the problem of reducing traffic on the last-mile uplink, as well as backbone and transit links caused by peer-to-peer (P2P) streaming and file-sharing applications. It addresses the problem by enabling an application endpoint to make content available from an in-network storage service and by enabling other application endpoints to retrieve the content from there. Exchanging data through the in-network storage service in this manner, instead of through direct communication, provides significant gain where: o The network capacity/bandwidth from the in-network storage service to the application endpoint significantly exceeds the capacity/ bandwidth from application endpoint to application endpoint (e.g., because of an end-user uplink bottleneck); and o The content is to be accessed by multiple instances of application endpoints (e.g., as is typically the case for P2P applications). While, as is the case for any other data distribution application, the DECADE architecture and mechanisms could potentially be used for exchange of CDNI control plane information via an in-network storage service (as opposed to directly between the entities terminating the CDNI interfaces in the neighbor CDNs), we observe that: o CDNI would operate as a "Content Distribution Application" from the DECADE viewpoint (i.e., would operate on top of DECADE). o There do not seem to be obvious benefits in integrating the DECADE control plane responsible for signaling information relating to control of the in-network storage service itself, and the CDNI control plane responsible for application-specific CDNI interactions (such as exchange of CDNI Metadata, CDNI request redirection, and transfer of CDNI logging information). o There would typically be limited benefits in making use of a DECADE in-network storage service because the CDNI interfaces are expected to be terminated by a very small number of CDNI clients (if not one) in each CDN, and the CDNI clients are expected to benefit from high bandwidth/capacity when communicating directly to each other (at least as high as if they were communicating via an in-network storage server). The DECADE in-network storage architecture and mechanisms may theoretically be used for the acquisition of the content objects themselves between interconnected CDNs. It is not expected that this would have obvious benefits in typical situations where a content object is acquired only once from an Upstream CDN to a Downstream CDN (and then distributed as needed inside the Downstream CDN). But it might have benefits in some particular situations. Since the acquisition protocol between CDNs is outside the scope of the CDNI work, this question is left for further study. The DECADE in-network storage architecture and mechanisms may potentially also be used within a given CDN for the distribution of the content objects themselves among Surrogates of that CDN. Since the CDNI work does not concern itself with operation within a CDN, this question is left for further study. Therefore, the work of DECADE may be complementary to, but does not overlap with, the CDNI work described in this document. On 24 Sep 2013, at 12:47, Benoit Claise wrote: > Hi François, > > As explained in my voice mail, can you please review http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-alimi-decade-04, and let me know if there is any conflict with your CDNI work at the IETF. This draft will be discussed during the Thursday IESG telechat. > By conflict, I mean http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5742 section 3. The IESG has to select one of the 5 standard actions: > > 1. The IESG has concluded that there is no conflict between this > document and IETF work. > > 2. The IESG has concluded that this work is related to IETF work done > in WG , but this relationship does not prevent publishing. > > 3. The IESG has concluded that publication could potentially disrupt > the IETF work done in WG and recommends not publishing the > document at this time. > > 4. The IESG has concluded that this document violates IETF procedures > for and should therefore not be published without IETF review > and IESG approval. > > 5. The IESG has concluded that this document extends an IETF protocol > in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be > published without IETF review and IESG approval. > > Regards, Benoit > |
2013-09-26
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00 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise |
2013-09-25
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00 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon |
2013-09-25
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00 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel |
2013-09-25
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00 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Pete Resnick |
2013-09-25
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00 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2013-09-25
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00 | Sean Turner | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sean Turner |
2013-09-23
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00 | Brian Haberman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman |
2013-09-17
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00 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2013-09-10
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2013-09-10
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | Created "Approve" ballot |
2013-09-10
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | State changed to IESG Evaluation from AD Review |
2013-09-10
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | New version available: conflict-review-alimi-decade-00.txt |
2013-09-10
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | Telechat date has been changed to 2013-09-26 from 2013-09-12 |
2013-09-09
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00 | Amy Vezza | The draft draft-alimi-decade-04 is ready for publication from the Independent Stream. Please ask IESG to review it, as set out in RFC 5742. The … The draft draft-alimi-decade-04 is ready for publication from the Independent Stream. Please ask IESG to review it, as set out in RFC 5742. The following is some background for this draft, please forward it to IESG along with this request ... Its abstract says: "Content distribution applications, such as those those employing peer-to-peer (P2P) technologies, are widely used on the Internet and make up a large portion of the traffic in many networks. Often, however, content distribution applications use network resources in a counter-productive manner. One way to improve efficiency is to introduce storage capabilities within the network and enable cooperation between end-host and in-network content distribution mechanisms. This is the capability provided by a DECADE system, which is introduced in this document. DECADE enables applications to take advantage of in-network storage when distributing data objects as opposed to using solely end-to-end resources. This document presents the underlying principles and key functionalities of such a system and illustrates operation through a set of examples." It was reviewed for me by Carlos Bernardos and Martin Stiemerling, the authors worked with them to address the issues raised. Thanks, Nevil (ISE) |
2013-09-09
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | State changed to AD Review from Needs Shepherd |
2013-09-09
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00 | Martin Stiemerling | Shepherding AD changed to Martin Stiemerling |
2013-09-09
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00 | Amy Vezza | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2013-09-12 |
2013-09-09
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00 | Amy Vezza | IETF conflict review requested |