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Updated Use of the Expires Message Header Field
draft-billon-expires-09

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Document history

Date Rev. By Action
2024-03-01
09 (System) Document has expired
2024-02-29
09 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to Dead::AD Followup from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup
2023-05-11
09 (System) Removed all action holders (IESG state changed)
2023-05-11
09 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed
2023-05-11
09 (System) IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed
2023-05-11
09 John Levine New version available: draft-billon-expires-09.txt
2023-05-11
09 John Levine New version accepted (logged-in submitter: John Levine)
2023-05-11
09 John Levine Uploaded new revision
2023-05-10
08 Murray Kucherawy Changed action holders to John Levine, Benjamin BILLON
2023-05-10
08 (System) Changed action holders to Murray Kucherawy (IESG state changed)
2023-05-10
08 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for Writeup::Revised I-D Needed
2023-05-10
08 Murray Kucherawy
## Document History

1. Was the document considered in any WG, and if so, why was it not adopted as a
  work item there? …
## Document History

1. Was the document considered in any WG, and if so, why was it not adopted as a
  work item there?

The document was discussed on the ietf-822 list, which is the venue for discussions
related to email message formatting.  It does not fit the charter for any current
working group.

2. Was there controversy about particular points that caused the WG to not adopt
  the document?

N/A

3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If
  so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the
  responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this
  questionnaire is publicly available.)

There was strong feedback from two participants in particular during Last Call.  Their feedback has been addressed in the -09 revision.

4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of
  the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated
  plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere,
  either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere
  (where)?

Implementations have existed since RFC 2156 in 1998.  RFC 4021 indicates this field
is "not for general use", considering it only a header field used in X.400 message
gatewaying; however, several implementations do pay attention to it,
so it needs its own standards track document and registration.

## Additional Reviews

5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other
  IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit
  from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which
  reviews took place.

It was circulated in DISPATCH and the "ietf-822" lists, which is where most of
the email people live these days.  A lot of feedback was also present on the
last-call list.

6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria,
  such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

It will need to pass through the Designated Expert for header fields, but no
friction is expected.

7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module
  been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and
  formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is
  the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module
  comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified
  in [RFC 8342][5]?

N/A

8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the
  final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code,
  BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc.

There's one line of ABNF, and it looks good.

## Document Shepherd Checks

9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this
  document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready
  to be handed off to the responsible Area Director?

The document is satisfactory in terms of its simplicity and clarity.

10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their
    reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified
    and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent
    reviews?

No area-specific review items are relevant to this work.

11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best
    Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13],
    [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type
    of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent?

Standards Track; this involves interoperability between components, so Standards Track
is warranted.  The datatracker shows this correctly.

12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual
    property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To
    the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If
    not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links
    to publicly-available messages when applicable.

Yes, the authors have been reminded.

13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be
    listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page
    is greater than five, please provide a justification.

Yes.

14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits
    tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on
    authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates
    some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.)

There are none remaining as of the crafting of this shepherd writeup.

15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG
    Statement on Normative and Informative References][16].

The references are correct.

16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did
    the community have sufficient access to review any such normative
    references?

N/A

17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP
    97
][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so,
    list them.

No.

18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be
    submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state?
    If so, what is the plan for their completion?

No.

19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If
    so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs
    listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the
    introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document
    where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed.

No.

20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section,
    especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document.
    Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are
    associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm
    that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
    that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents,
    allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]).

The sole IANA action is complete.

21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for
    future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear?
    Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate.

No new registries are being created.

[1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/
[2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html
[3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html
[4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools
[5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html
[6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics
[7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79
[8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
[9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html
[10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97
[11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html
[12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5
[13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1
[14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2
[15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview
[16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
[17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/

2023-05-10
08 (System) Changed action holders to Benjamin BILLON, John Levine, Murray Kucherawy (IESG state changed)
2023-05-10
08 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for Writeup::AD Followup
2023-05-09
08 Murray Kucherawy Changed document external resources from: None to:

mailing_list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-822
2023-01-05
08 Tim Chown Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Tim Chown. Sent review to list.
2022-12-28
08 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup::AD Followup from Waiting for Writeup
2022-12-27
08 (System) Changed action holders to Murray Kucherawy (IESG state changed)
2022-12-27
08 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call
2022-12-24
08 Chris Lonvick Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Chris Lonvick. Sent review to list.
2022-12-16
08 Robert Sparks Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Robert Sparks. Sent review to list.
2022-12-14
08 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed
2022-12-14
08 David Dong
(Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-billon-expires-08. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let …
(Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-billon-expires-08. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know.

The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete.

In the Permanent Message Header Field Names registry on the Message Headers registry page located at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/message-headers/

the existing registration for

Header Field Name: expires
Protocol: mail
Status: standard

will have its Reference changed from [RFC4021] to [ RFC-to-be ].

The IANA Functions Operator understands that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document.

Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed.

For definitions of IANA review states, please see:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review

Thank you,

David Dong
IANA Services Specialist
2022-12-14
08 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Tim Chown
2022-12-14
08 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Tim Chown
2022-12-11
08 John Levine New version available: draft-billon-expires-08.txt
2022-12-11
08 John Levine New version accepted (logged-in submitter: John Levine)
2022-12-11
08 John Levine Uploaded new revision
2022-12-11
07 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Barry Leiba. Sent review to list.
2022-12-11
07 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Barry Leiba
2022-12-11
07 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Barry Leiba
2022-12-10
07 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Chris Lonvick
2022-12-10
07 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Chris Lonvick
2022-12-08
07 John Levine New version available: draft-billon-expires-07.txt
2022-12-08
07 John Levine New version accepted (logged-in submitter: John Levine)
2022-12-08
07 John Levine Uploaded new revision
2022-12-05
06 Chris Lonvick Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Chris Lonvick.
2022-12-05
06 Chris Lonvick Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Chris Lonvick. Sent review to list. Submission of review completed at an earlier date.
2022-12-04
06 Murray Kucherawy Removed all action holders
2022-12-04
06 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Chris Lonvick
2022-12-04
06 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Chris Lonvick
2022-12-01
06 Carlos Pignataro Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Carlos Pignataro. Sent review to list.
2022-12-01
06 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Robert Sparks
2022-12-01
06 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Robert Sparks
2022-11-29
06 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Carlos Pignataro
2022-11-29
06 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Carlos Pignataro
2022-11-29
06 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Barry Leiba. Sent review to list.
2022-11-29
06 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Barry Leiba
2022-11-29
06 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Barry Leiba
2022-11-29
06 Amy Vezza IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2022-11-29
06 Amy Vezza
The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2022-12-27):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC: draft-billon-expires@ietf.org, superuser@gmail.com
Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2022-12-27):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC: draft-billon-expires@ietf.org, superuser@gmail.com
Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Updated Use of the Expires Message Header Field) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the
following document: - 'Updated Use of the Expires Message Header Field'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2022-12-27. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  This document allows broader use of the Expires message header field
  for mail messages.  Message creators can then indicate when a message
  sent becomes valueless and can safely be deleted, while recipients
  would use the information to delete or ignore these valueless
  messages.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-billon-expires/



No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.




2022-11-29
06 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2022-11-29
06 Amy Vezza Last call announcement was changed
2022-11-27
06 Murray Kucherawy Last call was requested
2022-11-27
06 Murray Kucherawy Ballot approval text was generated
2022-11-27
06 Murray Kucherawy Ballot writeup was generated
2022-11-27
06 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup
2022-11-27
06 Murray Kucherawy Last call announcement was generated
2022-11-27
06 Murray Kucherawy
## Document History

1. Was the document considered in any WG, and if so, why was it not adopted as a
  work item there? …
## Document History

1. Was the document considered in any WG, and if so, why was it not adopted as a
  work item there?

The document was discussed on the ietf-822 list, which is the venue for discussions
related to email message formatting.  It does not fit the charter for any current
working group.

2. Was there controversy about particular points that caused the WG to not adopt
  the document?

N/A

3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If
  so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the
  responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this
  questionnaire is publicly available.)

No.

4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of
  the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated
  plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere,
  either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere
  (where)?

Implementations have existed since RFC 2156 in 1998.  RFC 4021 indicates this field
is "not for general use", considering it only a header field used in X.509 message
gatewaying; however, several implementations do pay attention to it,
so it needs its own standards track document and registration.

## Additional Reviews

5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other
  IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit
  from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which
  reviews took place.

It was circulated in DISPATCH and the "ietf-822" lists, which is where most of
the email people live these days.

6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria,
  such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

It will need to pass through the Designated Expert for header fields, but no
friction is expected.

7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module
  been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and
  formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is
  the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module
  comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified
  in [RFC 8342][5]?

N/A

8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the
  final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code,
  BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc.

There's one line of ABNF, and it looks good.

## Document Shepherd Checks

9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this
  document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready
  to be handed off to the responsible Area Director?

The document is satisfactory in terms of its simplicity and clarity.

10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their
    reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified
    and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent
    reviews?

No area-specific review items are relevant to this work.

11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best
    Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13],
    [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type
    of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent?

Standards Track; this involves interoperability between components, so Standards Track
is warranted.  The datatracker shows this correctly.

12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual
    property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To
    the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If
    not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links
    to publicly-available messages when applicable.

Yes, the authors have been reminded.

13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be
    listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page
    is greater than five, please provide a justification.

Yes.

14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits
    tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on
    authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates
    some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.)

There are none remaining as of the crafting of this shepherd writeup.

15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG
    Statement on Normative and Informative References][16].

The references are correct.

16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did
    the community have sufficient access to review any such normative
    references?

N/A

17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP
    97
][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so,
    list them.

No.

18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be
    submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state?
    If so, what is the plan for their completion?

No.

19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If
    so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs
    listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the
    introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document
    where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed.

No.

20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section,
    especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document.
    Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are
    associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm
    that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
    that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents,
    allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]).

The sole IANA action is complete.

21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for
    future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear?
    Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate.

No new registries are being created.

[1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/
[2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html
[3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html
[4]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools
[5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html
[6]: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/iesg/wiki/ExpertTopics
[7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79
[8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
[9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html
[10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97
[11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html
[12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5
[13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1
[14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2
[15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview
[16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
[17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/

2022-11-22
06 John Levine New version available: draft-billon-expires-06.txt
2022-11-22
06 John Levine New version accepted (logged-in submitter: John Levine)
2022-11-22
06 John Levine Uploaded new revision
2022-11-08
05 Murray Kucherawy Referred to the ietf-822 list for feedback before proceeding.
2022-11-08
05 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::AD Followup from AD Evaluation
2022-11-07
05 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested::AD Followup
2022-11-07
05 Murray Kucherawy Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2022-11-07
05 Murray Kucherawy IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication
2022-11-07
05 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to Publication Requested from AD is watching
2022-11-07
05 (System) Changed action holders to Murray Kucherawy (IESG state changed)
2022-11-07
05 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
2022-11-07
05 John Levine New version available: draft-billon-expires-05.txt
2022-11-07
05 John Levine New version accepted (logged-in submitter: John Levine)
2022-11-07
05 John Levine Uploaded new revision
2022-11-07
04 (System) Changed action holders to John Levine, Murray Kucherawy, Benjamin BILLON (IESG state changed)
2022-11-07
04 Murray Kucherawy IESG state changed to AD is watching::Revised I-D Needed from AD is watching
2022-11-07
04 (System) Changed action holders to Murray Kucherawy (IESG state changed)
2022-11-07
04 Murray Kucherawy Assigned to Applications and Real-Time Area
2022-11-07
04 Murray Kucherawy Responsible AD changed to Murray Kucherawy
2022-11-07
04 Murray Kucherawy Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard
2022-11-07
04 Murray Kucherawy Document is now in IESG state AD is watching
2022-11-07
04 Murray Kucherawy Stream changed to IETF from None
2022-11-07
04 John Levine New version available: draft-billon-expires-04.txt
2022-11-07
04 John Levine New version accepted (logged-in submitter: John Levine)
2022-11-07
04 John Levine Uploaded new revision
2022-10-16
03 (System) Document has expired
2022-04-14
03 Benjamin BILLON New version available: draft-billon-expires-03.txt
2022-04-14
03 (System) New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Benjamin BILLON)
2022-04-14
03 Benjamin BILLON Uploaded new revision
2022-03-20
02 Benjamin BILLON New version available: draft-billon-expires-02.txt
2022-03-20
02 (System) New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Benjamin BILLON)
2022-03-20
02 Benjamin BILLON Uploaded new revision
2022-03-11
01 Kirsty Paine Added to session: IETF-113: dispatch  Mon-1000
2022-02-28
01 Benjamin BILLON New version available: draft-billon-expires-01.txt
2022-02-28
01 (System) New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Benjamin BILLON)
2022-02-28
01 Benjamin BILLON Uploaded new revision
2021-12-14
00 Benjamin BILLON New version available: draft-billon-expires-00.txt
2021-12-14
00 (System) New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Benjamin BILLON)
2021-12-14
00 Benjamin BILLON Uploaded new revision