Ballot for draft-ietf-6man-addr-assign
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Summary: Has 2 DISCUSSes. Has enough positions to pass once DISCUSS positions are resolved.
I agree with Deb's comment (as a discuss) and with Med's discuss that we should resolve or take an action item for the issue listed in appendix A and then remove appendix A. It now feels like appendix A is a [TODO] item destined to be forgotten and unresolved.
# Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-6man-addr-assign-02 CC @evyncke Thank you for the work put into this document. Please find below one blocking DISCUSS points (easy to address), some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be appreciated even if only for my own education). Special thanks to Bob Hinden for the shepherd's write-up including the WG consensus *but it lacks* the justification of the intended status. Other thanks to Brian Haberman, the Internet directorate reviewer (at my request): https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-6man-addr-assign-02-intdir-telechat-haberman-2025-03-10/ (and I have read Brian's reply to Brian's question) I hope that this review helps to improve the document, Regards, -éric ## DISCUSS (blocking) As noted in https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/, a DISCUSS ballot is just a request to have a discussion on the following topics: ### Section 1 Easy to fix :-) RFC 9602 did update "IANA IPv6 *Special-Purpose* Address Registry" and not "Internet Protocol Version 6 Address Space". I.e., either remove the reference to RFC 9602 (also in section 2) or include the "special-purpose address registry" in this section and the abstract. OTOH the "special-purpose registry" is "IETF Review"... ### Sections 1 & 3 AFAIK the use of "legacy" only means that it is not coming out of an IETF WG but from the "legacy stream", it does not imply that it is not current, e.g., RFC 791 (IPv4) is also "legacy stream" (even if I wish that it is made historic :) ) I.e., why would RFC 1881 be treated differently than RFC 791 ?
## COMMENTS (non-blocking) ### "Internet Protocol Version 6 Address Space" I support Mohamed Boucadair's DISCUSS about the use of "Internet Protocol Version 6 Address Space" (the official name of the IANA registry). ### Title s/Assignment/Allocation/ ? This is the wording in the IANA registry and is also used in Section 1 ### Section 4 Please use a reference for the registry to avoid any abmbiguities. ### Appendix A While I agree that the problem described in this section is real, I wonder why this text appears in this document. If it should be fixed, then why not requesting the change ? Else, remove this section.
Hi Brian, David, all, Thank you for taking care of the DISCUSS and some of the comments [1]. Cheers, Med [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/vWqiq6eE6zzJH8gaYcrs454B5XM/
Thank you to Scott Kelly for his secdir review. His comment on Section 5 is repeated below to make it easier: "The security considerations section says only this: 'Carefully reviewed address allocation mechanisms are necessary for any form of address-based security.' I don't disagree with this, but I had 2 reactions: first, I expected this section to either state that this doc adds no new considerations over those in the doc(s) it updates (e.g. RFC 7249), or to state any new considerations. Second, the phrase 'address-based security' gave me pause. We don't recommend basing security on unauthenticated addresses, do we? I wonder if it would be better not to risk leaving the reader with the wrong impression. " I agree with his assessment, especially the confusion as to what 'address-based security' means. My recommendation would be to reference the security considerations in RFC 7249. Either delete the current sentence, or clarify its meaning. Appendix A: I also agree that the opportunity to clarify IANA registry names should be taken unless it causes interoperability issues.
I understand that this concise document enables a set of changes for the IANA procedures. IANA may be content, but it would be helpful for IANA to confirm what action, if any, they think is needed to consider the issues raised in Appendix A.
Many thanks for this write up. It is well written and a pleasure to read. Similar as Med mentioned I agree that the usage of the word "recently" does not age well.
Thanks for the work done on this document. I have one comment below that is provided using the idnits output for v02 of the document. 91 Occasionally, IPv6 address space allocations are performed outside 92 the scope of routine allocations to regional address registries. For <minor> I believe the usage of term RIR is more prevalent these days and this is also what is being used in the concerned IANA registry description. Suggest to update the same in this document. 93 example, recently a substantial allocation was requested by an IETF 94 document approved by the IESG [RFC9602]
Section 5, paragraph 0 > Carefully reviewed address allocation mechanisms are necessary for > any form of address-based security. Thanks to Scott Kelly for his SECDIR review. I do support his comment and that of Deb. It is not clear to me what it means to have "address-based security". Could some text be added to clarify that term?
This document makes sensible changes, but in some ways still reads like an argument to the working group that these changes are needed. At this point in the process, it's declaring the new state of things and explaining why the changes *are being* made. Remove things about "recently" / "currently" and stick to statements of fact rather than opinion. I would like to see Appendix A better incorporated into the text of the document -- IANA makes changes based on directives in appropriate documents. This "draw[s] attention to" an issue without actually directing IANA to do anything about it; that doesn't require an RFC. Either describe the motivation for the change in the body of the document and direct IANA to rename the registry in the IANA Considerations, or remove it and send them an e-mail if it's actually entirely in their control. (I presume they're already aware.) I also support Mohammed's DISCUSS about the registry name. Let's be precise, especially in a document saying we should have been more precise in the past.