IP Addressing Model in Ad Hoc Networks
draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-03
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2015-10-14
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03 | (System) | Notify list changed from autoconf-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model@ietf.org to (None) |
2012-08-22
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03 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Ralph Droms |
2010-09-10
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03 | Amy Vezza | [Note]: 'RFC 5889' added by Amy Vezza |
2010-09-10
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03 | Amy Vezza | State changed to RFC Published from RFC Ed Queue by Amy Vezza |
2010-09-07
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03 | (System) | RFC published |
2010-03-23
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03 | Cindy Morgan | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Cindy Morgan |
2010-03-23
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2010-03-23
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03 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2010-03-23
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03 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2010-03-23
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03 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2010-03-23
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03 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2010-03-22
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03 | Jari Arkko | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed by Jari Arkko |
2010-03-22
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-03.txt |
2010-03-15
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03 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed. Reviewer: Jeffrey Hutzelman. |
2010-03-12
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03 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2010-03-11 |
2010-03-11
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03 | Jari Arkko | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation by Jari Arkko |
2010-03-11
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03 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot comment] Expand DAD (end of section 6.2). For consistency, either use "DAD" in both 6.1 and 6.2, or in neither. --- The first paragraph … [Ballot comment] Expand DAD (end of section 6.2). For consistency, either use "DAD" in both 6.1 and 6.2, or in neither. --- The first paragraph of section doesn't accurately describe the applicability: The configuration proposed by this model is applicable to any router's IP interface. It specifies IP addresses and IP subnet prefixes to be configured on network interfaces. Perhaps "This model gives guidance about the autoconfiguration of IP addresses and the IP subnet prefixes as on-link on router's IP interfaces."?? --- I was OK with section 4 up to and including the principle about not configuring an interface with any knowledge of on-link prefixes. Then I got lost. While the following paragraph about L2 communication regardless of configuration of on-link prefixes is true, it's seems irrelevant because the principle advices against the configuration of on-link prefixes. The last paragraph may also be true, but appears out of place in a document about a network model in which nothing can be guaranteed about on-going L2 connectivity. --- Re-reading sectinos 6.1 and 6.2, I am pretty sure there is no fundamental difference in the ways in which this model can be applied to IPv6 and IPv4. For example, doesn't this observation apply to IPv4 as well as IPv6? o There is no mechanism to ensure that IPv6 link-local addresses are unique across multiple links, hence they can not be used to reliably identify routers. "routers" or "router interfaces" - which hints at something that might need clarification: IP addresses are used both as interface addresses and sometimes, by selecting one global address from those assigned to the interfaces, as an identifier for the entire router. Why does the model suggest no on-link prefixes for IPv6 and allow /32 on-link prefixes for IPv4? Why not /128s for IPv6 or, conversely, no prefixes for IPv4? --- (Previous DISCUSS) The document include RFC 2119 boilerplate but uses lower case requirements words throughout both normatively and non-normatively. I know this document comes from the autoconf working group, but as far as I can tell, none of the principles or rules are specific to autoconfiguration. The term "autoconfigure" is used only sporadically in the document. Is this document specifically about autoconfiguration or configuration in general? It would help to include some text explaining the scope of the document. |
2010-03-11
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03 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot discuss] The document include RFC 2119 boilerplate but uses lower case requirements words throughout both normatively and non-normatively. I know this document comes from … [Ballot discuss] The document include RFC 2119 boilerplate but uses lower case requirements words throughout both normatively and non-normatively. I know this document comes from the autoconf working group, but as far as I can tell, none of the principles or rules are specific to autoconfiguration. The term "autoconfigure" is used only sporadically in the document. Is this document specifically about autoconfiguration or configuration in general? It would help to include some text explaining the scope of the document. |
2010-03-11
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03 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ralph Droms has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Ralph Droms |
2010-03-10
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03 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot comment] Expand DAD (end of section 6.2). For consistency, either use "DAD" in both 6.1 and 6.2, or in neither. --- The first paragraph … [Ballot comment] Expand DAD (end of section 6.2). For consistency, either use "DAD" in both 6.1 and 6.2, or in neither. --- The first paragraph of section doesn't accurately describe the applicability: The configuration proposed by this model is applicable to any router's IP interface. It specifies IP addresses and IP subnet prefixes to be configured on network interfaces. Perhaps "This model gives guidance about the autoconfiguration of IP addresses and the IP subnet prefixes as on-link on router's IP interfaces."?? --- I was OK with section 4 up to and including the principle about not configuring an interface with any knowledge of on-link prefixes. Then I got lost. While the following paragraph about L2 communication regardless of configuration of on-link prefixes is true, it's seems irrelevant because the principle advices against the configuration of on-link prefixes. The last paragraph may also be true, but appears out of place in a document about a network model in which nothing can be guaranteed about on-going L2 connectivity. --- Re-reading sectinos 6.1 and 6.2, I am pretty sure there is no fundamental difference in the ways in which this model can be applied to IPv6 and IPv4. For example, doesn't this observation apply to IPv4 as well as IPv6? o There is no mechanism to ensure that IPv6 link-local addresses are unique across multiple links, hence they can not be used to reliably identify routers. "routers" or "router interfaces" - which hints at something that might need clarification: IP addresses are used both as interface addresses and sometimes, by selecting one global address from those assigned to the interfaces, as an identifier for the entire router. Why does the model suggest no on-link prefixes for IPv6 and allow /32 on-link prefixes for IPv4? Why not /128s for IPv6 or, conversely, no prefixes for IPv4? --- |
2010-03-10
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03 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot discuss] The document include RFC 2119 boilerplate but uses lower case requirements words throughout both normatively and non-normatively. I know this document comes from … [Ballot discuss] The document include RFC 2119 boilerplate but uses lower case requirements words throughout both normatively and non-normatively. I know this document comes from the autoconf working group, but as far as I can tell, none of the principles or rules are specific to autoconfiguration. The term "autoconfigure" is used only sporadically in the document. Is this document specifically about autoconfiguration or configuration in general? It would help to include some text explaining the scope of the document. |
2010-03-10
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03 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Ralph Droms |
2010-03-10
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03 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Cullen Jennings |
2010-03-10
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03 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Robert Sparks |
2010-03-10
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03 | Pasi Eronen | [Ballot comment] It seems the content of this document could be summarized "if you want to use a routing protocol that requires unique addresses (within … [Ballot comment] It seems the content of this document could be summarized "if you want to use a routing protocol that requires unique addresses (within the routing domain), link-local addresses are not sufficient (since they're unique only within a link)". I wonder if the document title should be more precise about this? Perhaps something like "Why Link-Local Addresses Are Not Sufficient For Ad Hoc Routers"? |
2010-03-10
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03 | Pasi Eronen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Pasi Eronen |
2010-03-10
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03 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ron Bonica |
2010-03-09
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03 | Russ Housley | [Ballot comment] The Gen-ART Review by Francis Dupont on 2010-02-27 included very minor editorial comments. Please consider them if an update to this … [Ballot comment] The Gen-ART Review by Francis Dupont on 2010-02-27 included very minor editorial comments. Please consider them if an update to this document is needed for any reason. |
2010-03-09
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03 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Russ Housley |
2010-03-09
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03 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot comment] > IP Addressing Model in Ad Hoc Networks Title doesn't fit the document too … [Ballot comment] > IP Addressing Model in Ad Hoc Networks Title doesn't fit the document too well - the document is not only about ad hoc networks, and it doesn't describe a general IP addressing model, just guidelines for addressing router interfaces. |
2010-03-09
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03 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lars Eggert |
2010-03-08
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03 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Alexey Melnikov |
2010-03-05
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03 | Jari Arkko | State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Jari Arkko |
2010-03-05
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03 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system |
2010-03-02
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03 | Amanda Baber | IANA comments: As described in the IANA Considerations section, we understand this document to have NO IANA Actions. |
2010-02-20
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03 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Jeffrey Hutzelman |
2010-02-20
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03 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Jeffrey Hutzelman |
2010-02-19
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03 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2010-02-19
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03 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2010-03-11 by Jari Arkko |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation by Jari Arkko |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | Last Call was requested by Jari Arkko |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | Ballot has been issued by Jari Arkko |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | Created "Approve" ballot |
2010-02-19
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03 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2010-02-19
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03 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2010-02-19
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03 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | The document looks good. I have sent it forward to IETF Last Call. |
2010-02-19
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03 | Jari Arkko | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Jari Arkko |
2010-02-17
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03 | Amy Vezza | PROTO writeup for draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-02.txt ================================================= (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document … PROTO writeup for draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-02.txt ================================================= (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Ryuji Wakikawa, AUTOCONF co-chair, is the document shepherd for this document, draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model, and believes that it is ready for publication. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The document has had adequate review. The document shepherd does not have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization, or XML? No. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please i include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. No. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There is a good consensus around this document, but not unanimity. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) There has been no threat of an appeal. The document discourages the use of Link Local addresses on MANET router interfaces, but does neither prohibit their use (nor does the document prohibit assignment hereof to such MANET router interfaces). The document explains the reasoning behind this recommendation: that as Link Local addresses can not be communicated beyond one IP hop, a protocol does not exist which can ensure that Link Local addresses are unique across the routing domain, and thus the Link Local addresses do not satisfy the most stringent of the criteria, set out in the document, for a MANET router interface configuration to be valid for all current MANET routing protocols. A few WG members have expressed discomfort with this. The above paragraph is also sent to the responsible AD in a separate email, for tracker-purposes. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/.) Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews? If the document does not already indicate its intended status at the top of the first page, please indicate the intended status here. IDNits returns: == You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License Notice from 12 Sep 2009 rather than the newer Notice from 28 Dec 2009. (See http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/) The document, otherwise, satisfies all ID nits. The intended status is INFORMATIONAL (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. The document has only normative references. There are no downward references. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document's IANA Considerations section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC2434]. If the document describes an Expert Review process, has the Document Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during IESG Evaluation? This document does not define any new registries or registrations; indeed, it does not have any IANA actions (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? Not applicable. (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document describes a model for configuring IP addresses and subnet prefixes on the interfaces of routers which connect to links with undetermined connectivity properties. While the considerations in this document are general, they are specifically written with the most stringent requirements of MANETs in mind; essentially, a router configured according to the principles set forth in this document will be able to support operation of a MANET routing protocol. Working Group Summary As indicated in 1.f, the recommendation in the document to not use Link Local addresses for operation over interfaces towards links with undetermined connectivity properties was not unanimous, and on this point, consensus was rough. Document Quality While the document does not specify a protocol, there are about a decade of experience with running MANETs in which routers have their interfaces configured according to the recommendations in this document. Personnel Ryuji Wakikawa is the document shepherd of this document. |
2010-02-17
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03 | Amy Vezza | Draft Added by Amy Vezza in state Publication Requested |
2010-02-17
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03 | Amy Vezza | [Note]: 'Ryuji Wakikawa (ryuji.wakikawa@gmail.com) is the document shepherd.' added by Amy Vezza |
2010-01-26
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-02.txt |
2009-12-08
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-01.txt |
2009-10-19
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-00.txt |