RTP Stream Pause and Resume
draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-10
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2020-01-21
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10 | (System) | Received changes through RFC Editor sync (added Verified Errata tag) |
2018-11-05
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10 | (System) | Received changes through RFC Editor sync (added Errata tag) |
2016-08-31
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10 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed. Reviewer: Menachem Dodge. |
2016-02-05
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10 | (System) | RFC published |
2016-02-02
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10 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48 |
2015-12-14
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10 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2015-11-25
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10 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT |
2015-10-14
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10 | (System) | Notify list changed from draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause@ietf.org, draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause.ad@ietf.org, jonathan@vidyo.com, draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause.shepherd@ietf.org, avtext-chairs@ietf.org to (None) |
2015-10-05
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2015-10-01
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from Waiting on Authors |
2015-09-30
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2015-09-30
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from On Hold |
2015-09-20
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to On Hold from In Progress |
2015-09-14
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10 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2015-09-14
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10 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2015-09-14
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10 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2015-09-11
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2015-09-11
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10 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2015-09-11
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10 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2015-09-11
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10 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2015-09-11
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10 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2015-09-11
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10 | Amy Vezza | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-09-11
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10 | Ben Campbell | Ballot approval text was generated |
2015-09-11
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10 | Magnus Westerlund | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-10.txt |
2015-09-10
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09 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ben Campbell has been changed to Yes from Discuss |
2015-09-03
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09 | Magnus Westerlund | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2015-09-03
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09 | Magnus Westerlund | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-09.txt |
2015-08-20
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08 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
2015-08-20
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08 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot discuss] This is just a process discuss: We need a designated expert for the registry impacted, and the resulting expert review, prior to approval. |
2015-08-20
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08 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ben Campbell has been changed to Discuss from Yes |
2015-08-20
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08 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2015-08-19
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08 | Ben Campbell | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2015-08-19
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08 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2015-08-19
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08 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2015-08-19
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08 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] I have a meta-question about why this "updates" 5104. It appears to be an extension to 5104, using normal extension mechanisms -- someone … [Ballot comment] I have a meta-question about why this "updates" 5104. It appears to be an extension to 5104, using normal extension mechanisms -- someone implementing 5104 and not intending to implement this would have no reason to look at this document, as far as I can tell. I don't see anything that describes a *change* to 5104 (though perhaps I've missed it). What's the reasoning behind specifying "updates"? |
2015-08-19
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08 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2015-08-19
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08 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] - 58 pages! There is quite a bit of repetition here but too late to change now. - I see there are 2 … [Ballot comment] - 58 pages! There is quite a bit of repetition here but too late to change now. - I see there are 2 IPR declarations, both with possible royalty/fee and neither that I can see actually specifying what patent (or other property) is involved despite both declarations being some years old. (And there was me thinking remote controls were almost older than me, but I guess what do I know and the USPTO must always be right;-) Anyway, can someone point me at where the working group said they were ok with this situation? (The shepherd write up says that happened so I hope it's not hard to get that pointer.) - Section 7: in a multiparty call, say participant#1 hits pause with PauseID = 0x0001, and stuff is resumed some time later, is participant#2 supposed to use a PauseID of 0x0002 subsequently? In other words does the SHALL there apply to everyone on the call or just to the participant who sent out the last PAUSE message? If the former, does that create a race condition? Or maybe that's a harmless race? I guess you could reduce the probability of a race by recommending that PauseID be randomly selected between last-PauseID-seen and last-PauseID-seen+(2^14) or something like that? (And apologies if all this is obvious to someone expert in RTP, I am not that person:-) |
2015-08-19
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08 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2015-08-19
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08 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2015-08-19
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08 | Terry Manderson | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Terry Manderson |
2015-08-19
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08 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2015-08-18
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08 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot comment] This draft was really easy for me to read (with some background in RTP/RTCP, but I'm no expert on the topic). Thank you … [Ballot comment] This draft was really easy for me to read (with some background in RTP/RTCP, but I'm no expert on the topic). Thank you for the work on it - the results show. I have some questions, but nothing is a show-stopper. In this text: 3.3. RTP Mixer to Media Sender in Point-to-Multipoint In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and special care must be taken as not to pause a stream that is still wanted by some receivers. I'm assuming that the Mixer is taking special care, but this is passive enough that I'm filling in blanks. If you like passive voice, perhaps something like In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and special care must be taken by the Mixer so as not to pause a stream that is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ still wanted by some receivers. would be easier to parse. If you can do active voice, perhaps In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and the Mixer must take special care so as not to pause a stream that is still ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wanted by some receivers. In this text: 8. Message Details Any references to PAUSE, PAUSED, RESUME and REFUSED in this section SHALL be taken to apply to the extent possible also when TMMBR/TMMBN are used (Section 5.6) for this functionality. TMMBR/TMMBN MAY be ^^^ used instead of the messages defined in this specification when the effective topology is point-to-point. If either sender or receiver learns that the topology is not point-to-point, TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume functionality. If the messages defined in this specification are supported in addition to TMMBR/TMMBN by all involved parties, pause/resume signaling MUST use messages from this specification. If the topology is not point-to-point and the messages defined in this specification are not supported, pause/ resume functionality with TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used. All of this makes sense to me, except that I'm not understanding why TMMBR/TMMBN is a MAY. There's a lot of text that says you really need to use the messages from this specification in this case, and in that case, and ... but here, you MAY do something else. I understand that TMMBR/TMMBN works in a point-to-point topology, but is there a reason to prefer TMMBR/TMMBN in that topology? If so, it would probably be good to explain why. And as I read futher, I see this, in section 9: Note: When TMMBR 0 / TMMBN 0 are used to implement pause and resume functionality (with the restrictions described in this specification), signaling rtcp-fb attribute with ccm tmmbr parameter is sufficient and no further signaling is necessary. There is however no guarantee that TMMBR/TMMBN implementations ^^^^^^^^^^^^ pre-dating this specification work exactly as described here when used with a bitrate value of 0. and that really makes me wonder why this specification is also describing TMMBR/TMMBN. I'm sure there's a good reason, but can you understand my confusion? Finally, I see this, in section 9.1, If both "pause" and "tmmbr" are present in the offer, both MAY be included also in the answer, in which case TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume purposes (with a bitrate value of 0), to avoid signaling ambiguity. and in section 9.2, If both "pause" and "tmmbr" are present in the SDP, TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume purposes (with a bitrate value of 0), to avoid signaling ambiguity. I'm now wondering if the description of TMMBR/TMMBN in this specification just for interworking with older implementations that don't support PAUSE/RESUME but figured out how to get a similar effect with TMMBR/TMMBN? I'm guessing, of course :-) In this text: 8.5. Transmission Rules o PAUSE SHOULD use Early or Immediate timing, except for retransmissions that SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I understand this one. o The first transmission of PAUSED for each (non-wrapped) PauseID SHOULD be sent with Immediate or Early timing, while subsequent PAUSED for that PauseID SHOULD use Regular timing. Unsolicited PAUSED (sent when entering Local Paused State (Section 6.4)) SHOULD always use Immediate or Early timing, until PAUSED for that PauseID is considered delivered at least once to all receivers of the paused RTP stream, after which it SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I'm wondering why these are SHOULDs. Are they MUSTs except that some implementations don't do it, or recommendations but nothing breaks if you don't do them, or something else? o RESUME SHOULD always use Immediate or Early timing. ^ I wonder why this is SHOULD. Is there any guidance you can provide about why RESUME would use Regular timing? o The first transmission of REFUSED for each (non-wrapped) PauseID SHOULD be sent with Immediate or Early timing, while subsequent REFUSED for that PauseID SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I am, of course, wondering about the corresponding SHOULDs for REFUSED. In this text: 9. Signaling When signaling a config value other than 1, an implementation MUST ignore non-supported messages on reception, and MAY omit sending non- supported messages. is this saying that an implementation might send non-supported messages? I'm confused here. |
2015-08-18
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08 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot comment text updated for Spencer Dawkins |
2015-08-18
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08 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot comment] This draft was really easy for me to read (with some background in RTP/RTCP, but I'm no expert on the topic). Thank you … [Ballot comment] This draft was really easy for me to read (with some background in RTP/RTCP, but I'm no expert on the topic). Thank you for the work on it - the results show. I have some questions, but nothing is a show-stopper. In this text: 3.3. RTP Mixer to Media Sender in Point-to-Multipoint In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and special care must be taken as not to pause a stream that is still wanted by some receivers. I'm assuming that the Mixer is taking special care, but this is passive enough that I'm filling in blanks. If you like passive voice, perhaps something like In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and special care must be taken by the Mixer so as not to pause a stream that is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ still wanted by some receivers. would be easier to parse. If you can do active voice, perhaps In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and the Mixer ^^^^^^^^^ must take special care so as not to pause a stream that is still ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wanted by some receivers. In this text: 8. Message Details Any references to PAUSE, PAUSED, RESUME and REFUSED in this section SHALL be taken to apply to the extent possible also when TMMBR/TMMBN are used (Section 5.6) for this functionality. TMMBR/TMMBN MAY be ^^^ used instead of the messages defined in this specification when the effective topology is point-to-point. If either sender or receiver learns that the topology is not point-to-point, TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume functionality. If the messages defined in this specification are supported in addition to TMMBR/TMMBN by all involved parties, pause/resume signaling MUST use messages from this specification. If the topology is not point-to-point and the messages defined in this specification are not supported, pause/ resume functionality with TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used. All of this makes sense to me, except that I'm not understanding why TMMBR/TMMBN is a MAY. There's a lot of text that says you really need to use the messages from this specification in this case, and in that case, and ... but here, you MAY do something else. I understand that TMMBR/TMMBN works in a point-to-point topology, but is there a reason to prefer TMMBR/TMMBN in that topology? If so, it would probably be good to explain why. And as I read futher, I see this, in section 9: Note: When TMMBR 0 / TMMBN 0 are used to implement pause and resume functionality (with the restrictions described in this specification), signaling rtcp-fb attribute with ccm tmmbr parameter is sufficient and no further signaling is necessary. There is however no guarantee that TMMBR/TMMBN implementations ^^^^^^^^^^^^ pre-dating this specification work exactly as described here when used with a bitrate value of 0. and that really makes me wonder why this specification is also describing TMMBR/TMMBN. I'm sure there's a good reason, but can you understand my confusion? Finally, I see this, in section 9.1, If both "pause" and "tmmbr" are present in the offer, both MAY be included also in the answer, in which case TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume purposes (with a bitrate value of 0), to avoid signaling ambiguity. and in section 9.2, If both "pause" and "tmmbr" are present in the SDP, TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume purposes (with a bitrate value of 0), to avoid signaling ambiguity. I'm now wondering if the description of TMMBR/TMMBN in this specification just for interworking with older implementations that don't support PAUSE/RESUME but figured out how to get a similar effect with TMMBR/TMMBN? I'm guessing, of course :-) In this text: 8.5. Transmission Rules o PAUSE SHOULD use Early or Immediate timing, except for retransmissions that SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I understand this one. o The first transmission of PAUSED for each (non-wrapped) PauseID SHOULD be sent with Immediate or Early timing, while subsequent PAUSED for that PauseID SHOULD use Regular timing. Unsolicited PAUSED (sent when entering Local Paused State (Section 6.4)) SHOULD always use Immediate or Early timing, until PAUSED for that PauseID is considered delivered at least once to all receivers of the paused RTP stream, after which it SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I'm wondering why these are SHOULDs. Are they MUSTs except that some implementations don't do it, or recommendations but nothing breaks if you don't do them, or something else? o RESUME SHOULD always use Immediate or Early timing. ^ I wonder why this is SHOULD. Is there any guidance you can provide about why RESUME would use Regular timing? o The first transmission of REFUSED for each (non-wrapped) PauseID SHOULD be sent with Immediate or Early timing, while subsequent REFUSED for that PauseID SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I am, of course, wondering about the corresponding SHOULDs for REFUSED. In this text: 9. Signaling When signaling a config value other than 1, an implementation MUST ignore non-supported messages on reception, and MAY omit sending non- supported messages. is this saying that an implementation might send non-supported messages? I'm confused here. |
2015-08-18
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08 | Spencer Dawkins | Ballot comment text updated for Spencer Dawkins |
2015-08-18
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08 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot comment] This draft was really easy for me to read (with some background in RTP/RTCP, but I'm no expert on the topic). Thank you … [Ballot comment] This draft was really easy for me to read (with some background in RTP/RTCP, but I'm no expert on the topic). Thank you for the work on it - the results show. I have some questions, but nothing is a show-stopper. In this text: 3.3. RTP Mixer to Media Sender in Point-to-Multipoint In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and special care must be taken as not to pause a stream that is still wanted by some receivers. I'm assuming that the Mixer is taking special care, but this is passive enough that I'm filling in blanks. If you like passive voice, perhaps something like In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and special care must be taken by the Mixer so as not to pause a stream that is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ still wanted by some receivers. would be easier to parse. If you can do active voice, perhaps In this use case there are several receivers of a stream and the Mixer ^^^^^^^^^ must take special care so as not to pause a stream that is still wanted by ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ some receivers. In this text: 8. Message Details Any references to PAUSE, PAUSED, RESUME and REFUSED in this section SHALL be taken to apply to the extent possible also when TMMBR/TMMBN are used (Section 5.6) for this functionality. TMMBR/TMMBN MAY be ^^^ used instead of the messages defined in this specification when the effective topology is point-to-point. If either sender or receiver learns that the topology is not point-to-point, TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume functionality. If the messages defined in this specification are supported in addition to TMMBR/TMMBN by all involved parties, pause/resume signaling MUST use messages from this specification. If the topology is not point-to-point and the messages defined in this specification are not supported, pause/ resume functionality with TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used. All of this makes sense to me, except that I'm not understanding why TMMBR/TMMBN is a MAY. There's a lot of text that says you really need to use the messages from this specification in this case, and in that case, and ... but here, you MAY do something else. I understand that TMMBR/TMMBN works in a point-to-point topology, but is there a reason to prefer TMMBR/TMMBN in that topology? If so, it would probably be good to explain why. And as I read futher, I see this, in section 9: Note: When TMMBR 0 / TMMBN 0 are used to implement pause and resume functionality (with the restrictions described in this specification), signaling rtcp-fb attribute with ccm tmmbr parameter is sufficient and no further signaling is necessary. There is however no guarantee that TMMBR/TMMBN implementations ^^^^^^^^^^^^ pre-dating this specification work exactly as described here when used with a bitrate value of 0. and that really makes me wonder why this specification is also describing TMMBR/TMMBN. I'm sure there's a good reason, but can you understand my confusion? Finally, I see this, in section 9.1, If both "pause" and "tmmbr" are present in the offer, both MAY be included also in the answer, in which case TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume purposes (with a bitrate value of 0), to avoid signaling ambiguity. and in section 9.2, If both "pause" and "tmmbr" are present in the SDP, TMMBR/TMMBN MUST NOT be used for pause/resume purposes (with a bitrate value of 0), to avoid signaling ambiguity. I'm now wondering if the description of TMMBR/TMMBN in this specification just for interworking with older implementations that don't support PAUSE/RESUME but figured out how to get a similar effect with TMMBR/TMMBN? I'm guessing, of course :-) In this text: 8.5. Transmission Rules o PAUSE SHOULD use Early or Immediate timing, except for retransmissions that SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I understand this one. o The first transmission of PAUSED for each (non-wrapped) PauseID SHOULD be sent with Immediate or Early timing, while subsequent PAUSED for that PauseID SHOULD use Regular timing. Unsolicited PAUSED (sent when entering Local Paused State (Section 6.4)) SHOULD always use Immediate or Early timing, until PAUSED for that PauseID is considered delivered at least once to all receivers of the paused RTP stream, after which it SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I'm wondering why these are SHOULDs. Are they MUSTs except that some implementations don't do it, or recommendations that don't break if you don't do them, or something else? o RESUME SHOULD always use Immediate or Early timing. ^ I wonder why this is SHOULD. Is there any guidance you can provide about why RESUME would use Regular timing? o The first transmission of REFUSED for each (non-wrapped) PauseID SHOULD be sent with Immediate or Early timing, while subsequent REFUSED for that PauseID SHOULD use Regular timing. ^ I am, of course, wondering about the corresponding SHOULDs for REFUSED. In this text: 9. Signaling When signaling a config value other than 1, an implementation MUST ignore non-supported messages on reception, and MAY omit sending non- supported messages. is this saying that an implementation might send non-supported messages? I'm confused here. |
2015-08-18
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08 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2015-08-18
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08 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot comment] The SecDir review brought up a couple of attack types and at least the first should be mentioned in the security considerations section, … [Ballot comment] The SecDir review brought up a couple of attack types and at least the first should be mentioned in the security considerations section, replay protection. For the second, does it apply? https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg05921.html Thank you. |
2015-08-18
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08 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty |
2015-08-18
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08 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2015-08-18
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08 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas |
2015-08-15
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08 | Meral Shirazipour | Request for Telechat review by GENART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour. |
2015-08-14
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08 | Brian Haberman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman |
2015-08-13
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08 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2015-08-13
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08 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2015-08-20 |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | Ballot has been issued |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ben Campbell |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | Created "Approve" ballot |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-08-13
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08 | Ben Campbell | Ballot approval text was generated |
2015-08-13
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08 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: David Mandelberg. |
2015-08-13
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08 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2015-08-12
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08 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
2015-08-12
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08 | Amanda Baber | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-08. Authors, please review the summary below and let us know if our understanding is incorrect. IANA's … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-08. Authors, please review the summary below and let us know if our understanding is incorrect. IANA's reviewer has the following comments: NOTE: Before publication, the URLs in the IANA Considerations should be shortened to "http://www.iana.org/assignments/rtp-parameters" and "http://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters". ACTION 1: upon approval of this document, if the designated expert to be contacted by IANA approves the assignment, IANA will register the following value in the "FMT Values for RTPFB Payload Types" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/rtp-parameters: Value: TBA1 Name: PAUSE-RESUME Long Name: Media Pause / Resume Reference: this document ACTION 2: upon approval of this document, if the designated expert to be contacted by IANA approves the assignment, IANA will register the following in the "Codec Control Messages" registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters: Value Name: pause Long Name: Media Pause / Resume Usable with: ccm Reference: This RFC NOTE: this registry doesn't have a designated expert yet. We've submitted a management item requesting designation. |
2015-08-06
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08 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to David Mandelberg |
2015-08-06
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08 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to David Mandelberg |
2015-08-03
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08 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Menachem Dodge |
2015-08-03
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08 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Menachem Dodge |
2015-07-30
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08 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2015-07-30
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08 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2015-07-30
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08 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2015-07-30
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08 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (RTP Stream Pause and Resume) … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (RTP Stream Pause and Resume) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Audio/Video Transport Extensions WG (avtext) to consider the following document: - 'RTP Stream Pause and Resume' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-08-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract With the increased popularity of real-time multimedia applications, it is desirable to provide good control of resource usage, and users also demand more control over communication sessions. This document describes how a receiver in a multimedia conversation can pause and resume incoming data from a sender by sending real-time feedback messages when using Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) for real time data transport. This document extends the Codec Control Messages (CCM) RTCP feedback package by explicitly allowing and describing specific use of existing CCM messages and adding a group of new real- time feedback messages used to pause and resume RTP data streams. This document updates RFC 5104. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1641/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1935/ |
2015-07-30
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08 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2015-07-30
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08 | Ben Campbell | Last call was requested |
2015-07-30
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08 | Ben Campbell | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation |
2015-07-30
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08 | Ben Campbell | Ballot approval text was generated |
2015-07-30
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08 | Ben Campbell | Last call announcement was generated |
2015-07-29
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08 | Ben Campbell | Last call announcement was generated |
2015-07-03
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08 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-08.txt |
2015-06-16
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07 | Ben Campbell | Notification list changed to draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause@ietf.org, draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause.ad@ietf.org, jonathan@vidyo.com, draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause.shepherd@ietf.org, avtext-chairs@ietf.org from "Jonathan Lennox" <jonathan@vidyo.com> |
2015-06-16
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07 | Ben Campbell | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2015-06-11
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07 | Ben Campbell | Ballot writeup was generated |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? A Proposed Standard RFC is being requested. This document defines normative behavior for RTP feedback messages, and updates RFC 5104, which is a Proposed Standard. The title page indicates "Standards Track". (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. This document provides a mechanism to use existing RTCP Feedback Codec Control Messages (RFC 5104), as well as a group of new messages, to pause and resume RTP media streams. The document defines two separate mechanism for pausing and resuming RTP streams. One mechanism codifies existing practice of how to use RFC 5104 messages to pause and resume streams, but is only applicable to a subset of possible RTP topologies. The other is a new mechanism and is generally applicable. Guidance is provided as to when one or the other mechanism should be used. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? The two protocol mechanisms were the result of two separate proposals as to how to solve the requirement; once the proposals were merged into a single document, there were no objections to WG consensus. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? There are existing deployed implementations of the RFC 5104-based mechanisms to pause and resume RTP streams. An SDP directorate review has been requested for the document's usage of SDP. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? The Document Shepherd is Jonathan Lennox; the Responsible Area Director is Ben Campbell. (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. The document shepherd read the submitted version of the document fully, as well as reviewing several earlier versions of the document. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? This document got good review by multiple members of the AVText working group and all comments were addressed. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. This document got good review by multiple people from AVText and all comments were addressed. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. No concerns. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. All authors have confirmed that they know of no IPR disclosures required beyond those already disclosed (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. Two IPR declarations have been made that reference this document. The Working Group considered the declarations and decided they were acceptable. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? While only a relatively small number of people have commented on the draft, this is not atypical for the AVTEXT working group, and most of the group's most active (and expert) participants have indicated agreement with the document. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-07.txt Though the document updates RFC 5104 (which is pre-BCP78), it does not incorporate any text from it. All the text in this document was submitted under the terms of BCP78. Updated versions of some of the references have been published; these can be updated as normal for a post IETF-LC version of the document. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. Not applicable. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. This document updates RFC 5104. This is stated in its header and abstract. (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). The document makes two IANA registrations (Section 11), which are described correctly. No new registries are defined. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. This document does not define any new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. The ABNF for the SDP extensions will be reviewed as part of the SDP Directorate review. |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | Responsible AD changed to Ben Campbell |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Document |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | Changed document writeup |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | Notification list changed to "Jonathan Lennox" <jonathan@vidyo.com> |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | Document shepherd changed to Jonathan Lennox |
2015-06-08
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07 | Jonathan Lennox | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2015-03-09
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07 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-07.txt |
2015-02-11
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06 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-06.txt |
2014-10-27
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05 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-05.txt |
2014-10-14
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04 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-04.txt |
2014-10-14
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03 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-03.txt |
2014-07-24
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02 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-02.txt |
2014-07-04
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01 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-01.txt |
2014-06-05
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00 | Jonathan Lennox | This document now replaces draft-westerlund-avtext-rtp-stream-pause instead of None |
2014-05-16
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00 | Bo Burman | New version available: draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-stream-pause-00.txt |