Device Reset Characterization
draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-06
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2018-12-20
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06 | (System) | Received changes through RFC Editor sync (changed abstract to 'An operational forwarding device may need to be restarted (automatically or manually) for a variety of … Received changes through RFC Editor sync (changed abstract to 'An operational forwarding device may need to be restarted (automatically or manually) for a variety of reasons, an event called a "reset" in this document. Since there may be an interruption in the forwarding operation during a reset, it is useful to know how long a device takes to resume the forwarding operation. This document specifies a methodology for characterizing reset (and reset time) during benchmarking of forwarding devices and provides clarity and consistency in reset test procedures beyond what is specified in RFC 2544. Therefore, it updates RFC 2544. This document also defines the benchmarking term "reset time" and, only in this, updates RFC 1242. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes.') |
2015-10-14
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06 | (System) | Notify list changed from bmwg-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-bmwg-reset@ietf.org to (None) |
2012-08-22
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06 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Stewart Bryant |
2012-08-22
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06 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Adrian Farrel |
2012-08-22
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06 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Russ Housley |
2011-03-28
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06 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to RFC Published from RFC Ed Queue. |
2011-03-28
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06 | Cindy Morgan | [Note]: changed to 'RFC 6201' |
2011-03-27
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06 | (System) | RFC published |
2011-01-18
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06 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent. |
2011-01-14
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06 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2011-01-14
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06 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2011-01-14
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06 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2011-01-14
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06 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2011-01-14
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06 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2011-01-14
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06 | Cindy Morgan | Approval announcement text regenerated |
2011-01-14
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06 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot writeup text changed |
2011-01-14
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06 | Ron Bonica | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup. |
2010-12-23
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06 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-06.txt |
2010-12-22
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my specific Discuss points. My personal belief remains that it is the recovery time you should measure not the down … [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my specific Discuss points. My personal belief remains that it is the recovery time you should measure not the down time plus recovery time, but if this is what the WG thinks is useful, I'll let it go. The WG chair and responsible AD need to consider whether the WG need to sign off on the substantive definition of "Reset" added to this document? |
2010-12-22
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Adrian Farrel has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2010-12-20
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06 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Stewart Bryant has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2010-12-19
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-05.txt |
2010-12-17
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06 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2010-12-16 |
2010-12-16
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06 | Amy Vezza | State changed to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation. |
2010-12-16
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06 | Russ Housley | [Ballot discuss] The Gen-ART Review by Joel Halpern on 27-Nov-2010 included two questions. I think that the should be answered before the document … [Ballot discuss] The Gen-ART Review by Joel Halpern on 27-Nov-2010 included two questions. I think that the should be answered before the document is approved: Is there a reason that section 4.1.1.1 on reset of a single-RP device refers to simple removal and re-insertion, without explaining the caveats that section 4.1.2 (line card removal and re-insertion) provides about using a method to avoid having the human time for the removal and reinsertion have a significant effect on the operation? Also, should the same caveat not be applied to section 4.3.1 on Power Interruption? There seems to be an implicit assumption that the human operation will be sufficiently fast, and the recovery sufficiently slow, that the human element does not matter. At the very least, it would seem that this should be articulated. |
2010-12-16
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06 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2010-12-16
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06 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-16
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06 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] I have no issues with this document, but Ari Keränen found some small problems in his review: 2.2. Recovery Time Measurement Methods … [Ballot comment] I have no issues with this document, but Ari Keränen found some small problems in his review: 2.2. Recovery Time Measurement Methods There are two accepted methods to measure the 'recovery time': Is the meaning of "accepted" as in "no other method SHOULD be used" or as in "currently widely used" (or something else)? 4.2. Software Reset Test A software reset is initiated for example from the DUT's Command Line Interface (CLI). The CLI abbreviation is used already in Section 4.1. Would make sense to move the expanded form there. The second part of the test "Procedure" (6 lines of text) seems to be identical for all the test cases. Perhaps this text could be in the draft just once and have that single instance referenced in the test case descriptions. |
2010-12-16
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06 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Jari Arkko |
2010-12-16
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06 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-16
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06 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-16
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06 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot discuss] "The tester / operator MAY use either method for recovery time measurement depending on the test tool capability. However, the Frame-loss … [Ballot discuss] "The tester / operator MAY use either method for recovery time measurement depending on the test tool capability. However, the Frame-loss method SHOULD be used if the test tool is capable of (a) counting the number of lost frames per stream, and (b) transmitting test frame despite the physical link status, whereas Time-stamp method SHOULD be used if the test tool is capable of (a) time- stamping each frame, (b) monitoring received frame's timestamp, and (c) transmitting frames only if the physical link status is UP." The document should explain 1) Why is the phy link status is only applicable in the second case? 2) Any guidance on choice of method if an equipment can do both? ==== The scaling considerations consider the RIB not the FIB. To some extent this is reasonable in that the number of routes is a topology factor and the number of FIB entries is an implementation issue. However given that in many routers it is FIB update time that dominates the topic is worthy of greater discussion. One particular case where FIB entries come into play is when you get ECMPs (which increases FIB entries) another is BGP free core (which reduces them). ==== When power cycle tests (and maybe some of the other tests) are conducted, I would expect that the outage would be dominated by the specifics of the routing protocols, which are not particularly well characterized by this test? In particular it's difficult to see how to fairly test this without some characteristic of the routing behavior the routing peers being reported in the test results. |
2010-12-16
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06 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded |
2010-12-16
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06 | Gonzalo Camarillo | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-15
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] "BMWG" is used without expansion. --- … [Ballot comment] "BMWG" is used without expansion. --- Section 3 In order to provide consistent and fairness s/constistent/consistence/ |
2010-12-15
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot discuss] It looks to me as though a number of these tests might require that forwarding state is re-established from an external source (e.g., … [Ballot discuss] It looks to me as though a number of these tests might require that forwarding state is re-established from an external source (e.g., re-learned from neighbors). Are these situations explicitly excluded from the set of benchmarking methodologies described in this document, in which case it would be really nice to call this out in the Scope section. If control plane interactions with neighbors were needed, you would have a much wider field to describe in order to ensure "fair" reuslts for the DUT. --- Further to Russ's Discuss, I find the following paragraph in Section 4.1 confusing: Reset procedures that do not require the physical removal and insertion of a hardware component are RECOMMENDED. These include using the CLI or a physical switch or button. If such procedures cannot be performed (e.g., for lack of platform support, or because the corresponding Test Case calls for them), human operation time SHOULD be minimized across different platforms and Test Cases as much as possible, and variation in human operator time SHOULD also be minimized across different vendors products as much as practical, by having the same person perform the operation, and by practicing the operation. Surely the variations in operator time will not matter. For example, the time that a card is out for will not change the test, which is measuring the time to recover from when the card is reinsterted. Thus, there is no fear of variation between vendors' products becuase the ease or insertion of a card is not relevant to the atomic event of the card being (finally) inserted. More of an issue would be how you synchronize the timing event with the reinsertion of the card. That means hat your Recommendation is sound, but the motivation is suspect. |
2010-12-15
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded |
2010-12-15
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06 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-15
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06 | Russ Housley | [Ballot discuss] The Gen-ART Review by Joel Halpern on 27-Nov-2010 included two questions. I think that the should be answered before the document … [Ballot discuss] The Gen-ART Review by Joel Halpern on 27-Nov-2010 included two questions. I think that the should be answered before the document is approved: Is there a reason that section 4.1.1.1 on reset of a single-RP device refers to simple removal and re-insertion, without explaining the caveats that section 4.1.2 (line card removal and re-insertion) provides about using a method to avoid having the human time for the removal and reinsertion have a significant effect on the operation? Also, should the same caveat not be applied to section 4.3.1 on Power Interruption? There seems to be an implicit assumption that the human operation will be sufficiently fast, and the recovery sufficiently slow, that the human element does not matter. At the very least, it would seem that this should be articulated. |
2010-12-15
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06 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded |
2010-12-15
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06 | Sean Turner | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-14
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06 | Peter Saint-Andre | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-14
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06 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2010-12-10
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-04.txt |
2010-12-07
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06 | Ron Bonica | State changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead. |
2010-12-07
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06 | (System) | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call. |
2010-12-01
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06 | Ron Bonica | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2010-12-16 by Ron Bonica |
2010-12-01
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06 | Ron Bonica | [Note]: 'Al Morton (acmorton@att.com) is the document shepherd.' added by Ron Bonica |
2010-12-01
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06 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ronald Bonica |
2010-12-01
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06 | Ron Bonica | Ballot has been issued by Ron Bonica |
2010-12-01
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06 | Ron Bonica | Created "Approve" ballot |
2010-11-30
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06 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stephen Farrell |
2010-11-30
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06 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stephen Farrell |
2010-11-29
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06 | Amanda Baber | We understand that this document does not require any IANA actions. |
2010-11-23
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06 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2010-11-23
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06 | Amy Vezza | State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested. The following Last Call Announcement was sent out: To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Reply-to: ietf@ietf.org … State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested. The following Last Call Announcement was sent out: To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Reply-to: ietf@ietf.org CC: Subject: Last Call: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset (Device Reset Characterization) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Benchmarking Methodology WG (bmwg) to consider the following document: - 'Device Reset Characterization ' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2010-12-07. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-03.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=19981&rfc_flag=0 |
2010-11-23
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06 | Amy Vezza | Last Call was requested |
2010-11-23
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06 | Amy Vezza | State changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested. |
2010-11-23
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06 | Amy Vezza | Last Call text changed |
2010-11-23
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06 | Ron Bonica | Last Call was requested by Ron Bonica |
2010-11-23
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06 | Ron Bonica | Last Call was requested by Ron Bonica |
2010-11-23
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06 | Ron Bonica | Last Call was requested by Ron Bonica |
2010-11-23
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06 | Ron Bonica | Last Call was requested by Ron Bonica |
2010-11-23
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06 | Ron Bonica | Last Call was requested by Ron Bonica |
2010-11-23
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06 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2010-11-23
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06 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2010-11-23
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06 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2010-11-11
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06 | Cindy Morgan | (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he … (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Al Morton is the shepherd, has read every version since the draft was created and subsequently adopted on the charter, and believes it is now ready for publication. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The draft has been reviewed by many active working group members and benefits from their comments. It has also been circulated to other performance-oriented working groups. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? No. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. There are no concerns and no IPR disclosures. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? After several WG Last Calls, the latest going quietly except for some editorial comments, both the active and the passive seem now to be satisfied. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) No. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? Yes. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. The references are split. There is one informative reference to a draft that was since updated. No down-refs, all are drafts in this series are informational. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? N/A (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? N/A (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. An operational forwarding device may need to be re-started (automatically or manually) for a variety of reasons, an event that we call a "reset" in this document. Since there may be an interruption in the forwarding operation during a reset, it is useful to know how long a device takes to resume the forwarding operation. This document specifies a methodology for characterizing reset (and recovery time) during benchmarking of forwarding devices, and provides clarity and consistency in reset test procedures beyond what is specified in RFC2544. It therefore updates RFC2544. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? During the development of MPLS Forwarding Benchmarks as an add-on to our fundamental forwarding plane memo, RFC 2544, the additional complexities of RESET testing with current network devices became an issue. The WG moved quickly to resolve the concerns with a new set of methods, and this memo is the result. Consensus was achieved after issues were resolved in list discussions. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? Since this is an easily understood topic, many folks read this memo, simply nodded and moved-on. Resets in hardware, in control software, and interruption of power supply are addressed in this new methodology. |
2010-11-11
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06 | Cindy Morgan | Draft added in state Publication Requested |
2010-11-11
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06 | Cindy Morgan | [Note]: 'Al Morton (acmorton@att.com) is the document shepherd.' added |
2010-11-09
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-03.txt |
2010-10-11
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-02.txt |
2010-07-09
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-01.txt |
2010-05-03
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-00.txt |