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draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-09

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2014-08-14
09 (System) RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48
2014-08-01
09 (System) RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR
2014-07-30
09 (System) RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT
2014-07-03
09 Tero Kivinen Closed request for Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'Withdrawn'
2014-06-23
09 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent
2014-06-20
09 (System) IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor
2014-06-20
09 (System) RFC Editor state changed to EDIT
2014-06-20
09 (System) Announcement was received by RFC Editor
2014-06-20
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2014-06-19
09 (System) IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors
2014-06-19
09 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent
2014-06-19
09 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2014-06-19
09 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2014-06-19
09 Amy Vezza Ballot approval text was generated
2014-06-19
09 Ted Lemon IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup
2014-06-19
09 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] Position for Brian Haberman has been changed to No Objection from Discuss
2014-06-19
09 Barry Leiba [Ballot comment]
Version -09 resolves my questions; thanks for the clarifications!
2014-06-19
09 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] Position for Barry Leiba has been changed to No Objection from Discuss
2014-06-12
09 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
2014-06-12
09 Qi Sun IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed
2014-06-12
09 Qi Sun New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-09.txt
2014-05-29
08 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation
2014-05-29
08 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2014-05-28
08 Richard Barnes
[Ballot comment]
I agree with others that the use case for this document is not entirely clear.  Perhaps it would help if you could give …
[Ballot comment]
I agree with others that the use case for this document is not entirely clear.  Perhaps it would help if you could give an example of how the host would use some of the information in the DHCPv4 payload.  Would it send IPv4 packets directly on the link?  Would it have to use a tunnel?  Is the expectation that the tunnel would be configured somehow via DHCPv6?
2014-05-28
08 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2014-05-28
08 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2014-05-28
08 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2014-05-28
08 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] Position for Stephen Farrell has been changed to No Objection from Discuss
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot discuss]


I have one remaining simple enough question:-)

(1) cleared

(2) What if the client gets conflicting results from
DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, e.g. for …
[Ballot discuss]


I have one remaining simple enough question:-)

(1) cleared

(2) What if the client gets conflicting results from
DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, e.g. for a DNS server?  Don't you
need to say what to do or is it ok that different
clients do different things?
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot comment]

This was a discuss point. I'm ok if its looked at separately
as a generic leakage/linkage thing, but it'd be good to
look …
[Ballot comment]

This was a discuss point. I'm ok if its looked at separately
as a generic leakage/linkage thing, but it'd be good to
look at.

(1) I think you need to note any cases where this
mechanism could lead to new leakage of the mapping
from an old IP address/lease to a new one, when a
client moves network. Shouldn't there be some case
where the client ought not try renew such a lease,
e.g. if the DHCPv6 server is known to be different
from the one used to get the DHCPv4 lease? Or is
that too hard?

--- OLD comments below

- The use-case for this isn't very clear to me from
the text. But that's ok, I assume its clear to
others.

- BOOTP could do with a reference. (Is that RFC951?)
Saying that BOOTP messages "can also be transported"
is pretty ambiguous - do you mean that
clients/servers are supposed to support other BOOTP
messages or not?

- 5.3: I like the MBZ field definition - its succinct
and clear. Be good to see that copied in other specs.

- Section 8, last para: are you saying here that all
clients MUST send a client identifier?  I wasn't
clear. (I assume there's no point in trying to get
this draft to recommend random or more privacy
friendly values in that field?:-)

- Section 11: I don't get the security implications
of this form of tunnelling - has someone looked at
whether or not any of the many DHCPv4 options might
be problematic when transferred in DHCPv6? If so,
that doesn't come across at all from the security
considerations. And it could be the case that that's
ok, or not. I'm just asking if someone has looked at
that.
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell Ballot comment and discuss text updated for Stephen Farrell
2014-05-27
08 Kathleen Moriarty
[Ballot comment]
I support and am following several of  Stephen, Alissa, and Brian's DISCUSSes and comments.  The other comments seem to be encapsulated in those.  …
[Ballot comment]
I support and am following several of  Stephen, Alissa, and Brian's DISCUSSes and comments.  The other comments seem to be encapsulated in those.  I don't think I have anything to add.
2014-05-27
08 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2014-05-27
08 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2014-05-27
08 Spencer Dawkins
[Ballot comment]
Just as a high-order bit, is there any reasonable concern that this new functionality would increase the chances of fragmentation? I'm guessing you're …
[Ballot comment]
Just as a high-order bit, is there any reasonable concern that this new functionality would increase the chances of fragmentation? I'm guessing you're nowhere near a place where that's going to be a problem, but TSV guys ask ...

9.  Relay Agent Behavior

  When a DHCPv6 relay agent receives a DHCPv4-query message, it may not
  recognize this message.  The unknown message can be forwarded as
  described in [I-D.ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-unknown-msg].

I'm slightly confused here. The next paragraph isn't "additionally", is it? Perhaps "If it recognizes the message ..."?

  Additionally, the DHCPv6 relay agent MAY allow the configuration of a
  dedicated DHCPv4 over DHCPv6 specific destination address(es),
  differing from the address(es) of the DHCPv6-only server(s).  To
  implement this function, the relay checks the received DHCPv6 message
  type and forwards according to the following logic:

I have the same question that Brian included in his Discuss: "2. How does the client know to include the 4o6 server address option?  Is it triggered by the failure of DHCPv4 to receive configuration data?  In other words, what bootstraps the insertion of this option?  If it is a failure to receive a DHCPv4 response, shouldn't that be pointed out?"

Finally, I'm watching the conversation on Barry's Discuss, and just to chime in - if the authors could add something like Barry's set of if statements covering just enough of a normal request to result in an IPv4 address being allocated, that would have been helpful to me, but I wouldn't encourage you to go as far as anything like lease refreshes, etc.

So ... do the right thing :D
2014-05-27
08 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2014-05-27
08 Brian Haberman
[Ballot comment]

I support Stephen's point on having a better description of the use case.  It will not benefit the DHCPv6 implementer who is coding …
[Ballot comment]

I support Stephen's point on having a better description of the use case.  It will not benefit the DHCPv6 implementer who is coding this, but it would provide the justification for this option.
2014-05-27
08 Brian Haberman Ballot comment text updated for Brian Haberman
2014-05-27
08 Brian Haberman
[Ballot discuss]
I have no objection to the publication of this document, but I have an issue I would like the authors to respond to... …
[Ballot discuss]
I have no objection to the publication of this document, but I have an issue I would like the authors to respond to...

Section 8 starts with:

  The DHCPv4-over-DHCPv6 function MUST be disabled by default.  The
  client MUST obtain the necessary IPv6 configuration (stateless or
  stateful) before using DHCPv4 over DHCPv6.  The client intending to
  use DHCPv4 over DHCPv6 MUST request the 4o6 Server Address option
  using Option Request option (ORO) in every Solicit, Request, Renew,
  Rebind and Information-request message.

I have two questions about this text.

1. It seems illogical to say the 4o6 function must be disabled, yet the client must request the 4o6 server address option.  That certainly sounds like the functionality is enabled.  What is really meant by that first sentence?

2. How does the client know to include the 4o6 server address option?  Is it triggered by the failure of DHCPv4 to receive configuration data?  In other words, what bootstraps the insertion of this option?  If it is a failure to receive a DHCPv4 response, shouldn't that be pointed out?
2014-05-27
08 Brian Haberman
[Ballot comment]

1. I support Stephen's point on having a better description of the use case.  It will not benefit the DHCPv6 implementer who is …
[Ballot comment]

1. I support Stephen's point on having a better description of the use case.  It will not benefit the DHCPv6 implementer who is coding this, but it would provide the justification for this option.
2014-05-27
08 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2014-05-27
08 Barry Leiba
[Ballot discuss]
This DISCUSS is specifically to have a brief discussion -- I do not expect nor want any document changes at this point.  I …
[Ballot discuss]
This DISCUSS is specifically to have a brief discussion -- I do not expect nor want any document changes at this point.  I want to make sure I correctly understand the flow that the document is proposing.

Here's how I understand the protocol flow from what I read in the document:

- If the client can use DHCPv4 directly, it does, and also uses DHCPv6.  The protocol described here is not involved.

- If the client can not use DHCPv4 directly, it uses DHCPv6.  It includes the 4o6 Server Address option in its request.

- If the server does not respond with the 4o6 Server Address option, we just have plain DHCPv6, and the protocol described here is not involved any further.

- If the server does respond with the 4o6 Server Address option, the client uses the protocol described here, sending a DHCPv4-query and getting a DHCPv4-response.

Is this correct?  If not, what is the correct flow description?

Does it make sense to include something like this in the document (this text, or a correct version)?  A flow diagram?  Both?  Neither?

Thanks in advance for taking a short time to sort this out with me.
2014-05-27
08 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot discuss]


I have two hopefully simple enough questions...

(1) I think you need to note any cases where this
mechanism could lead to new …
[Ballot discuss]


I have two hopefully simple enough questions...

(1) I think you need to note any cases where this
mechanism could lead to new leakage of the mapping
from an old IP address/lease to a new one, when a
client moves network. Shouldn't there be some case
where the client ought not try renew such a lease,
e.g. if the DHCPv6 server is known to be different
from the one used to get the DHCPv4 lease? Or is
that too hard?

(2) What if the client gets conflicting results from
DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, e.g. for a DNS server?  Don't you
need to say what to do or is it ok that different
clients do different things?
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot comment]

- The use-case for this isn't very clear to me from
the text. But that's ok, I assume its clear to
others.

- …
[Ballot comment]

- The use-case for this isn't very clear to me from
the text. But that's ok, I assume its clear to
others.

- BOOTP could do with a reference. (Is that RFC951?)
Saying that BOOTP messages "can also be transported"
is pretty ambiguous - do you mean that
clients/servers are supposed to support other BOOTP
messages or not?

- 5.3: I like the MBZ field definition - its succinct
and clear. Be good to see that copied in other specs.

- Section 8, last para: are you saying here that all
clients MUST send a client identifier?  I wasn't
clear. (I assume there's no point in trying to get
this draft to recommend random or more privacy
friendly values in that field?:-)

- Section 11: I don't get the security implications
of this form of tunnelling - has someone looked at
whether or not any of the many DHCPv4 options might
be problematic when transferred in DHCPv6? If so,
that doesn't come across at all from the security
considerations. And it could be the case that that's
ok, or not. I'm just asking if someone has looked at
that.
2014-05-27
08 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2014-05-26
08 Alissa Cooper
[Ballot comment]
Sections 6 and 7:
It seems odd that "option-code" appears in the legend of the diagrams in each of these sections, but not …
[Ballot comment]
Sections 6 and 7:
It seems odd that "option-code" appears in the legend of the diagrams in each of these sections, but not in the diagrams themselves (e.g., it seems like the first field in each diagram should be "option-code" rather than the code itself).

Section 9:
"When a DHCPv6 relay agent receives a DHCPv4-query message, it may not
  recognize this message.  The unknown message can be forwarded as
  described in [I-D.ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-unknown-msg]."

I'm curious why this behavior of relays is not normatively required. That is, this text seems to leave it up to the relay implementor to decide whether to forward or drop messages with unknown message types, even though forwarding them seems like the preferred behavior.

Section 10:
s/which the server using/which the server is using/

s/use "flags" field/use the "flags" field/

Section 11:
Is there another document you can point to that discusses how a host increases its susceptibility to fingerprinting when it gets configured with both v6 and v4 addresses? Seems like that would be a useful reference here.
2014-05-26
08 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2014-05-23
08 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed
2014-05-22
08 Qi Sun IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK
2014-05-22
08 Qi Sun New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-08.txt
2014-05-22
07 Ted Lemon IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup
2014-05-22
07 Ted Lemon Ballot has been issued
2014-05-22
07 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2014-05-22
07 Ted Lemon Created "Approve" ballot
2014-05-22
07 Ted Lemon Ballot writeup was changed
2014-05-22
07 Ted Lemon Placed on agenda for telechat - 2014-05-29
2014-05-03
07 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Fred Baker.
2014-04-29
07 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call
2014-04-28
07 Dan Romascanu Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready with Issues. Reviewer: Dan Romascanu.
2014-04-28
07 Pearl Liang
logged (manually) the comments:

IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-07.  Authors should review the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies and respond to …
logged (manually) the comments:

IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-07.  Authors should review the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon as possible.

We received the following comments/questions from the IANA's reviewer:

IANA has a question about the IANA Action requested in this document.

Upon approval of this document, IANA understands that there are two actions which IANA must complete.

First, in the Option Codes subregistry of the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv6 (DHCPv6) registry located at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/dhcpv6-parameters/

two new option codes will be registered as follows:

Value: [ TBD-at-registration ]
Description: OPTION_DHCPV4_MSG
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

Value: [ TBD-at-registration ]
Description: OPTION_DHCP4_O_DHCP6_SERVER
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

Second, in the Message Types subregistry also in the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv6 (DHCPv6) registry located at:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/dhcpv6-parameters/

two new message type codes will be registered as follows:

Value: [ TBD-at-registration ]
Description: DHCPV4-QUERY
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

Value: [ TBD-at-registration ]
Description: DHCPV4-RESPONSE
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

IANA Question ->
- Please change the name from "DHCP Message Codes" to "DHCP Message
Types" as there is no sub-registry called "Message Codes" in
the DHCPv6 registry.

- IANA requests that the URL in the IANA Considerations section of the document be changed from:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/dhcpv6-parameters/dhcpv6-parameters.xml

to:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/dhcpv6-parameters/

This will ensure the URL will always work and point to the most current
version/extension.

IANA understands that these two actions are the only ones that need to be completed upon approval of this document.
2014-04-25
07 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed
2014-04-18
07 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Fred Baker
2014-04-18
07 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Fred Baker
2014-04-18
07 Gunter Van de Velde Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'Withdrawn'
2014-04-18
07 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Joe Abley
2014-04-18
07 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Joe Abley
2014-04-17
07 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Julien Laganier
2014-04-17
07 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Julien Laganier
2014-04-16
07 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Dan Romascanu
2014-04-16
07 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Dan Romascanu
2014-04-15
07 Cindy Morgan IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2014-04-15
07 Cindy Morgan
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC:
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (DHCPv4 over DHCPv6 Transport) to …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

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To: IETF-Announce
CC:
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (DHCPv4 over DHCPv6 Transport) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Dynamic Host Configuration WG
(dhc) to consider the following document:
- 'DHCPv4 over DHCPv6 Transport'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract


  IPv4 connectivity is still needed as networks migrate towards IPv6.
  Users require IPv4 configuration even if the uplink to their service
  provider supports IPv6 only.  This document describes a mechanism for
  obtaining IPv4 configuration information dynamically in IPv6 networks
  by carrying DHCPv4 messages over DHCPv6 transport.  Two new DHCPv6
  messages and two new DHCPv6 options are defined for this purpose.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


2014-04-15
07 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2014-04-15
07 Ted Lemon Last call was requested
2014-04-15
07 Ted Lemon Last call announcement was generated
2014-04-15
07 Ted Lemon Ballot approval text was generated
2014-04-15
07 Ted Lemon Ballot writeup was generated
2014-04-15
07 Ted Lemon IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup
2014-04-15
07 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
2014-04-15
07 Qi Sun New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-07.txt
2014-04-11
06 Ted Lemon IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from Publication Requested
2014-03-04
06 Bernie Volz
Write up for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6:

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
    Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why …
Write up for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6:

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
    Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why
    is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in
    the title page header?

Standards Track. This is the proper type because this document specifies
a means for using DHCPv4 over an IPv6 only transport. The type is
indicated in the title page header.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
    Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement
    Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action"
    announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement
    contains the following sections:

Technical Summary:

This document specifies a mechanism for obtaining IPv4 configuration
information dynamically in IPv6 networks by carrying DHCPv4 messages
over DHCPv6.

Working Group Summary:

The WG was asked to develop a standard for how IPv4 configuration
parameters could be obtained when no native IPv4 communication was
necessarily possible (i.e., native DHCPv4 could not be used because
there was no IPv4 transport). The WG developed several proposals and
preferred this mechanism.

The standard encapsulates standard DHCPv4 messages inside DHCPv6
messages to provide for transporting the DHCPv4 client requests to
a server that can process the DHCPv4 requests.

Please also see draft-ietf-dhc-v4configuration as it provides
additional motivation and analysis of alternatives.

Document Quality:

This document has had thorough reviews by many interested and
knowledgeable folks (beyond those mentioned in the acknowledgements
section). There were no significant points of difficulty or
controversy with the contents of the document, though there has been
some controversy as to whether this technology is needed at all as
native IPv4 (DHCPv4) could be supported directly over many "IPv6
only" technologies.

An implementation has been done - see
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-dhc-8.pptx.

Personnel:

Bernie Volz is the document shepherd. Ted Lemon is the responsible AD.

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
    the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not
    ready for publication, please explain why the document is being
    forwarded to the IESG.

I read the document thoroughly, and submitted quite a few editorial
suggestions to the authors, which they implemented. I believe it is
ready for publication.


(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
    breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

No, the document has had a good deal of careful review.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
    broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA,
    DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the
    review that took place.

This is strictly a DHCP document, and has had sufficient review from
DHCP experts.

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document
    Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director
    and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she
    is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has
    concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if
    the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still
    wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here.

I think the document is good as written, and serves a useful purpose.

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
    disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of
    BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why?

Yes, the authors did confirm that they are not aware of any IPR.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If
    so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
    disclosures.

No.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
    represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
    being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?

There is a strong consensus behind this document and in particular from
very active WG participants (i.e. "DHCP experts").

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
    discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in
    separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It
    should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is
    publicly available.)

Yes - Ole Troan has concerns that the mechanism described by this draft
is not needed for existing tunneling technology as native DHCPv4 is
available and would not require any changes to clients, relays, and
servers (I have included this here as his objections are on the DHC WG
mailing list). I don't believe Ole has a technical objection to the
mechanism, other than he does not feel it is needed.

The WG consensus is that when native DHCPv4 is available, it should be
used. However, when it is not or when the network provider does not
want any native IPv4 traffic on parts of their network, the mechanism
in this draft will be required and useful.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
    document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the
    Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough;
    this check needs to be thorough.

The document passes the idnits tool (no nits found).

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
    criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type
    reviews.

The DHCPv6 messages and options defined by this document follow the
recommendations of draft-ietf-dhc-option-guidelines-17, which has been
submitted to the RC Editor, and were carefully reviewed by the DHC WG.
There are no other formal review requirements.

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
    either normative or informative?

Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready
    for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such
    normative references exist, what is the plan for their
    completion?

No, all the normative references are to RFCs.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC
    3967
)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area
    Director in the Last Call procedure.

No.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
    existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header,
    listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the
    RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain
    why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship
    of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this
    information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers
    it unnecessary.

No.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA
    considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency
    with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol
    extensions that the document makes are associated with the
    appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any
    referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
    that newly created IANA registries include a detailed
    specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
    allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and
    a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see
    RFC 5226).

I reviewed the IANA Considerations section and it is fine and clear; the
actions are to define new DHCPv6 messages and options and the appropriate
registry is clearly identified to IANA.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for
    future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG
    would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new
    registries.

None.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
    Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
    language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

There are no such parts to the document.
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz IESG state changed to Publication Requested
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz
Write up for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6:

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
    Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why …
Write up for draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6:

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
    Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why
    is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in
    the title page header?

Standards Track. This is the proper type because this document specifies
a means for using DHCPv4 over an IPv6 only transport. The type is
indicated in the title page header.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
    Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement
    Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action"
    announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement
    contains the following sections:

Technical Summary:

This document specifies a mechanism for obtaining IPv4 configuration
information dynamically in IPv6 networks by carrying DHCPv4 messages
over DHCPv6.

Working Group Summary:

The WG was asked to develop a standard for how IPv4 configuration
parameters could be obtained when no native IPv4 communication was
necessarily possible (i.e., native DHCPv4 could not be used because
there was no IPv4 transport). The WG developed several proposals and
preferred this mechanism.

The standard encapsulates standard DHCPv4 messages inside DHCPv6
messages to provide for transporting the DHCPv4 client requests to
a server that can process the DHCPv4 requests.

Please also see draft-ietf-dhc-v4configuration as it provides
additional motivation and analysis of alternatives.

Document Quality:

This document has had thorough reviews by many interested and
knowledgeable folks (beyond those mentioned in the acknowledgements
section). There were no significant points of difficulty or
controversy with the contents of the document, though there has been
some controversy as to whether this technology is needed at all as
native IPv4 (DHCPv4) could be supported directly over many "IPv6
only" technologies.

Personnel:

Bernie Volz is the document shepherd. Ted Lemon is the responsible AD.

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
    the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not
    ready for publication, please explain why the document is being
    forwarded to the IESG.

I read the document thoroughly, and submitted quite a few editorial
suggestions to the authors, which they implemented. I believe it is
ready for publication.


(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
    breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

No, the document has had a good deal of careful review.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
    broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA,
    DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the
    review that took place.

This is strictly a DHCP document, and has had sufficient review from
DHCP experts.

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document
    Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director
    and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she
    is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has
    concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if
    the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still
    wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here.

I think the document is good as written, and serves a useful purpose.

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
    disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of
    BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why?

Yes, the authors did confirm that they are not aware of any IPR.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If
    so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
    disclosures.

No.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
    represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
    being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?

There is a strong consensus behind this document and in particular from
very active WG participants (i.e. "DHCP experts").

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
    discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in
    separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It
    should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is
    publicly available.)

Yes - Ole Troan has concerns that the mechanism described by this draft
is not needed for existing tunneling technology as native DHCPv4 is
available and would not require any changes to clients, relays, and
servers (I have included this here as his objections are on the DHC WG
mailing list). I don't believe Ole has a technical objection to the
mechanism, other than he does not feel it is needed.

The WG consensus is that when native DHCPv4 is available, it should be
used. However, when it is not or when the network provider does not
want any native IPv4 traffic on parts of their network, the mechanism
in this draft will be required and useful.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
    document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the
    Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough;
    this check needs to be thorough.

The document passes the idnits tool (no nits found).

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
    criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type
    reviews.

The DHCPv6 messages and options defined by this document follow the
recommendations of draft-ietf-dhc-option-guidelines-17, which has been
submitted to the RC Editor, and were carefully reviewed by the DHC WG.
There are no other formal review requirements.

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
    either normative or informative?

Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready
    for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such
    normative references exist, what is the plan for their
    completion?

No, all the normative references are to RFCs.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC
    3967
)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area
    Director in the Last Call procedure.

No.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
    existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header,
    listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the
    RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain
    why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship
    of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this
    information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers
    it unnecessary.

No.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA
    considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency
    with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol
    extensions that the document makes are associated with the
    appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any
    referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
    that newly created IANA registries include a detailed
    specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
    allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and
    a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see
    RFC 5226).

I reviewed the IANA Considerations section and it is fine and clear; the
actions are to define new DHCPv6 messages and options and the appropriate
registry is clearly identified to IANA.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for
    future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG
    would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new
    registries.

None.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
    Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
    language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

There are no such parts to the document.
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz State Change Notice email list changed to dhc-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6@tools.ietf.org
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz Responsible AD changed to Ted Lemon
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz Working group state set to Submitted to IESG for Publication
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz IESG state set to Publication Requested
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz IESG process started in state Publication Requested
2014-02-20
06 Bernie Volz Changed document writeup
2014-02-19
06 Naveen Khan New revision available
2014-02-14
05 Marcin Siodelski New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-05.txt
2014-02-11
04 Bernie Volz IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call
2014-02-11
04 Bernie Volz Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None
2014-02-11
04 Bernie Volz Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2014-01-17
04 Ian Farrer New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-04.txt
2013-11-24
03 Bernie Volz
The authors of draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03.txt) believe it is ready for working group last call. Please review this draft and indicate whether or not …
The authors of draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03.txt) believe it is ready for working group last call. Please review this draft and indicate whether or not you feel it is ready to be published. Your input is important! Please respond by Dec 9th, 2013.
2013-11-24
03 Bernie Volz IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document
2013-11-22
03 Qi Sun New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-03.txt
2013-11-18
02 Bernie Volz Document shepherd changed to Bernie Volz
2013-10-18
02 Qi Sun New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-02.txt
2013-07-15
01 Marcin Siodelski New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-01.txt
2013-04-26
00 Marcin Siodelski New version available: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6-00.txt