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** Section 126.96.36.199. Can the permissible schemes for the Endpoint ID URL be clarified. Initially the text says: The scheme identified by the < scheme name > in an endpoint ID is a set of syntactic and semantic rules that fully explain how to parse and interpret the SSP. The set of allowable schemes is effectively unlimited. Any scheme conforming to [URIREG] may be used in a bundle protocol endpoint ID. [URIREG] would suggest that any schema in IANA "Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) Schemes" Registry’ is valid. However, later, the text says: The first item of the array SHALL be the code number identifying the endpoint's URI scheme [URI], as defined in the registry of URI scheme code numbers for Bundle Protocol maintained by IANA as described in Section 10. [URIREG]. This text suggests that the new Bundle Protocol URI Scheme Type registry should govern the EID schemes. However, then the text again cites URIREG. Perhaps the intent is that URI's valid per [URIREG] would be registered in the new bundle protocol registry and values in this new registry would be used.
** Figure 1. Does the second from the left column running “T1/T2” and “N1/N2” mean that this node has a dual stack of N1+T1 and N2+T2? ** Section 3.1. Can a node be part of multiple bundle endpoints? I would assume yes, but don't see that said anywhere? ** Section 3.1. Per the definition of Bundle endpoint, there is a reference to Section 4.4.1 but that section doesn’t exist. Did you mean Section 4.1.5? ** Section 3.1. Per the definition of Registration, and registrations having two states (active and passive), could you please clarify why one would choose to be in either state. ** Section 3.3. Per this list of BPA services, please add clarifying language to the effect that the details of this registration functionality is out of scope. ** Section 4. (Note that, while CBOR permits considerable flexibility in the encoding of bundles, this flexibility must not be interpreted as inviting increased complexity in protocol data unit structure.) What is practical guidance should an implementer take from this text? ** Section 188.8.131.52 Per “A node's membership in a given singleton endpoint MUST be sustained at least until the nominal operation of the Bundle Protocol no longer depends on the identification of that node using that endpoint's ID.” -- what does it mean to “sustain” the membership? -- how would a node know that the "nominal operation of the BP no longer depends" of this address binding? ** Section 4.2.2. Per “Note that, in general, the creation of two distinct bundles with the same source node ID and bundle creation timestamp may result in unexpected network behavior and/or suboptimal performance”, where is that behavior described? ** Section 5.1. Per “When the generation of status reports is enabled, the decision on whether or not to generate a requested status report is left to the discretion of the bundle protocol agent.”, can way points also choose not for forward these reports based on configuration? ** Section 6.1.1. Valid status report reason codes are defined in Figure 4 below but the list of status report reason codes provided here is neither exhaustive nor exclusive; supplementary DTN protocol specifications (including, but not restricted to, the Bundle Security Protocol [BPSEC]) may define additional reason codes. Shouldn’t the text point to the associated IANA sub-registry (“Bundle Status Report Reason Codes” sub-registry) as the canonical place to understand semantics of future values? ** Section 9. Recommend being clearer on the scope of the protections. OLD: Because the security mechanisms are extension blocks that are themselves inserted into the bundle, the integrity and confidentiality of bundle blocks are protected while the bundle is at rest, awaiting transmission at the next forwarding opportunity, as well as in transit. NEW: Because the security mechanisms are extension blocks that are themselves inserted into the bundle, the protections they afford apply when while the bundle is at rest, awaiting transmission at the next forwarding opportunity, as well as in transit. ** Section 9. How is an implementor supposed to use the guidance in “Note that, while the primary block must remain in the clear for routing purposes, the Bundle protocol could be protected against traffic analysis to some extent by using bundle-in-bundle encapsulation … [which] is a current research topic”? There is no actionable guidance or pointers to more information. ** Section 9. . How is an implementor supposed to use the guidance in paragraph starting with “The bpsec extensions accommodate an open-ended range ...”. If there is a concrete proposal for “to sign and/or encrypt blocks using symmetric keys securely formed by Diffie-Hellman procedures”, BpSec suggest a spec needs to be written to register a security context to realize this approach. Recommend removal. Editorial Nit -- Figure 2. “CL1”, “CL2 …” is “Convergence Layer 1”, “2”? “CL” is not defined anywhere -- Section 5.4. s/adapter(s) in order to effect/adapter(s) in order to affect/
I support Roman's Discuss. (1) It's not clear to me that we should be defining new (near-)application-layer protocols on the standards track without mandatory security mechanisms. Even draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec defines a "BPSec threat model" that is largly the same as the RFC 3552 threat model, in which the network is completely untrusted and to provide end-to-end communications we must supply additional security mechanisms, yet BPSec is not required to implement or use. I could perhaps see room for allowing waypoint nodes that do not act as endpoints to remain security-unaware, but the justification for security-unaware endpoints seems quite lacking. (2) The state machine for transitions between singleton EID and non-singleton EID seems highly unclear to be usable in a globally synchronized manner (I refer specifically to the text in Section 184.108.40.206: "A node's membership in a given singleton endpoint MUST be sustained at least until the nominal operation of the Bundle Protocol no longer depends on the identification of that node using that endpoint's ID"). Distinction between singleton-EID and non-singleton EID may need to be made an explicit protocol element. (3) The forwarding procedure in Section 5.4 refers to a "data label extension block (to be defined in a future document)" with no reference; it doesn't really seem like this sort of speculative forward-looking statement is appropriate in a Proposed Standard. (4) We discuss using a Previous Node block to "return a bundle to sender" when forwarding failed, but do not discuss whether Previous Node should be added (or updated or removed) on transmission, receipt, or both. (5) The extensibility story seems incompletely described: what should an implementation do upon receiving a bundle with an unrecognized control flag bit set, or a block with an unrecognized control flag set? (6) The use of absolute times for creation timestamps suggests a strong dependence on accurate time (for nodes that do not acknowledge their lack of an accurate clock); the consequences of the failure of accurate time should be discussed in the security considerations section. (7) Section 4.1.6 should make a statement regarding whether leap seconds are included or excluded from the count of seconds since the DTN epoch. (8) The definition of Fragment offset needs to specify whether the lowest allowed byte index is zero or 1 (I believe zero, from other discussion). (9) Bundle status reports are only defined to include the creation timestamp of the bundle whose status is being reported on, but not the sequence number thereof. Since we allow nodes without accurate clocks to use a creation timestamp of zero and rely solely on the sequence number to identify bundles, it seems that the status reports for such bundles are effectively useless without the sequence number information. (10) Please resolve the internal inconsistency in Section 10.6 that simultaneously claims that potential bundle protocol URI scheme types are integers of undefined length and only have 255 available codepoints (i.e., definite length).
It's pretty unfortunate that we have to have separate (built-in) CRC and (dedicated block type) BIB support; a more unified scheme that always provides cryptographic integrity protection would have simpler encoding rules. I rather wonder why it's not possible to roll the CRC as a mechanism for detecting media-induced errors into the CLA functionality as opposed to needing to be in the top-level BPA. Then media not susceptible to errors could use no or a small CRC and more malleable media could use stronger CRCs, leaving the decision closer to the knowledge of the transport properties. Is a registration something that conceptually lives "in the network", or a purely local matter to the node in question? What about active vs. passive state thereof? The creation timestamp, sequence number, and lifetime can serve to some extent to detect replay of old data, though given the environments we expect this to operate in, it may be hard to differentiate a replay from normal delivery. I don't see any mechanisms that would allow for detection of dropped bundles (whether due to attack or other error), though it's not entirely clear that such a mechanism is possible in these environments. It may also be worth considering whether there is use for the ability detect a truncated application-layer "stream" that's a group of bundles related to each other in some way. I do see that the protocol is largely focused on bundles as discrete units, and so expect the answer to be "no", but this is one of the more standard security mechanisms, so I wanted to explicitly check. Similarly, one might imagine a block type that indicates the initial block types present in a bundle, which could be (required to be) subject to integrity protection so that removal of blocks could be detected at the recipient. Some further discussion of these points, in terms of the goals for these environments and what behaviors are actually attained, might be appropriate in the security considerations section. Section 3.1 Application Data Unit (ADU) - An application data unit is the unit of data whose conveyance to the bundle's destination is the purpose for the transmission of some bundle that is not a fragment (as defined below). I understand the desire for precision, but this definition feels very convoluted and could perhaps be made more accessible to an application author. Bundle node - A bundle node (or, in the context of this document, simply a "node") is any entity that can send and/or receive bundles. Each bundle node has three conceptual components, defined below, as shown in Figure 2: a "bundle protocol agent", a set of zero or more "convergence layer adapters", and an "application agent". If a node always has an application agent, won't anything done by that application agent make the node also part of an endpoint? Yet we discuss waypoint nodes that are not endpoints... Delivery - A bundle is considered to have been delivered at a node subject to a registration as soon as the application data unit that is the payload of the bundle, together with any relevant metadata (an implementation matter), has been presented to the node's application agent in a manner consistent with the state of that registration. Is this metadata considered attached to the ADU or the bundle or something else? Delivery failure action - The delivery failure action of a registration is the action that is to be taken when a bundle that is "deliverable" subject to that registration is received at a time when the registration is in the Passive state. Just to check my understanding: with registrations being per-(node,endpoint), in a case where many nodes are in an endpoint, we'll undertake a delivery failure action for each node with a passive registration even if the bundle is successfully delivered to a different node with an active registration? How does this interact with the "report-to" EID? Section 3.2 Every CLA implements its own thin layer of protocol, interposed between BP and the (usually "top") protocol(s) of the underlying native protocol stack; this "CL protocol" may only serve to multiplex and de-multiplex bundles to and from the underlying native protocol, or it may offer additional CL-specific functionality. The manner in which a CLA sends and receives bundles, as well as the definitions of CLAs and CL protocols, are beyond the scope of this specification. We still need to specify what interfaces a CLA needs to present to the BPA, though! Section 7 is a start at this (and probably worth cross-referencing from here), though it feels pretty sparse. In the case of a node that serves simply as a BP "router", the AA may have no application-specific element at all. The application- (But earlier we said that a node has all three elements, including an application agent. What would the Administrative Element do on such a "router" node?) The destination of every bundle is an endpoint, which may or may not be singleton. The source of every bundle is a node, identified by the endpoint ID for some singleton endpoint that contains that node. It might be worty a forward-reference to Section 220.127.116.11 where we record the requirement for a valid endpoint ID of a given node. The bundle protocol is designed for extensibility. Bundle protocol extensions, documented elsewhere, may extend this specification by: [...] . defining additional mandates and constraints on processing that conformant bundle protocol agents must perform at specified points in the inbound and outbound bundle processing cycles. It's not clear to me how "additional mandates and constraints" can successfully be imposed by protocol extensions given that the source node cannot in general know the path(s) the bundle will take. Section 4.1.2 When not omitted, the CRC SHALL be represented as a CBOR byte string of two bytes (that is, CBOR additional information 2, if CRC type is 1) or of four bytes (that is, CBOR additional information 4, if CRC type is 2); in each case the sequence of bytes SHALL constitute an unsigned integer value (of 16 or 32 bits, respectively) in network byte order. This seems to preclude the possibility of any future CRC types being defined (without an update to this specification). Section 4.1.3 If the bundle's source node is omitted (i.e., the source node ID is the ID of the null endpoint, which has no members as discussed below; this option enables anonymous bundle transmission), then the bundle is not uniquely identifiable and all bundle protocol features that rely on bundle identity must therefore be disabled: the "Bundle must not be fragmented" flag value must be 1 and all status report request flag values must be zero. It's also impossible for the user application to acknowledge such an anonymous bundle, right, so that flag would also be zero? Or do such reports go to the "Report-to EID"? . Bits 21-63 are unassigned. Does this imply a mandatory encoding (width) of the CBOR unsigned integer representing the flags (and a hard limit on the number of possible flags)? Section 4.1.4 . This block must be replicated in every fragment. (Boolean) . Transmission of a status report is requested if this block can't be processed. (Boolean) . Block must be removed from the bundle if it can't be processed. (Boolean) . Bundle must be deleted if this block can't be processed. (Boolean) nit: perhaps we could reorder this list to match the order in which the bit flags are allocated? Section 18.104.22.168 Each BP endpoint ID (EID) SHALL be represented as a CBOR array comprising a 2-tuple. nit: Is there a reason to not just say "a CBOR array of two elements"? The first item of the array SHALL be the code number identifying the endpoint's URI scheme [URI], as defined in the registry of URI scheme code numbers for Bundle Protocol maintained by IANA as described in Section 10. [URIREG]. Each URI scheme code number I'm not sure why [URIREG] is the reference here; it has nothing to do with the "code numbers for Bundle Protocol". . If the EID's URI scheme is "ipn" then the SSP SHALL be represented as a CBOR array comprising a 2-tuple. The first [same comment about "two elements"] item of this array SHALL be the EID's node number represented as a CBOR unsigned integer. The second item of this array SHALL be the EID's service number represented as a CBOR unsigned integer. Where are node and service numbers defined? . Definitions of the CBOR representations of the SSPs of EIDs encoded in other URI schemes are included in the specifications defining those schemes. This feels kind of weird; the vast majority of URI schemes are not going to define CBOR encoding rules for their SSPs, but above we claim that bundle protocol is usable with any registered URI scheme. Absent some mechanism for a separate document from the scheme definition to specify the CBOR encoding rules for the SSP, these claims are incompatible. Section 22.214.171.124 . The EID of any singleton endpoint of which a node is a member MAY be used to identify that node. A "node ID" is an EID that is used in this way. . A node's membership in a given singleton endpoint MUST be sustained at least until the nominal operation of the Bundle Protocol no longer depends on the identification of that node using that endpoint's ID. Per the Discuss point, this feels like it's unworkable in practice; if we had a way to reliably distribute knowledge of which EIDs are usable as node IDs and/or are in use as node IDs, we could also use that mechanism to distribute lots of other useful things, like key material, revocation information, etc. Since we claim to not be able to do those things, it's a little boggling to see a claim that we can do this for node IDs. It kind of seems like we may have to make a fundamental distinction between "singleton EIDs" and "EIDs that may have multiple member nodes" in order to get these properties to be workable globally. Section 4.1.7 The second item of the array SHALL be the creation timestamp's sequence number, represented as a CBOR unsigned integer. We haven't introduced the term "sequence number" yet. Section 4.1.8 Block-type-specific data in each block (other than the primary block) SHALL be the applicable CBOR representation of the content of nit: as a stylistic matter, this qualification seems too important to relegate to a parenthetical. Section 4.2.1 We probably want to check for consistency between what's here and what's covered in the section-4 intro -- both use normative keywords, and Section 4 talks about the penultimate array item being the payload block, which we don't mention here. Section 4.2.2 The primary block of each bundle SHALL be immutable. The values of all fields in the primary block must remain unchanged from the time the block is created to the time it is delivered. Is there a technical mechanism that can enforce this? Lifetime: The lifetime field is an unsigned integer that indicates the time at which the bundle's payload will no longer be useful, encoded as a number of microseconds past the creation time. (For high-rate deployments with very brief disruptions, fine-grained expression of bundle lifetime may be useful.) When a bundle's age Does this mean that we assume that the creation time has microsecond accuracy as a reference even though it is only encoded with seconds-level precision? the CRC type. The CRC SHALL be computed over the concatenation of all bytes (including CBOR "break" characters) of the primary block including the CRC field itself, which for this purpose SHALL be temporarily populated with the value zero. nit: the CRC is a CBOR byte string; "the value zero" assumes an implied encoding of that byte string. Perhaps "all bytes zero" is better. Section 4.2.3 Every block other than the primary block (all such blocks are termed "canonical" blocks) SHALL be represented as a CBOR array; the number of elements in the array SHALL be 5 (if CRC type is zero) or 6 (otherwise). Is this an invariant that future-defined block types must also adhere to? computed over the concatenation of all bytes of the block (including CBOR "break" characters) including the CRC field itself, which for this purpose SHALL be temporarily populated with the value zero. [same comment as above re. "all bytes zero"] Section 4.3.2 The Bundle Age block, block type 7, contains the number of microseconds that have elapsed between the time the bundle was created and time at which it was most recently forwarded. It is (Are we again assuming the creation time to have microsecond accuracy even though the precision of representation is in seconds?) The block-type-specific data of this block is an unsigned integer containing the age of the bundle in microseconds, which SHALL be represented as a CBOR unsigned integer item. (The age of the bundle is the sum of all known intervals of the bundle's residence at forwarding nodes, up to the time at which the bundle was most recently forwarded, plus the summation of signal propagation time over all episodes of transmission between forwarding nodes. Determination of these values is an implementation matter.) If the I get that determination of these times will depend on the CLA(s) in use, but it sounds like we are making a hard requirement that an accurate value with microseconds precision is available? That seems like a pretty stringent requirement to place on the underlying transport technologies. bundle's creation time is zero, then the bundle MUST contain exactly one (1) occurrence of this type of block; otherwise, the bundle MAY contain at most one (1) occurrence of this type of block. A bundle MUST NOT contain multiple occurrences of the bundle age block, as this could result in processing anomalies. I'm a bit confused at the formal state of this extension block type. Up in Section 4.3 we said that not all nodes will implement processing or production of extension blocks, but this text is in the core spec and says that this extension block MUST be present under some conditions. Is this implicitly predicated on the implementation in question supporting Bundle Age, or is it a hard requirement? Section 4.3.3 Where do we discuss the consequences of nodes failing to implement the Hop Count extension block (as is apparently allowed by Section 4.3)? unsigned integer. A bundle MAY contain at most one (1) occurrence of this type of block. nit: I think this is "MAY contain this type of block" but "MUST contain at most 1 occurrence". Section 5.1 Note that requesting status reports for any single bundle might easily result in the generation of (1 + (2 *(N-1))) status report [(1 + (2 *(N-1))) might be more concisely expressed as ((2*N) -1).] . A "bundle reception status report" is a bundle status report with the "reporting node received bundle" flag set to 1. . A "bundle forwarding status report" is a bundle status report with the "reporting node forwarded the bundle" flag set to 1. . A "bundle delivery status report" is a bundle status report with the "reporting node delivered the bundle" flag set to 1. . A "bundle deletion status report" is a bundle status report with the "reporting node deleted the bundle" flag set to 1. These strings (the flag names) appear twice in the document: here and in Section 6.1.1; neither location explicitly says that it *defines* the flag values (though the latter does seem to actually do so, in the prose). Section 5.3 Step 1: If the bundle's destination endpoint is an endpoint of which the node is a member, the bundle delivery procedure defined in Section 5.7 MUST be followed and for the purposes of all subsequent processing of this bundle at this node the node's membership in the bundle's destination endpoint SHALL be disavowed; specifically, even though the node is a member of the bundle's destination endpoint, the node SHALL NOT undertake to forward the bundle to itself in the course of performing the procedure described in Section 5.4. The discussion so far in the document has not prepared me for the notion that a bundle would continue to be forwarded even after it has been delivered. Please put a description somewhere of why this might occur. (Also, nit(?): everything in this paragraph is contingent on the node being a member of the destination endpoint, right?) Section 5.4 Step 2: The bundle protocol agent MUST determine whether or not forwarding is contraindicated (that is, rendered inadvisable) for any of the reasons listed in Figure 4. In particular: I'm a bit confused by this wording, since Figure 4 is in essence a table of status report reason codes, i.e., values that appear on the wire in status report messages. The contents of that table are not, logically, actual *reasons*, but rather the protocol contants. It seems like it would be better to refer to some (possibly prose) description of the actual situations that would induce a "failure to forward" condition (and cause the generation of a report using one of those codes). Furthermore, Figure 4 only contains those codes that are currently defined; future extensions can define additional codes as well. (This is not the only place where Figure 4 is referenced as an alleged list of reasons to not forward.) Step 4: For each node selected for forwarding, the bundle protocol agent MUST invoke the services of the selected convergence layer adapter(s) in order to effect the sending of the bundle to that node. [...] I appreciate the proper use of effect(v) -- thanks! Determining the time at which the bundle protocol agent invokes convergence layer adapter services is a BPA implementation matter. Determining the time at which each convergence layer adapter subsequently responds to this service invocation by sending the bundle is a convergence-layer adapter implementation matter. I appreciate that the actual procedures involved will depend on the CLAs and, to large extent, BPA implementation, but without giving some requirements as to what properties are needed, this protocol is incomplete. I could make a BPA implementation that chooses to never invoke CLA services and that would comply with this text (yet would not be a usable implementation at all). . If the bundle contains a data label extension block (to be defined in a future document) then that data label value MAY identify procedures for determining the order in which This doesn't feel like it needs to be a normative "MAY" vs. descriptive "may". . If the bundle has a bundle age block, as defined in 4.3.2. above, then at the last possible moment before the CLA initiates conveyance of the bundle via the CL protocol the bundle age value MUST be increased by the difference between the current time and the time at which the bundle was received (or, if the local node is the source of the bundle, created). This does not seem to account for the transmission time from the previous node to this one, which was a required component in the definition of the bundle age. In that event, processing proceeds from Step 4 of Section 5.4. [This is Section 5.4, so this is self-referential.] If completion of the data sending procedures by all selected convergence layer adapters HAS resulted in successful forwarding of ["HAS" is not a BCP 14 keyword.] the bundle, or if it has not but the bundle protocol agent does not choose to initiate another attempt to forward the bundle, then: [...] endpoint ID. The reason code on this bundle forwarding status report MUST be "no additional information". It's kind of weird to use "no additional information" for both the "success" case and the "I just decided not to" case. Section 5.4.1 Otherwise, when -- at some future time - the forwarding of this nit: two hyphens for the second em dash. Section 5.6 Why is "Block unintelligible" used for both CRC failures and "extension not implemented"? Section 5.8 I suggest to replace "fragmented bundle" with "bundle being fragmented", for clarity. . Beyond these rules, replication of extension blocks in the fragments is an implementation matter. It seems prudent to give some indication of how the BPsec blocks are managed across fragmentation. Section 5.9 If the concatenation -- as informed by fragment offsets and payload lengths -- of the payloads of all previously received fragments with nit: talking about this as "concatenation of all fragment payloads" is a bit risky, since we admit the possibility of overlapping fragments; would it be better to talk about "recovering the full application-data-unit-length byte array by inserting fragment contents at the indicated offsets"? . This byte array -- the reassembled application data unit -- MUST replace the payload of this fragment. . The "Reassembly pending" retention constraint MUST be removed from every other fragment whose payload is a subset of the reassembled application data unit. Why is the last-received fragment special that it's payload is replaced by the entire payload? Wouldn't it make more sense to promote the fragment with offset zero, since that is guaranteed to have the right extension blocks? Section 6.1.1 There's a lot of nested arrays here; some examples would really help clarify the structure. Each item of the bundle status information array SHALL be a bundle status item represented as a CBOR array; the number of elements in each such array SHALL be either 2 (if the value of the first item of this bundle status item is 1 AND the "Report status time" flag was ["AND" is not a BCP 14 keyword] It's somewhat surprising to have several of the reason codes in the figure that appear with no accompanying prose discussion of when they might be used. With the presence of a "traffic pared" report code, one wonders if it might be worth defining a mechanism to consolidate multiple status reports, so that one might report (e.g.) paring several bundles in a single status report. Section 6.2 Step 1: The administrative record must be constructed. If the administrative record references a bundle and the referenced bundle is a fragment, the administrative record MUST contain the fragment offset and fragment length. To be clear: this is normative guidance that applies to all administrative record types that may be defined in the future? Section 7.2 . sending a bundle to a bundle node that is reachable via the convergence layer protocol; . notifying the bundle protocol agent when it has concluded its data sending procedures with regard to a bundle; . delivering to the bundle protocol agent a bundle that was sent by a bundle node via the convergence layer protocol. The convergence layer service interface specified here is neither exhaustive nor exclusive. That is, supplementary DTN protocol specifications (including, but not restricted to, the Bundle Security Protocol [BPSEC]) may expect convergence layer adapters that serve BP implementations conforming to those protocols to provide additional services such as reporting on the transmission and/or reception progress of individual bundles (at completion and/or incrementally), retransmitting data that were lost in How is "reporting on the transmission and/or reception progress of individual bundles" different from the bullet points above? Section 8 . the Bundle Protocol (BP, RFC 5050), . the Bundle Protocol version 7 specification draft (version 6), Is this still accurate? We're on version 21 of the draft, now, not version 6, and it rather defies belief that there have been no protocol-relevant changes since version -06. (I understand this will get removed before publication as an RFC, but it would be somewhat telling if the implementation efforts had stalled.) Section 9 Should we discuss the risk that the presence of "reassembly pending" retention constraints pose of a DoS on node storage, or do we think that's adequately covered already? Additionally, convergence-layer protocols that ensure authenticity of communication between adjacent nodes in BP network topology SHOULD be used where available, to minimize the ability of "Authenticity of communication" requires some sense of identity and credentials associated thereto; with the current formulation of node identities as EID URIs, I'm not sure what sort of credentials would be used for this purpose. Can you give some examples? different blocks. One possible variation is to sign and/or encrypt blocks using symmetric keys securely formed by Diffie-Hellman procedures (such as EKDH) using the public and private keys of the sending and receiving nodes. For this purpose, the key distribution problem reduces to the problem of trustworthy delay-tolerant distribution of public keys, a current research topic. It's important to inject some fresh entropy when using static-static DH for key generation, as otherwise the problems from cryptographic key reuse become basically unbearable. Section 10.1 Technically we're codepoint squatting for the new allocations here (unless we say that these are "suggested values"), in a specification-required registry. I assume the experts (as authors/shepherd) are aware of this work and would not allocate the requested codepoints to another document, though, so I am not making this a Discuss point. | 6 | 4 | Payload Confidentiality Blk | [RFC6257] | We already have rows that spill over to another line; spelling out "Block" as is done in the current registry contents seems best. Section 10.3 Why is RFC-to-be listed as a reference for bits 7-13 when the applicable version is only 6 (not 7)? Section 10.5 [same note about codepoint-squatting] | 6,7 | 5 | Destination endpoint ID |[RFC5050],| | | | unintelligible |RFC-to-be | The current wording is "Destination endpoint ID unavailable", so this is requesting a content change. | 6,7 | 8 | Block unintelligible |[RFC6255],| | | | |RFC-to-be | The registry currently shows RFC 5050 as a reference, not RFC 6255. | 6 | 255 | Reserved |[RFC6255] | Not also RFc-to-be? Section 10.6 The Bundle Protocol has a URI scheme type field - an unsigned integer of undefined length - for which IANA is requested to create (All CBOR unsigned integers are of "indefinite" (variable) length. Also note that RFC 7049 prefers to use "indefinite length" over "undefined length", but also that 7049 does not use "indefinite length" for integers.) | 1 | dtn | RFC-to-be | | 2 | ipn | [RFC6260] | Why is "ipn" left with RFC6260 as the reference even though we are updating its registration in this document just as we are for "dtn"? Section 10.7 (and with minimal changes, 10.8) dtn-hier-part = "//" node-name name-delim demux ; a path-rootless Is there supposed to be more (or less) to that comment? receives the bundle. In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity before operating on it in any way. How is this possible in the absence of BPSEC? Does this imply a recommendation or requirement to implement BPSEC? Section 11.1 [BPSEC] Birrane, E., "Bundle Security Protocol Specification", Work In Progress, October 2015. I agree with the directorate reviewer that we need to give a more concrete reference here (e.g., draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec) Section 11.2 The way in which we reference [UTC] is arguably normative. Appendix B start = bundle / #6.55799(bundle) This is the tag for "self-describe [sic] CBOR" per RFC 7049; did Carsten make any indication that a more specific tag could/should be allocated for BP? ; The root bundle array bundle = [primary-block, *extension-block, payload-block] I see that CDDL does not have provisions for noting indefinite- vs. definite-length encoding, so a comment here might be in order. bundleflagbits = &( reserved: 21, [...] RFC 8610 seems to suggest that omitting reserved bits may be appropriate (to disallow them from being set within this CDDL model). (Similarly for the blockflagbits.)
I looked up RFC 4838 and there is a section on congestion control, however it only says: "Congestion control is an ongoing research topic." Unfortunately this document also doesn't give any further advise about congestion control but as a PS it really should. I understand that the bundle protocol is basically an application layer protocol on top of a transport that should care about congestion control, however, the document doesn't talk much about anything related to that underlying protocol. It would be important to specify requirements for the underlying transport protocol, indicating that is must be congestion controlled or rate limited (see RFC8085 as a reference for rate limiting of (uni-direction) UDP-based protocols). Further this sentence in Sec 5.1 needs more clarification: “For this reason, the generation of status reports MUST be disabled by default and enabled only when the risk of excessive network traffic is deemed acceptable.” It is not clear when it makes sense to enable and if enables one should probably also implement some filtering and rate limiting.
1) One general comment on the style of the document: I found it actually quite hard to read. I think it would help to add some overview text from time to time instead of going into all the details right away. E.g. maybe provide some kind of short summary/overview at the beginning of section 5 like the “Life cycle of a bundle“. In contrast I think you could cut down the section on concepts a bit (move some the implementation related notes to the appendix). Further, compared to the previous RFC, now that CBOR is used the text because actually more abstract. I think it would actually help to put CDDL fragment in body of document. 2) Sec 4.1.3 and 4.1.4: Maybe use normative language here for all or most of the musts, e.g. s/then all status report request flag values must be zero/then all status report request flag values MUST be zero/ 3) Quick question on Sec 4.2.2: “Version number SHALL be represented as a CBOR unsigned integer item.” The document says that this version is not backward compatible. Is the version number the only field that can be used to identify the bundle protocol?
I am looking forward for this document to be finished and approved as an RFC. Before I can recommend this, I have several DISCUSS points and comments that I would like to address: 1) Retry strategies are listed as out-of-scope for this document. This is not sufficient for writing an interoperable implementation, unless there is a separate document that provides such details. Below I describe 1 remaining relevant place in the text and suggest some possible ways of addressing my DISCUSS: Step 5: When all selected convergence layer adapters have informed the bundle protocol agent that they have concluded their data sending procedures with regard to this bundle, processing may depend on the results of those procedures. If completion of the data sending procedures by all selected convergence layer adapters has not resulted in successful forwarding of the bundle (an implementation-specific determination that is beyond the scope of this specification), then the bundle protocol agent MAY choose (in an implementation-specific manner, again beyond the scope of this specification) to initiate another attempt to forward the bundle. Similar to the above: retries affect interoperability and should be documented as description of a convergence layer document. I think you need to add this as a requirement to section 7 ("Services Required of the Convergence Layer"). In that event, processing proceeds from Step 4 of Section 5.4. [Two other cases were addressed in -23] 2) [Addressed in -23] 3) [Addressed in -23]
********************************************************************** * Note, that I am conducting an experiment when people aspiring to be* * Area Directors get exposed to AD work ("AD shadowing experiment"). * * As a part of this experiment they get to review documents on IESG * * telechats according to IESG Discuss criteria document and their * * comments get relayed pretty much verbatim to relevant editors/WGs. * * As an AD I retain responsibility in defending their position when * * I agree with it. * * Recipients of these reviews are encouraged to reply to me directly * * about perceived successes or failures of this experiment. * ********************************************************************** I also have some comments on Benjamin's comments below marked with "[[Alexey]]:" The following comments were provided by Benjamin Schwartz <firstname.lastname@example.org>: Benjamin would have balloted *DISCUSS* on this document. He wrote: This draft’s content seems sound but the text is difficult to understand and needs some editorial improvements. ## Abstract Nit: Abstract should be before status. Nit: “specification for Bundle Protocol” -> “for the Bundle Protocol”. ## Section 1 Title: If this document doesn’t describe the operation, routing, or management of bundles, maybe it doesn’t describe a complete protocol. Consider retitling to “Bundle Protocol Version 7: Format and Architecture” [[Alexey]]: This relates to my DISCUSS points, but my DISCUSS position is stronger than this statement. ## Section 4.1.3 Nit: It would be clearer to move the reserved and unassigned flags to an IANA considerations section, here and throughout. ## Section 4 Phrasing: “The last item of the array ... SHALL be a CBOR "break" stop code.” This seems like a misuse of the word “item”. I would suggest “The array SHALL be terminated by a CBOR “break” stop code.” Similarly in Section 4.2.1. ## Section 4.1.4 Clarity: The “(Boolean)” specifiers seem redundant. What is a non-boolean flag? Clarity: The two lists here seem redundant. Can they be collapsed? Clarity: The phrasing “...the value of the "Transmit status report if block can't be processed" flag in every canonical block…” suggests that these flags should be named or numbered before attempting to describe them. ## Section 126.96.36.199 These two sentences seem contradictory: * “Any scheme conforming to [URIREG] may be used in a bundle protocol endpoint ID.” * “The first item of the array SHALL be the code number identifying the endpoint's URI scheme [URI], as defined in the registry of URI scheme code numbers” Please rephrase. [[Alexey]]: This is similar to Roman's DISCUSS. ## Section 5.4.2 Consistency: This section relies on the presence of a Previous Node block, but nothing in the forwarding procedure instructs any agent to add a Previous Node block. Correctness: If two nodes both opt to return failed bundles, how are they to avoid a ping-pong loop? [[Alexey]]: I included these in the DISCUSS portion of my ballot. ##Section 5.6 Error handling: What about CBOR parsing failures? [[Alexey]]: I included these in the DISCUSS portion of my ballot. ## Section 5.8 Clarity: The insistence, here and earlier, that a bundle is only fragmented into two packets, and that this can then be performed recursively, seems unhelpful. Bundles can be fragmented into arbitrarily many pieces, and this binary subdivision concept is not actually present in the protocol. I suggest removing it from the text as well. ## Section 6.1 Formatting: This table is excessive for a single value. Clarity: The text specifies the contents twice, which is unhelpful for comprehension. ## Section 10 Formatting: The extra line breaks in the vertical dividers are distracting. Please fill them in or remove the breaks if possible.
§10.3/§10.4: The registration policy for this namespace is changed to "Standards Action". Given the limited number of bits available, the allocation should only be granted for a standards-track RFC approved by the IESG. The original BP work (rfc5050) is a product of the IRTF. The new registration policy blocks the ability for anyone outside the IETF to register new values. I understand the need to conserve resources, and the intent to Obsolete rfc5050 in a separate document, which should mean that future work on the BP is done in the IETF. That process hasn't been done yet. I am balloting DISCUSS on this point of the process so that the needed steps can catch up and the group of documents can progress together. [Note that changing the registration policy to allow work from outside the IETF to use the registries would also lead me to clear this DISCUSS. However, I don't think that is necessary.]
I support Ben's DISCUSS.
Holding discuss to ensure IANA is satisfied.
I support Benjamin's first DISCUSS point. The registration templates in 10.7 and 10.8 should include email@example.com as the contact information for the change controller.
I support the Sec ADs’ DISCUSS and comment points. I have only a small thing to add to what’s already been said: — Section 1 — You mention RFC5050 several times here, but it isn’t actually cited as a reference until Section 10.1. You would normally put it in as a citation the first time, at the beginning of Section 1, and I think you should.
Thank you for the work put into this document. And it is a really interesting topic ! The document is not really easy to read with some long and convoluted sentence such as "An application data unit is the unit of data whose conveyance to the bundle's destination is the purpose for the transmission of some bundle that is not a fragment (as defined below)." Another one: "The payload for a bundle forwarded in response to reception of a bundle is the payload of the received bundle." The above sentences and others make the reading really difficult. Probably too late to change now... The section 3.2 go a little too deep IMHO in details (do we care whether the BPA is general-purpose computer?) As a side note, I would be interested by the potential use of this bundle protocol to transport the future webpack ;-) Please find below some non-blocking COMMENTs. C1) is there any reason why the reserved bits in section 4.3.1 are not specified with the usual 'transmitted as 0 and ignored by receiver' ? C2) in section 4.1.5, is there a registry or a mechanism to avoid / detect identifier collisions ? C3) just curious, why is it version 7 ? C4) in section 4.3.2, if the bundle age is expressed in microseconds, then I would suggest to define exactly 'most recently forwarded': by which component of the bundle node ? is it measured at the completion of the action (e.g., layer-2 serialization is finished). Section 5.4 adds some more information but not enough to my taste (is it when the forwarding decision is made or when the convergence layer has accepted it). C5) in section 4.3.3., why not following the usual method of hop-limit starting at a non-zero value and being decremented at each forwarding operation ? it is like using DTN time from 2000 rather than the usual timestamp definition. Nothing bad or blocking, but, I wonder why re-inventing the wheel if there is no real reason C6) the possibility of having a single bundle to generate multiple reports along its path to the 'report-to' endpoint ID per section 5.6 could possibly be used for an amplification attacks + resource exhaustion attack on traversed nodes. Should a rate limiting be mentionned ? C7) section 5.9, should the re-assembly process time out ? E.g., taking into account the max bundle age ? C8) section 8, I have hard time to parse the following "the Bundle Protocol version 7 specification draft (version 6)" even if I think I got it right C9) section 8, an interop status (if any) between the three existing implementations would be welcome I hope that this helps to improve the document, Regards, -éric