Signaling Maximum SID Depth (MSD) Using the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State
draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-18
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2024-01-26
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18 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request closed, assignment withdrawn: Ron Bonica Last Call OPSDIR review |
2024-01-26
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18 | Gunter Van de Velde | Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events': Cleaning up stale OPSDIR queue |
2020-08-07
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2020-06-19
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2020-05-18
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2020-05-18
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2020-05-14
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2020-05-14
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18 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2020-05-14
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18 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2020-05-14
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18 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2020-05-14
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18 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2020-05-14
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18 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2020-05-14
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18 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2020-05-14
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18 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2020-05-14
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18 | Alvaro Retana | Ballot approval text was generated |
2020-05-08
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18 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-05-08
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18 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-18.txt |
2020-05-08
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18 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jeff Tantsura) |
2020-05-08
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18 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-05-07
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17 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2020-05-07
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17 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Robert Wilton |
2020-05-06
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17 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot comment] For some reason this document feels very familiar to me -- I feel like I read it a few months ago, but I … [Ballot comment] For some reason this document feels very familiar to me -- I feel like I read it a few months ago, but I cannot find anything in the document history / my ballots... Anyway, NoObj. |
2020-05-06
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17 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Warren Kumari |
2020-05-06
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17 | Martin Vigoureux | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux |
2020-05-06
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17 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2020-05-06
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17 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2020-05-06
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17 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2020-05-06
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17 | Éric Vyncke | Request closed, assignment withdrawn: Ron Bonica Telechat INTDIR review |
2020-05-06
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17 | Éric Vyncke | Closed request for Telechat review by INTDIR with state 'Withdrawn': Request has expired and INT AD has balloted his review. No need to do a … Closed request for Telechat review by INTDIR with state 'Withdrawn': Request has expired and INT AD has balloted his review. No need to do a further review albeit I am sure that authors will read and act on useful review. |
2020-05-06
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17 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] Thank you for the work put into this document. The document is easy to read albeit a little unclear about its focus (see … [Ballot comment] Thank you for the work put into this document. The document is easy to read albeit a little unclear about its focus (see my comments below). I am always positively amazed how BGP can be used as a signaling protocol for new use cases :-) Please find below a couple of non-blocking COMMENTs. I hope that this helps to improve the document, Regards, -éric == COMMENTS == -- Section 1 -- In "doesn't exceed the number of SIDs the node is capable of imposing.", is it "imposing" or "processing" ? Esp. when section 1.1.1 uses the word "supported" and "label imposition" does not really fit SRv6. If this document is only about SR-MPLS, then please modify title, abstract, and introduction to reflect this focus. -- Section 3 -- Unsure whether "MSD values may be learned via a hardware API or may be provisioned. " provides any added value. While it is unclear to me whether this document applies only to SR-MPLS, but, if it applies also to SRv6, then is it required to be able to advertise to MSD per node ? One for SR-MPLS and one for SRv6? |
2020-05-06
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17 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2020-05-06
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17 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2020-05-06
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17 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2020-05-05
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17 | Erik Kline | [Ballot comment] [[ nits ]] [ section 3 & 4 ] * MSD-Value: Perhaps a small explicit statement that this value in units of … [Ballot comment] [[ nits ]] [ section 3 & 4 ] * MSD-Value: Perhaps a small explicit statement that this value in units of SIDs of type MSD-Type. |
2020-05-05
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17 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2020-05-05
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17 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2020-05-04
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17 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] Not a whole lot of interesting comments on this one; it seems like a pretty straightforward codepoint allocation with relevant (security and other) … [Ballot comment] Not a whole lot of interesting comments on this one; it seems like a pretty straightforward codepoint allocation with relevant (security and other) considerations covered in other documents. I do appreciate the discussion in the security considerations section; it looks good. This document talks about the MSD as being the depth of a stack that a given node can "impose". Is there a similar consideration (or protocol element) for what a given node can read/process? (I think I remember such a document going by, but don't have enough keywords to search for it efficiently.) Is there a specific error-handling behavior to use when a Node MSD TLV is received with a value larger than the value of a Link MSD TLV associated with that node (for the same MSD-type)? Is that one of the things "left to the consumer of the BGP-LS information" by Sectoin 7? Section 1 In the future, it is expected that new MSD-Types will be defined to signal additional capabilities, e.g., ELs, SIDs that can be imposed through recirculation, or SIDs associated with another data plane such as IPv6. MSD advertisements may be useful even if SR itself is not enabled. For example, in a non-SR MPLS network, MSD defines the maximum label depth. It's slightly interesting that we still call it "MSD" even though there are potential uses in a broader scope. Perhaps just a historical legacy and we need to remain consistent with the name in common use... Though, perhaps the terminology section in this document does not need to be quite so constrained by the past. Section 3 identified by the corresponding Router-ID. Node MSD is the smallest MSD supported by the node on the set of interfaces configured for use. MSD values may be learned via a hardware API or may be It is a shame that the semantics are already locked in (as was noted by a previous review that I can't find right now?) and the efficient encoding of "large per-node value with smaller per-link values for exceptions" is not admissible. Section 5 MSD-type is not supported. The correct interpretation MUST be specified when an MSD-type is defined in [RFC8491]. Is this "is defined in the registry defined in [RFC8491]" or "is defined according to the procedures in [RFC8491]" or something else? The current text doesn't scan properly, as it implies that a future new MSD-type will be defined in RFC 8491, an immutable document. Section 7 Specifically, the malformed attribute tests for syntactic checks in the Fault Management section of [RFC7752] now encompass the new BGP- LS Attribute TLVs defined in this document. [...] Interestingly, the referenced section of 7752 does not seem to explicitly say that other invariant properties of TLV lengths (e.g., that they must be a multiple of 2 as for the ones defined by this document) should be checked. [RFC7752]. The MSD information introduced in BGP-LS by this specification, may be used by BGP-LS consumer applications like a SR path computation engine (PCE) to learn the SR SID stack handling https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt lists "PCE" as having a well-known expansion to "Path Computation Element" (not "engine") that can be used directly in abbreviated form without any expansion given. Section 8 issues when propagating the TLVs into BGP-LS. The advertisement of the node and link attribute information defined in this document presents no additional risk beyond that associated with the existing node and link attribute information already supported in [RFC7752]. I'd suggest hedging to "no significant additional risk", though I do not have an example of additional marginal risk at hand. |
2020-05-04
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17 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk |
2020-04-26
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17 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2020-04-26
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17 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-17.txt |
2020-04-26
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17 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jeff Tantsura) |
2020-04-26
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17 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-04-25
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16 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot comment] Just some nits: Section 1: * "... and controller does not participate ..." -- should be "the controller" Section 1.1.1: * Though the … [Ballot comment] Just some nits: Section 1: * "... and controller does not participate ..." -- should be "the controller" Section 1.1.1: * Though the term "PCC" is in this glossary, it is not used anywhere in this document. Section 7: * "The extensions specified in this document, do not specify ..." -- remove the comma |
2020-04-25
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16 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
2020-04-24
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16 | Martin Duke | [Ballot comment] Update: Alvaro says the design below is inherited from other specs, and cannot be changed. ==== This is not a DISCUSS-level concern, but … [Ballot comment] Update: Alvaro says the design below is inherited from other specs, and cannot be changed. ==== This is not a DISCUSS-level concern, but I found it odd that the Node MSD TLV must be the minimum of all configured interfaces without regard for the presence of any Link MSD TLVs. For example, if all node interfaces have an MSD of 20 except one with an MSD of 10, it would be much more compact to advertise a Node MSD of 20 and a single Link MSD of 10. Section 5 says the Link MSD would take precedence, so there would be no information loss. As I understand the spec, this would not be allowed, and each link would have to be advertised separately to gain that level of granularity. If this is not the intent, then in Section 3, extending a sentence to say "Node MSD is the smallest MSD supported by the node on the set of interfaces configured for use, [excepting links advertised with their own Link MSD TLV]" would avoid the problem. |
2020-04-24
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16 | Martin Duke | Ballot comment text updated for Martin Duke |
2020-04-24
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16 | Martin Duke | [Ballot comment] This is not a DISCUSS-level concern, but I found it odd that the Node MSD TLV must be the minimum of all configured … [Ballot comment] This is not a DISCUSS-level concern, but I found it odd that the Node MSD TLV must be the minimum of all configured interfaces without regard for the presence of any Link MSD TLVs. For example, if all node interfaces have an MSD of 20 except one with an MSD of 10, it would be much more compact to advertise a Node MSD of 20 and a single Link MSD of 10. Section 5 says the Link MSD would take precedence, so there would be no information loss. As I understand the spec, this would not be allowed, and each link would have to be advertised separately to gain that level of granularity. If this is not the intent, then in Section 3, extending a sentence to say "Node MSD is the smallest MSD supported by the node on the set of interfaces configured for use, [excepting links advertised with their own Link MSD TLV]" would avoid the problem. |
2020-04-24
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16 | Martin Duke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Duke |
2020-04-23
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16 | Carlos Jesús Bernardos | Request for Telechat review by INTDIR is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2020-04-23
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16 | Carlos Jesús Bernardos | Request for Telechat review by INTDIR is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2020-04-22
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16 | Carlos Pignataro | Assignment of request for Telechat review by INTDIR to Carlos Pignataro was rejected |
2020-04-22
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16 | Carlos Jesús Bernardos | Request for Telechat review by INTDIR is assigned to Carlos Pignataro |
2020-04-22
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16 | Carlos Jesús Bernardos | Request for Telechat review by INTDIR is assigned to Carlos Pignataro |
2020-04-21
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16 | Éric Vyncke | Requested Telechat review by INTDIR |
2020-04-20
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16 | Amy Vezza | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2020-05-07 |
2020-04-20
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16 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2020-04-20
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Ballot has been issued |
2020-04-20
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16 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2020-04-20
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Created "Approve" ballot |
2020-04-20
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Ballot writeup was changed |
2020-04-17
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16 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2020-04-17
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16 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-16. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-16. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the BGP-LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs registry on the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ two temporary registrations will be made permanent and their references changed to [ RFC-to-be ]. The two temporary registrations are: +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+-------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | Reference | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+-------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | [ RFC-to-be ] | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | [ RFC-to-be ] | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+-------------------+ The IANA Functions Operator understands that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist |
2020-04-17
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16 | Min Ye | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Mach Chen. |
2020-04-17
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16 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2020-04-16
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16 | Jouni Korhonen | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Jouni Korhonen. Sent review to list. |
2020-04-15
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16 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Radia Perlman. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
2020-04-10
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16 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Radia Perlman. |
2020-04-07
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16 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2020-04-07
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16 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2020-04-03
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16 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Radia Perlman |
2020-04-03
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16 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Radia Perlman |
2020-04-03
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16 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Jouni Korhonen |
2020-04-03
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16 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Jouni Korhonen |
2020-04-03
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16 | Min Ye | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR is assigned to Mach Chen |
2020-04-03
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16 | Min Ye | Request for Last Call review by RTGDIR is assigned to Mach Chen |
2020-04-02
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16 | Cindy Morgan | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2020-04-02
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16 | Cindy Morgan | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2020-04-17): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd@ietf.org, idr@ietf.org, Susan Hares , shares@ndzh.com, … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2020-04-17): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd@ietf.org, idr@ietf.org, Susan Hares , shares@ndzh.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, idr-chairs@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Signaling MSD (Maximum SID Depth) using Border Gateway Protocol - Link State) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Inter-Domain Routing WG (idr) to consider the following document: - 'Signaling MSD (Maximum SID Depth) using Border Gateway Protocol - Link State' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-04-17. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ |
2020-04-02
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16 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Requested Last Call review by RTGDIR |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Last call was requested |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Ballot approval text was generated |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Ballot writeup was generated |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Last call announcement was changed |
2020-04-02
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16 | Alvaro Retana | Last call announcement was generated |
2020-03-30
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16 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-03-30
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16 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-16.txt |
2020-03-30
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16 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-03-30
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16 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Jeff Tantsura , Greg Mirsky , Ketan Talaulikar , Uma Chunduri |
2020-03-30
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16 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-03-13
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15 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2020-03-09
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15 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-15.txt |
2020-03-09
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15 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-03-09
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15 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Jeff Tantsura , Uma Chunduri , Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , Ketan Talaulikar |
2020-03-09
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15 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-03-09
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14 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-03-09
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14 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-14.txt |
2020-03-09
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14 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-03-09
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14 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Ketan Talaulikar , Jeff Tantsura , Nikos Triantafillis , Uma Chunduri , Gregory Mirsky |
2020-03-09
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14 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-03-06
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13 | Alvaro Retana | A revision is needed to address the collection of BGP information (not just IGP-originated). |
2020-03-06
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13 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2020-03-03
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13 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-13.txt |
2020-03-03
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13 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jeff Tantsura) |
2020-03-03
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13 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-03-03
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12 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is … Template date: 24 February 2012. ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. No additional vendors indicated a plan to implement the IDR MSD feature. However, there is support for this feature in SR in the LSR WG. Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? RTG-DIR: Mach Chen If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana RTG-DIR early review: Mach Chen (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt, -08.txt) Current text in shepherd: The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA: Mach Chen Ready. Minor nits he mentioned addressed in -08.txt If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No. The WG has been asked about (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. This is a normal SR draft so the following suggestions are made for the reviewers: RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support of the SR function. To this shepherd, MSD seems to improve the manageability of the SR functions in a network. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG. WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative or informative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2020-03-01
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12 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-12.txt |
2020-03-01
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12 | (System) | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Jeff Tantsura) |
2020-03-01
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12 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-02-28
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11 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-11.txt |
2020-02-28
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11 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-02-28
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11 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Gregory Mirsky , Nikos Triantafillis , Uma Chunduri , Jeff Tantsura , Ketan Talaulikar |
2020-02-28
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11 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-02-28
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10 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-02-28
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10 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-10.txt |
2020-02-28
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10 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-02-28
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10 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Uma Chunduri , Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , idr-chairs@ietf.org, Jeff Tantsura , Ketan Talaulikar |
2020-02-28
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10 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2020-02-26
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09 | Alvaro Retana | === AD Review of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-09 === https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/uiTEbxlhsfGX_A5D7RQRrrRuA-M/ |
2020-02-26
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09 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2020-02-21
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09 | Alvaro Retana | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2020-02-21
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09 | Alvaro Retana | Notification list changed to Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, aretana.ietf@gmail.com from Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> |
2019-10-18
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09 | Gunter Van de Velde | Assignment of request for Early review by OPSDIR to Al Morton was marked no-response |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is … Template date: 24 February 2012. ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. No additional vendors indicated a plan to implement the IDR MSD feature. However, there is support for this feature in SR in the LSR WG. Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? RTG-DIR: Mach Chen If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana RTG-DIR early review: Mach Chen (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt, -08.txt) Current text in shepherd: The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA: Mach Chen Ready. Minor nits he mentioned addressed in -08.txt If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No. The WG has been asked about (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. This is a normal SR draft so the following suggestions are made for the reviewers: RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support of the SR function. To this shepherd, MSD seems to improve the manageability of the SR functions in a network. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU Please note that the IPR on this feature may preclude open source implementations from creating it. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG. WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | Responsible AD changed to Alvaro Retana |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway cleared. |
2019-10-15
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09 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is … Template date: 24 February 2012. ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. No additional vendors indicated a plan to implement the IDR MSD feature. However, there is support for this feature in SR in the LSR WG. Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? RTG-DIR: Mach Chen If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana RTG-DIR early review: Mach Chen (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt, -08.txt) Current text in shepherd: The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA: Mach Chen Ready. Minor nits he mentioned addressed in -08.txt If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No. The WG has been asked about (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. This is a normal SR draft so the following suggestions are made for the reviewers: RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support of the SR function. To this shepherd, MSD seems to improve the manageability of the SR functions in a network. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU Please note that the IPR on this feature may preclude open source implementations from creating it. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG. WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2019-10-15
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09 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-09.txt |
2019-10-15
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09 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-10-15
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09 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , Ketan Talaulikar , Uma Chunduri , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-10-15
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09 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-10-14
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08 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Awaiting: -09.txt with downrefs resolved ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, … Template date: 24 February 2012. Awaiting: -09.txt with downrefs resolved ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. No additional vendors indicated a plan to implement the IDR MSD feature. However, there is support for this feature in SR in the LSR WG. Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? RTG-DIR: Mach Chen If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana RTG-DIR early review: Mach Chen (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt, -08.txt) Current text in shepherd: The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA: Mach Chen Ready. Minor nits he mentioned addressed in -08.txt If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No. The WG has been asked about (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. This is a normal SR draft so the following suggestions are made for the reviewers: RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support of the SR function. To this shepherd, MSD seems to improve the manageability of the SR functions in a network. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU Please note that the IPR on this feature may preclude open source implementations from creating it. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG. WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2019-09-17
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08 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-08.txt |
2019-09-17
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08 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-17
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08 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , Ketan Talaulikar , Uma Chunduri , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-09-17
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08 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-15
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07 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Mach Chen. |
2019-09-11
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07 | Susan Hares | awaiting early QA reports |
2019-09-11
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07 | Susan Hares | Tags Other - see Comment Log, Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WG cleared. |
2019-09-11
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07 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Wiki ok, IDR question on planned MSD implementations Shepherd's review of -07.txt: Ok Awaiting QA reviews: … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Wiki ok, IDR question on planned MSD implementations Shepherd's review of -07.txt: Ok Awaiting QA reviews: RTG-DIR (9/14), OPS-DIR: (overdue) ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. [TBD -based on call] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [TBD - awaiting RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR early review] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana OPS-DIR early reviewer: Al Morton RTG-DIR early review: TBD (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt(pending)) Current text in shepherd: [-06.txt version] The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [Al Morton] [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] - after RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Early review (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG: (TBD) WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2019-09-11
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07 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Wiki ok, IDR question on planned MSD implementations Shepherd's review of -07.txt: Ok Awaiting QA reviews: … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Wiki ok, IDR question on planned MSD implementations Shepherd's review of -07.txt: Ok Awaiting QA reviews: RTG-DIR (9/14), OPS-DIR: (overdue) ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. [TBD -based on call] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [TBD - awaiting RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR early review] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana OPS-DIR early reviewer: Al Morton RTG-DIR early review: TBD (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt(pending)) Current text in shepherd: [-06.txt version] The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [Al Morton] [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] - after RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Early review (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG: (TBD) WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2019-09-11
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07 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-07.txt |
2019-09-11
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-11
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , Ketan Talaulikar , Uma Chunduri , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-09-11
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07 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-11
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06 | Susan Hares | Waiting for -07.txt and for 2 reviews (OPS-DIR, RTG-DIR) |
2019-09-11
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06 | Susan Hares | Waiting for -07.txt and for 2 reviews (OPS-DIR, RTG-DIR) |
2019-09-11
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06 | Susan Hares | Tags Other - see Comment Log, Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WG, Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway set. |
2019-09-11
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06 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Wiki ok, IDR question on planned MSD implementations Shepherd's review of -06: Needs -07.txt Awaiting QA … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Wiki ok, IDR question on planned MSD implementations Shepherd's review of -06: Needs -07.txt Awaiting QA reviews: RTG-DIR, OPS-DIR ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. see report at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd%20implementations Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Additional vendors with segment routing implementations have indicated they which to add the MSD feature. [TBD -based on call] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [TBD - awaiting RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR early review] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana OPS-DIR early reviewer: Al Morton RTG-DIR early review: TBD (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt, -07.txt(pending)) Current text in shepherd: [-06.txt version] The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. Needs draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 reference and clarified management based on yang models. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [Al Morton] [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] - after RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Early review (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. RFC7752 is being revised by IDR to clarify sections in the draft based on implementation experience. Rushing RFC7752bis to completion is unwise since it takes careful review of the implementation reports to address the places where RFC7752 is unclear. RFC7752 and segment routing (SR) are in use with centralized controllers. This specification addresses a known need in deployed SR. Therefore it is unwise to hold this specification back or hurry RFC7752bis. There may not be substantial discussion on this point because the people developing BGP and the people operating BGP realize we have a balancing act as we deploy segment routing features. We must balance sending forward features that aid deployments and clarify the RFC752bis specification so that new implementations may be interoperable with existing implementations. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG: (TBD) WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions. References to all Yang models have been checked. |
2019-09-05
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06 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-06.txt |
2019-09-05
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-05
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , Ketan Talaulikar , Uma Chunduri , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-09-05
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06 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-08-29
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05 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Mach Chen |
2019-08-29
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05 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Mach Chen |
2019-08-29
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05 | Min Ye | Assignment of request for Early review by RTGDIR to Ron Bonica was marked no-response |
2019-08-15
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05 | Susan Hares | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2019-08-14
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05 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2019-08-14
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05 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Ron Bonica |
2019-08-14
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05 | Min Ye | Assignment of request for Early review by RTGDIR to Manav Bhatia was rejected |
2019-08-13
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Early review by OPSDIR is assigned to Al Morton |
2019-08-13
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Early review by OPSDIR is assigned to Al Morton |
2019-08-11
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05 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Manav Bhatia |
2019-08-11
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05 | Min Ye | Request for Early review by RTGDIR is assigned to Manav Bhatia |
2019-08-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Only 2 Cisco implementations, need full implementation (MUST/Should/Etc) in report (8/8 to 8/15) Shepherd's review of … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Only 2 Cisco implementations, need full implementation (MUST/Should/Etc) in report (8/8 to 8/15) Shepherd's review of -06: TBD Awaiting QA reviews: RTG-DIR, OPS-DIR ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. No details are available on the SHOULD/MAY/MUST. Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? [Shepherd todo: Ask on WG LC] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [Shepherd todo: Start QA review from RTG-DIR] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending RTG-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt (pending) The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. I would prefer if draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-00 is assumed as an accompanying document for this work to provide the required error handling. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. [TBD] - Must have draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 as WG document. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] - after RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Early review (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. [TBD] (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG: (TBD) WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. |
2019-08-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Only 2 Cisco implementations, need full implementation (MUST/Should/Etc) in report (8/8 to 8/15) Shepherd's review of … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do Implementation status: Only 2 Cisco implementations, need full implementation (MUST/Should/Etc) in report (8/8 to 8/15) Shepherd's review of -06: TBD Awaiting QA reviews: RTG-DIR, OPS-DIR ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco WG LC is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? WG consensus was postive with indications of that this feature was needed in BGP-LS neworks. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. No details are available on the SHOULD/MAY/MUST. Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? [Shepherd todo: Ask on WG LC] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [Shepherd todo: Start QA review from RTG-DIR] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? OPS-DIR early review requested: pending RTG-DIR early review requested: pending Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run on each version. 2. Review of entire document and dependents (-04.txt, -05.txt, -06.txt (pending) The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. I would prefer if draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-00 is assumed as an accompanying document for this work to provide the required error handling. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. [TBD] - Must have draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-00 as WG document. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] - after RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Early review (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. [TBD] (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ WG Call for the WG approval of IPR on drafts: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 11 people indicated a strong support. There are 2 Cisco interoperable implementations. WG Approval of 2 Cisco implementations to send to IESG: (TBD) WG response is at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lKmYs5G7OrbgjCTHivz3iIQ7LNU (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No public appeals or discontent on mail list. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. No formal review. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. |
2019-08-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Requested Early review by RTGDIR |
2019-08-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Requested Early review by OPSDIR |
2019-07-25
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05 | Susan Hares | WG LC to end on 8/8/2019. n |
2019-07-25
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05 | Susan Hares | Tag Other - see Comment Log cleared. |
2019-06-09
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05 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do IPR Status: Before WG LC: Need all IPR statements, complete implementation report, query to WG on 2 IPR … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do IPR Status: Before WG LC: Need all IPR statements, complete implementation report, query to WG on 2 IPR Implementation status: Only 2 Cisco implementations, need full implementation (MUST/Should/Etc) WG LC: questions: Any planned implementations? Are cisco implementatnios enough Shepherd status: Need QA review by RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Shepherd review: Pre-WG LC and post-WG LC needed ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? [TBD] Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. No details are available on the SHOULD/MAY/MUST. [Shepherd todo: Ask authors to fill out should/may/must before/during WG LC starts. Allow 3 Week WG LC.] Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? [Shepherd todo: Ask on WG LC] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [Shepherd todo: Start QA review from RTG-DIR] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? [OPS-DIR QA review requested] Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run [6/7/2019] 2. Review of entire document and dependents The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. I would prefer if draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-00 was proposed for WG adoption prior to sending this to the IESG. Is there anyway this can be hurried along? Otherwise, this draft will need more error handling specified. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. [TBd] (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/lMM_arn4fS1x3gaeWzuP9qrfK-4 N Triantafillis https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/zdb3NF-PWv2nf9LyD23VUm99PcU Contributor: Siva Sivabalan https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/1Hhz2Xl5_l2xnhHP3cdqNvFnfLg (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? [Shepherd TBD] (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) [Sheperd TBD] (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. |
2019-06-09
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05 | Susan Hares | IPR call must be done prior to 2 week WG LC |
2019-06-09
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05 | Susan Hares | Tag Other - see Comment Log set. |
2019-06-09
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05 | Susan Hares | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2019-06-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do IPR Status: Before WG LC: Need all IPR statements, complete implementation report, query to WG on 2 IPR … Template date: 24 February 2012. Status: To-do IPR Status: Before WG LC: Need all IPR statements, complete implementation report, query to WG on 2 IPR Implementation status: Only 2 Cisco implementations, need full implementation (MUST/Should/Etc) WG LC: questions: Any planned implementations? Are cisco implementatnios enough Shepherd status: Need QA review by RTG-DIR and OPS-DIR Shepherd review: Pre-WG LC and post-WG LC needed ---------------------- (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This document defines a way for a Border Gateway Protocol Link-State (BGP-LS) speaker to advertise multiple types of supported Maximum SID Depths (MSDs) at node and/or link granularity. Such advertisements allow entities (e.g., centralized controllers) to determine whether a particular Segment Identifier (SID) stack can be supported in a given network. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? 2 IPR filed on this work 2 implementation are only cisco For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? [TBD] Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 2 Cisco implementations have indicated support for the protocol. No details are available on the SHOULD/MAY/MUST. [Shepherd todo: Ask authors to fill out should/may/must before/during WG LC starts. Allow 3 Week WG LC.] Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? [Shepherd todo: Ask on WG LC] Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? [Shepherd todo: Start QA review from RTG-DIR] If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? [OPS-DIR QA review requested] Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Susan Hares Who is the Responsible AD? Alvaro Retana (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. 1. NITS run [6/7/2019] 2. Review of entire document and dependents The document lacks error handling section that indicates what happens if the TLVS are incorrectly parsed. I would prefer if draft-ketant-idr-rfc7752bis-00 was proposed for WG adoption prior to sending this to the IESG. Is there anyway this can be hurried along? Otherwise, this draft will need more error handling specified. 3. RTG-DIR QA [TBD] 4. OPS-DIR QA [TBD] If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? [TBD] (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. RTG-DIR Review should look LSR documents linked. OPS-DIR review should look at operational support. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. [TBd] (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Jeff Tantsura (Apstra, Inc.) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/71nuwWWzQkdbJKKuviy_FP2QuWQ Uma Chunduri (Futurewei) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/RhwAd8gfTRy7w4ws3monyGjvl3o Ketan Talaulikar (Cisco Systems) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/V9t7o86mWyetN3XUJjTJZ2ZtIxU Greg Mirsky (missing) N Triantafillis (missing) (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3273/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3023/ (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? [Shepherd TBD] (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) [Sheperd TBD] (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. No NITS founds. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? All references are normative. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? All normative references are RFCS. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. No normative references are downward references. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. No (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document This document requests assigning code-points from the registry "BGP- LS Node Descriptor, Link Descriptor, Prefix Descriptor, and Attribute TLVs" based on table below. Early allocation for these code-points have been done by IANA. +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | Code Point | Description | IS-IS TLV/Sub-TLV | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ | 266 | Node MSD | 242/23 | | 267 | Link MSD | (22,23,25,141,222,223)/15 | +------------+-----------------+---------------------------+ (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. |
2019-06-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Notification list changed to Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> |
2019-06-07
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05 | Susan Hares | Document shepherd changed to Susan Hares |
2019-06-01
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05 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-05.txt |
2019-06-01
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-06-01
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Siva Sivabalan , Gregory Mirsky , idr-chairs@ietf.org, Uma Chunduri , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-06-01
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05 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-19
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04 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-04.txt |
2019-02-19
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-02-19
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Nikos Triantafillis , Gregory Mirsky , Uma Chunduri , Siva Sivabalan , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-02-19
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04 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-19
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03 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-03.txt |
2019-02-19
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-02-19
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Gregory Mirsky , idr-chairs@ietf.org, Uma Chunduri , Siva Sivabalan , Jeff Tantsura |
2019-02-19
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03 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-14
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02 | (System) | Document has expired |
2018-08-30
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Jenny Bui | Posted related IPR disclosure: Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd | |
2018-08-13
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02 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-02.txt |
2018-08-13
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2018-08-13
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Gregory Mirsky , Uma Chunduri , Siva Sivabalan , Jeff Tantsura |
2018-08-13
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02 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2018-04-19
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01 | (System) | Document has expired |
2018-03-21
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01 | John Scudder | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2018-03-21
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01 | John Scudder | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2017-10-16
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01 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-01.txt |
2017-10-16
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2017-10-16
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Gregory Mirsky , Uma Chunduri , Siva Sivabalan , Jeff Tantsura |
2017-10-16
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01 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |
2017-07-19
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00 | John Scudder | This document now replaces draft-tantsura-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd instead of None |
2017-07-17
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00 | Jeff Tantsura | New version available: draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-00.txt |
2017-07-17
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
2017-07-17
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00 | Jeff Tantsura | Set submitter to "Jeff Tantsura ", replaces to (none) and sent approval email to group chairs: idr-chairs@ietf.org |
2017-07-17
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00 | Jeff Tantsura | Uploaded new revision |