Issues with IP Address Sharing
draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-05
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2018-12-20
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05 | (System) | Received changes through RFC Editor sync (changed abstract to 'The completion of IPv4 address allocations from IANA and the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) is causing … Received changes through RFC Editor sync (changed abstract to 'The completion of IPv4 address allocations from IANA and the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) is causing service providers around the world to question how they will continue providing IPv4 connectivity service to their subscribers when there are no longer sufficient IPv4 addresses to allocate them one per subscriber. Several possible solutions to this problem are now emerging based around the idea of shared IPv4 addressing. These solutions give rise to a number of issues, and this memo identifies those common to all such address sharing approaches. Such issues include application failures, additional service monitoring complexity, new security vulnerabilities, and so on. Solution-specific discussions are out of scope. Deploying IPv6 is the only perennial way to ease pressure on the public IPv4 address pool without the need for address sharing mechanisms that give rise to the issues identified herein. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes.') |
2015-10-14
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05 | (System) | Notify list changed from intarea-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues@ietf.org to (None) |
2012-08-22
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05 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Robert Sparks |
2012-08-22
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05 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Ralph Droms |
2012-08-22
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05 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Lars Eggert |
2011-06-29
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05 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to RFC Published from RFC Ed Queue. |
2011-06-28
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05 | (System) | RFC published |
2011-06-23
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05 | Julien Laganier | Was sent to IESG. |
2011-06-23
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05 | Julien Laganier | IETF state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Document |
2011-03-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | State changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent. |
2011-03-29
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2011-03-29
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2011-03-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2011-03-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2011-03-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2011-03-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | Approval announcement text regenerated |
2011-03-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | Ballot writeup text changed |
2011-03-29
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05 | Jari Arkko | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup. |
2011-03-04
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05 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ralph Droms has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2011-03-03
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-05.txt |
2011-03-03
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05 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Robert Sparks has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2011-02-22
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05 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Lars Eggert has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2011-02-21
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2011-02-21
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-04.txt |
2011-02-17
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05 | Cindy Morgan | Removed from agenda for telechat |
2011-02-17
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05 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation. |
2011-02-17
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05 | Russ Housley | [Ballot comment] Please consider the comments from the Gen-ART Review by Francis Dupont on 16-Feb-2011: - 5.2.1 page 11: I have a concern … [Ballot comment] Please consider the comments from the Gen-ART Review by Francis Dupont on 16-Feb-2011: - 5.2.1 page 11: I have a concern about the word 'relay' in 'a UPnP or NAT-PMP relay' as it can be interpreted as a protocol relay when obviously the service is relayed. Perhaps changing 'relay' by 'proxy' is better? - 6 page 13: ICMP is not an application, I suggest 'ICMP echo' or (for me it is the name of the application but I don't know for any OS users) 'ping' - 7 page 14, 13.2 page 18: e.g. -> e.g., - 13.5 page 19: please take the opportunity to introduce the 'IKE' abbrev - 26.[12] page 24: spurious spaces after citations. i.e., '[ref...] ,' -> '[ref...].' (IMHO it is a side effect of the xml style, so something to be fixed by the RFC Editor, i.e., just warn him about this) - in many places the English spelling is used when RFCs use more the American spelling (another item for the RFC Editor). Here is the list from my ispell: Randomisation, Behaviour, organisation, randomisation, realise, customised, centralised, randomisation, Randomisation, randomisation, randomisation, Behaviour, optimisation, optimisation, utilise, utilise - real spelling errors: Feburary, tunnelled (one 'l' please), demuxing, signalling (twice, one 'l' again) |
2011-02-17
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05 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-17
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05 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-17
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05 | Gonzalo Camarillo | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-17
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05 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] If the percentage of end-to-end IPv6 traffic significantly increases, so that the volume of IPv4 traffic begins decreasing, then the number … [Ballot comment] If the percentage of end-to-end IPv6 traffic significantly increases, so that the volume of IPv4 traffic begins decreasing, then the number of IPv4 sessions will decrease. This sentence seems to imply a predicted correlation. It does not follow that the increase in IPv6 traffic will reduce the volume of IPv6 traffic. |
2011-02-17
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot comment] 13.6. Policing Forwarding Behaviour If some form of IPv6 ingress filtering is deployed in the broadband network and DS-Lite service is … [Ballot comment] 13.6. Policing Forwarding Behaviour If some form of IPv6 ingress filtering is deployed in the broadband network and DS-Lite service is restricted to those subscribers, then tunnels terminating at the CGN and coming from registered subscriber IPv6 addresses cannot be spoofed. Thus a simple access control list on the tunnel transport source address is all that is required to accept traffic on the southbound interface of a CGN. Is "southbound" a common terminology? 17. IPv6 Transition Issues Subscribers allocated with private addresses will not be able to utilise 6to4 to access IPv6, but may be able to utilise Teredo. This needs an Informative reference. The first reference to HTTP needs an Informative reference. |
2011-02-17
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05 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-16
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05 | Sean Turner | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-16
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05 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded |
2011-02-16
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05 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot comment] In Figure 1, while reverse DNS is affected (more precisely, broken) by NAT without address sharing, in my opinion it is affected differently … [Ballot comment] In Figure 1, while reverse DNS is affected (more precisely, broken) by NAT without address sharing, in my opinion it is affected differently (more broken) by address sharing. Might deserve "xx"? |
2011-02-16
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05 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot discuss] I don't understand this sentence: 17. IPv6 Transition Issues [...] Shared addresses should be drawn from space designated as such … [Ballot discuss] I don't understand this sentence: 17. IPv6 Transition Issues [...] Shared addresses should be drawn from space designated as such [RFC1918]. Otherwise their use will break the widely implemented assumption that public IPv4 addresses are globally unique addresses and hence break many protocols and applications, [...] Which "shared addresses" are under discussion here? Isn't the motivation for this document the need to share public addresses because of IPv4 address exhaustion? Later in the same section: Issues created by sharing public address space across multiple hosts are specifically addressed in [I-D.thaler-port-restricted-ip-issues]. Isn't thaler-port-restricted-ip-issues just focused on issues with A+P addressing, not generally public address space sharing issues? Does address sharing affect any other transition technologies, or just 6-to-4? |
2011-02-16
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05 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded |
2011-02-16
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05 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot discuss] I'm adding a placeholder discuss to make sure the discussion between the authors and the tsv-dir reviewer terminates and we have a version … [Ballot discuss] I'm adding a placeholder discuss to make sure the discussion between the authors and the tsv-dir reviewer terminates and we have a version submitted that addresses all comments. |
2011-02-16
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05 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Lars Eggert has been changed to Discuss from No Objection |
2011-02-15
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05 | Peter Saint-Andre | [Ballot comment] Section 12 on Traceability refers to "the offending activity". Given the principle of innocent until proven guilty, I suggest "a particular activity". |
2011-02-15
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05 | Peter Saint-Andre | [Ballot comment] Section 12 on Traceability refers to "the offending activity". Given the principle of guilty until proven innocent, I suggest "a particular activity". |
2011-02-15
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05 | Peter Saint-Andre | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-15
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05 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot comment] Please consider the text proposed by Richard Barnes at |
2011-02-15
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05 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot discuss] This document calls out to draft-thaler-port-restricted-ip-issues for several important discussions, but that document has not been refreshed since Feb-10, and I'm not finding … [Ballot discuss] This document calls out to draft-thaler-port-restricted-ip-issues for several important discussions, but that document has not been refreshed since Feb-10, and I'm not finding any other signs of activity around it. What is the plan for moving that document forward? |
2011-02-15
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05 | Robert Sparks | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded |
2011-02-15
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05 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot comment] Section 1., paragraph 1: > Authority (IANA) were completed on Feburary 3, 2011 [IPv4_Pool]. Nit: s/Feburary/February/ Section 1., paragraph 3: > … [Ballot comment] Section 1., paragraph 1: > Authority (IANA) were completed on Feburary 3, 2011 [IPv4_Pool]. Nit: s/Feburary/February/ Section 1., paragraph 3: > Over the long term, deploying IPv6 is the only way to ease pressure > on the public IPv4 address pool without the need for address sharing > mechanisms that give rise to the issues identified herein. In the > short term, maintaining growth of IPv4 services in the presence of > IPv4 address depletion will require address sharing. Given the huge list of issues, I find it surprising to see that the document says "In the short term (...) IPv4 address depletion will require address sharing." The document should much more strongly argue for deploying IPv6 as the solution. It does in a few places, but I think the message bears repeating. Put it in the footer! :-) Section 3., paragraph 3: > +------------------------------------------------+--------+---------+ > | Issue | 1st | 3rd | > | | party | parties | > +------------------------------------------------+--------+---------+ It would be good for each issue in the table below to indicate which section discusses it in more detail. This is not at all clear from the headings of the subsequent sections. Add a column for this? Section 5.1., paragraph 3: > A potential problem with dynamic allocation occurs when one of the > subscriber devices behind such a port-shared IPv4 address becomes > infected with a worm, which then quickly sets about opening many > outbound connections in order to propagate itself. Such an infection > could rapidly exhaust the shared resource of the single IPv4 address > for all connected subscribers. It is therefore necessary to impose > limits on the total number of ports available to an individual > subscriber to ensure that the shared resource (the IPv4 address) > remains available in some capacity to all the subscribers using it. Limits aren't the only way of handling this. You can also kill off established connections when the port space runs out. If you do this randomly, a user with many connections will be proportionally more likely to get hit, which is what is needed. The benefit of the "kill" scheme is that you can support a wider variety of sharing patterns compared to fixed limits. Section 5.2.2., paragraph 2: > For example, the use of DNS SRV records [RFC2782] provides a > potential solution for subscribers wishing to host services in the > presence of a shared-addressing scheme. SRV records make it possible > to specify a port value related to a service, thereby making services > accessible on ports other than the Well-Known ports. It is worth > noting that this mechanism is not applicable to HTTP. HTTP as well as many other legacy protocols. Section 13.1., paragraph 0: > 13.1. Abuse Logging and Penalty Boxes An addition to this section: There are web tie-ins into different black lists that some web site owners subscribe to which redirect clients to a URL that basically says "hey, your machine is infected." Sometimes, they even prevent their site from then working for that users, in order to "give incentives" to fix the problem. With address sharing, someone else's worm can hence interfere with my ability to do stuff. (And I already see this today behind the Nokia NAT, because some clown here has an infected Windows box on the intranet...) |
2011-02-15
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05 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded |
2011-02-14
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05 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2011-02-14
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05 | Jari Arkko | Ballot has been issued |
2011-02-14
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05 | Jari Arkko | Created "Approve" ballot |
2011-02-10
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-03.txt |
2011-02-08
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05 | Jari Arkko | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2011-02-17 |
2011-02-08
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05 | Jari Arkko | State changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead. |
2011-02-02
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05 | David Harrington | Request for Last Call review by TSVDIR Completed. Reviewer: Joseph Touch. |
2011-02-01
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05 | (System) | State changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call. |
2011-01-19
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05 | David Harrington | Request for Last Call review by TSVDIR is assigned to Joseph Touch |
2011-01-19
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05 | David Harrington | Request for Last Call review by TSVDIR is assigned to Joseph Touch |
2011-01-18
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05 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to David McGrew |
2011-01-18
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05 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to David McGrew |
2011-01-18
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05 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2011-01-18
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05 | Amy Vezza | State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested. The following Last Call Announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: … State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested. The following Last Call Announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Last Call: (Issues with IP Address Sharing) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Internet Area Working Group WG (intarea) to consider the following document: - 'Issues with IP Address Sharing' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2011-02-01. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues/ |
2011-01-18
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05 | Amy Vezza | Last Call text changed |
2011-01-17
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05 | Jari Arkko | Last Call was requested |
2011-01-17
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05 | Jari Arkko | State changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation. |
2011-01-17
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05 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2011-01-17
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05 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2011-01-17
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05 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2011-01-17
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05 | Jari Arkko | Last Call text changed |
2010-12-21
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05 | Jari Arkko | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Jari Arkko |
2010-11-10
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05 | Cindy Morgan | [Note]: 'Julien Laganier (julienl@qualcomm.com) is the document shepherd.' added by Cindy Morgan |
2010-11-10
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05 | Cindy Morgan | (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the … (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? The Document Shepherd is Julien Laganier, INTAREA co-chair. He has personally done a thorough review of the document. He believe the document is ready for forwarding to IESG for publication. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The document was given adequate reviews. The Document Shepherd has no concerns about the depth or breadth of these reviews. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? The Document Shepherd has no such concerns. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. The Document Shepherd has no such concerns. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There is WG consensus behind this document. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) No. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See the Internet-Drafts Checklist and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? Yes. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. The document has split its references into normative and informative. There are neither normative references in an unclear state, nor downward references. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? The document has an IANA considerations sections that correctly state that the document does not need IANA actions. (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? There are no such sections. (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary The completion of IPv4 address allocations from IANA and the RIRs is causing service providers around the world to question how they will continue providing IPv4 connectivity service to their subscribers when there are no longer sufficient IPv4 addresses to allocate them one per subscriber. Several possible solutions to this problem are now emerging based around the idea of shared IPv4 addressing. These solutions give rise to a number of issues and this memo identifies those common to all such address sharing approaches. Solution- specific discussions are out of scope. Working Group Summary The normal WG process was followed and the document as it stands now reflects WG consensus with nothing special worth mentioning. Document Quality The document was given adequate reviews. The Document Shepherd has no concerns about the depth or breadth of these reviews. |
2010-11-10
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05 | Cindy Morgan | Draft Added by Cindy Morgan in state Publication Requested |
2010-10-15
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-02.txt |
2010-06-30
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-01.txt |
2010-06-04
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-intarea-shared-addressing-issues-00.txt |