Heuristics for Detecting ESP-NULL Packets
draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-07
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2012-08-22
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07 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Jari Arkko |
2010-03-23
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07 | Cindy Morgan | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Cindy Morgan |
2010-03-23
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2010-03-23
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2010-03-23
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2010-03-23
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2010-03-23
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07 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2010-03-23
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza |
2010-03-22
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07 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-07.txt |
2010-03-17
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Jari Arkko has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Jari Arkko |
2010-03-05
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07 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2010-03-04 |
2010-03-04
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza |
2010-03-04
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07 | Ross Callon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ross Callon |
2010-03-04
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Tim Polk |
2010-03-04
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07 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Russ Housley |
2010-03-04
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07 | Dan Romascanu | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Dan Romascanu |
2010-03-04
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot discuss] Its good that we have this document. However, I had a few issues that we should atleast discuss before shipping the document to … [Ballot discuss] Its good that we have this document. However, I had a few issues that we should atleast discuss before shipping the document to the RFC Editor. First, the document says: In both IPv4 and IPv6 the heuristics can also check the IP addresses either to be in the known range (for example check that both IPv6 source and destination have same prefix etc), or checking addresses across more than one packet. I do not understand what you mean by the same prefix here. Obviously in IPv6 the source and destination do not have to have the same prefix. Second, the document says: One way to enforce deep inspection for all traffic, is to forbid encrypted ESP completely, in which case ESP-NULL detection is easier, as all packets must be ESP-NULL based on the policy, and further restrictions can eliminate ambiguities in ICV and IV sizes. Is this a circular argument? If per policy everything is ESP-NULL, why do you have to check to begin with? And if there's someone who might be sending encrypted ESP, then you don't appear to be able to assume anything special about the packets. Perhaps you wanted to say that if there are some servers that are in control of the network's owner, they can require ESP-NULL and hence everyone who talks with those servers is forced to do ESP-NULL. But I'm not sure what it has to do with the topic of this document. Finally, I think the document should be clearer about the failure modes and implications of those failures. Even if the probability of misclassification is small, if it causes the packet to be dropped per policy this can have significant negative effects. Its not even clear that retransmission would always help. (Or would it, if there was a new IV and the packet would look randomly different?) Does the document recommend dropping all encrypted packets as one mode of operation? Please describe what is the effect of classification failures is in this case (false positive for detecting encrypted packet). Does the document recommend dropping packets that match a certain pattern? Please describe what the effect of failures is in this case (false negative for detecting encrypted packet). |
2010-03-04
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot discuss] The document says: In both IPv4 and IPv6 the heuristics can also check the IP addresses either to be in the … [Ballot discuss] The document says: In both IPv4 and IPv6 the heuristics can also check the IP addresses either to be in the known range (for example check that both IPv6 source and destination have same prefix etc), or checking addresses across more than one packet. I do not understand what you mean by the same prefix here. Obviously in IPv6 the source and destination do not have to have the same prefix. |
2010-03-04
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Jari Arkko |
2010-03-03
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07 | Ralph Droms | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ralph Droms |
2010-03-03
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07 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot comment] The heuristics seem too weak to recommend for UDP. The misclassification of UDP such as RTP as IPSEC seems like it will do … [Ballot comment] The heuristics seem too weak to recommend for UDP. The misclassification of UDP such as RTP as IPSEC seems like it will do more harm than good. DPI devices will misclassify then fail to apply the right policy. It will be extremely hard to debug in the network as it will only happen to some of the RTP stream. |
2010-03-03
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07 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Cullen Jennings has been changed to Abstain from No Objection by Cullen Jennings |
2010-03-03
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07 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Cullen Jennings |
2010-03-03
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] A thorough piece of work. Thanks. I think the Abstract may be a little terse. to quickly decide whether given packet flow … [Ballot comment] A thorough piece of work. Thanks. I think the Abstract may be a little terse. to quickly decide whether given packet flow is interesting or not This phrase doesn't make anything clear. I would prefer you say what you are attempting to determine and why. |
2010-03-03
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Adrian Farrel |
2010-03-03
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07 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed. Reviewer: Rob Austein. |
2010-03-02
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07 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ron Bonica |
2010-02-26
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06 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-06.txt |
2010-02-16
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07 | Pasi Eronen | State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Pasi Eronen |
2010-02-16
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07 | Pasi Eronen | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2010-03-04 by Pasi Eronen |
2010-02-16
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07 | Pasi Eronen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Pasi Eronen |
2010-02-16
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07 | Pasi Eronen | Ballot has been issued by Pasi Eronen |
2010-02-16
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07 | Pasi Eronen | Created "Approve" ballot |
2010-02-11
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07 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system |
2010-02-08
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07 | Amanda Baber | IANA comments: As described in the IANA Considerations section, we understand this document to have NO IANA Actions. |
2010-01-31
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07 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Rob Austein |
2010-01-31
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07 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Rob Austein |
2010-01-28
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07 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2010-01-28
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2010-01-28
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07 | Pasi Eronen | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Pasi Eronen |
2010-01-28
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07 | Pasi Eronen | Last Call was requested by Pasi Eronen |
2010-01-28
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07 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2010-01-28
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07 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2010-01-28
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07 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2010-01-28
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2010-01-28
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-05.txt |
2010-01-28
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07 | Pasi Eronen | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Pasi Eronen |
2010-01-27
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2010-01-27
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-04.txt |
2010-01-27
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07 | Pasi Eronen | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Pasi Eronen |
2010-01-26
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07 | Pasi Eronen | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Pasi Eronen |
2010-01-26
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07 | Pasi Eronen | [Note]: 'Yaron Sheffer (yaronf@checkpoint.com) is the document shepherd.' added by Pasi Eronen |
2009-11-30
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07 | Cindy Morgan | Document name: Heuristics for Detecting ESP-NULL packets, draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-03.txt (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version … Document name: Heuristics for Detecting ESP-NULL packets, draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-03.txt (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? The document shepherd is Yaron Sheffer, co-chair of the ipsecme WG. I have reviewed it and believe it is ready for publication. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The document has had in-depth review within the ipsecme WG. It took a bit of prodding, but we finally got a sufficient number of in-depth reviews. I am not aware of any non-WG reviews. I do not have any concerns about these reviews. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? No concerns, the document lies fully within the ipsecme WG's area of expertise. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. I have no such concerns. There have been no IPR disclosures. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There is wide WG consensus. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) No, there were no such conflicts. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? Yes, I have personally verified that. No formal review criteria are applicable. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. No issues identified. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? The documents requires no IANA actions. (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? There are no such sections. A large portion of the document is written in pseudocode, which unfortunately is not amenable to automatic verification, even at the syntactic level. (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. This document describes a set of heuristics for distinguishing IPsec ESP-null (Encapsulating Security Payload without encryption) packets from encrypted ESP packets. These heuristics can be used on intermediate devices, such as traffic analyzers and deep inspection engines, to quickly decide whether given packet flow is interesting or not. Use of these heuristics does not require any changes made on existing RFC 4303 compliant IPsec hosts. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? Early on there was prolonged WG discussion about the relative merits of the Wrapped ESP solution for identifying ESP-null traffic, compared to heuristic methods for traffic inspection. Eventually the WG reached consensus on the usefulness of having both solutions published, with the heuristics solution targeted for the interim period until WESP is widely deployed. This consensus is documented in both protocol documents. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? We are not aware of any implementations. Neither do we know of any concrete vendor plans to implement this specification. |
2009-11-30
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07 | Cindy Morgan | Draft Added by Cindy Morgan in state Publication Requested |
2009-11-30
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07 | Cindy Morgan | [Note]: 'Yaron Sheffer (yaronf@checkpoint.com) is the document shepherd.' added by Cindy Morgan |
2009-11-30
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-03.txt |
2009-11-23
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-02.txt |
2009-09-03
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-01.txt |
2009-04-16
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics-00.txt |