Group Key Management using IKEv2
draft-ietf-ipsecme-g-ikev2-23

Yes

Deb Cooley
Paul Wouters

No Objection

Erik Kline
Gunter Van de Velde
Jim Guichard
Orie Steele
Roman Danyliw
(Francesca Palombini)
(John Scudder)
(Murray Kucherawy)
(Warren Kumari)
(Zaheduzzaman Sarker)

Note: This ballot was opened for revision 18 and is now closed.

Deb Cooley
Yes
Paul Wouters
(was Discuss) Yes
Comment (2025-02-07 for -20) Sent 
Thanks for the discussion and the new text provided. I have updated my ballot to 'Yes'
Erik Kline
No Objection
Comment (2025-02-01 for -20) Sent 
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## Comments

### S4.4.2

* "UDP encapsulation of ESP packets [RFC3948] cannot be specified in
   G-IKEv2 and thus it is not used for the multicast Data-Security SAs."

  I didn't immediately follow why this should necessarily be true. If
  there's an explanation, or a link to section I didn't properly grok,
  some brief addition might be nice.

## Nits

### S1

* "where multicast communications indicated with double line" ->
  "where multicast communications are indicated with a double line"
Gunter Van de Velde
No Objection
Jim Guichard
No Objection
Orie Steele
No Objection
Roman Danyliw
(was Discuss) No Objection
Comment (2025-02-11 for -21) Sent 
Thank you to Robert Sparks for the GENART review.

Thanks for addressing my DISCUSS and COMMENT feedback.
Francesca Palombini Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (for -20) Not sent 

                            

                        
                    

                
            
                
                    

                        

                            John Scudder Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
                            No Objection
                            
                        

                    

                    

                        

                            

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                            Murray Kucherawy Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
                            No Objection
                            
                        

                    

                    

                        

                            

                                No Objection 
                                
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I support Roman's DISCUSS regarding Section 9.2.  In addition to that, I suggest putting each new registry in its own subsection, and each specific action or group of actions in Section 9.3 in their own subsections.

Regarding the SHOULD in Section 2.3.1, what's the alternative?  Why is there a choice here?

                            

                        
                    

                
            
                
                    

                        

                            Warren Kumari Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
                            No Objection
                            
                        

                    

                    

                        

                            

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                            Zaheduzzaman Sarker Former IESG member
                        

                        

                            
                            No Objection
                            
                        

                    

                    

                        

                            

                                No Objection 
                                
                                    (2025-02-05 for -20)
                                
                                
                                    
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Thanks for working on IKEv2. Thanks for Gorry for his TSVART review.

I am supporting Roman's discuss on lack of instructions for DE for doing the job.