X.509 Extended Key Usage (EKU) for configuration, updates and safety-communication
draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-08
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2025-04-11
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2025-04-10
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2025-04-10
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08 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2025-04-10
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08 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2025-04-10
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08 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2025-04-10
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08 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2025-04-10
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08 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2025-04-10
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08 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-04-10
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08 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
2025-04-10
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08 | Deb Cooley | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2025-04-09
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08 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-08.txt |
2025-04-09
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08 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-04-09
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08 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-04-09
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07 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot comment] Thanks for addressing my concerns. I have updated my ballot to "yes" |
2025-04-09
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07 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Paul Wouters has been changed to Yes from Discuss |
2025-04-08
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07 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot comment] Hi Hendrik, Thank you for addressing my DISCUSS and COMMENT points [1] and also merging the PR. Much appreciated. I'm still not comfortable … [Ballot comment] Hi Hendrik, Thank you for addressing my DISCUSS and COMMENT points [1] and also merging the PR. Much appreciated. I'm still not comfortable including some claims about external organizations/specifications (especially on the safety/security) even if those are in an appendix. (1) The causality effect is not trivial IMO Automation hardware and software products strive to become more safe and secure by fulfilling mandatory, generic system requirements related to cyber security driven by federal offices (2) not clear who made the call that "deliverables include due consideration of cyber security..": The deliverables include due consideration of cyber security aspects based on the IEC 62443 series of standards, focused on the European railway network to which Directive 2016/797 - Interoperability of the rail system within the EU [Directive-2016_797] applies. That's said, I trust the authors and Deb to do the right thing here. Cheers, Med [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spasm/1sC5bIs7r6y2VVask6yu70xPkoE/ |
2025-04-08
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07 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Mohamed Boucadair has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2025-04-08
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07 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2025-04-08
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07 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-07.txt |
2025-04-08
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07 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-04-08
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07 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-04-03
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06 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
2025-04-02
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06 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot discuss] Hi Hendrik/David, Thank you for the effort put into this profile. Thanks to Bing Liu for his OPSDIR review. Please consider replying to … [Ballot discuss] Hi Hendrik/David, Thank you for the effort put into this profile. Thanks to Bing Liu for his OPSDIR review. Please consider replying to that review. ## When I first approached the draft, I though the scope is network automation and the like (yes, I'm biased here ;-). I would normally cite this item as a comment, but for this specific document, I think we should be clear about the intended usage (including the title and Section 2). I suggest we update the title as follows: OLD: X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Automation NEW: X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Industrial Automation Idem for the title of Section 3. ## Intended applicability: I’m having troubles to reconcile these two statements: CURRENT: The context in which the KeyPurposeIds defined in this document are used is out of scope for this document. CURRENT: As described in Section 4.2.1.12 of [RFC5280], "[i]f the [extended key usage] extension is present, then the certificate MUST only be used for one of the purposes indicated" and "[i]f multiple [key] purposes are indicated the application need not recognize all purposes indicated, as long as the intended purpose is present". ## Mismatch between IANA actions and ASN module: The id registered in Section 8 does not match id-mod-eu-automation-eku used in the “ASN.1 Module”! |
2025-04-02
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06 | Mohamed Boucadair | Ballot discuss text updated for Mohamed Boucadair |
2025-04-02
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06 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot discuss] This specification focuses on use in industrial automation and rail automation. I don't find that the "focus" - it … [Ballot discuss] This specification focuses on use in industrial automation and rail automation. I don't find that the "focus" - it is more an example use. I think this sentence should be removed - also because we don't want people to NOT use these id-kp values if they have good use for these elsewhere. See also below on "id-mod-automation-eku" For example, a technical standard may specify: 'Different keys and certificates MUST be used for safety communication and for trust anchor updates, and a relying party MUST ignore the KeyPurposeId [...] The certificate policy for example may specify: 'The id-kp-safetyCommunication KeyPuposeId SHOULD NOT be included [...] The use of RFC2119 syntax in possible external example literature is confusing. Can these be turned into lower case words instead? The procedures and practices employed by a certification authority MUST ensure This is a direction to how to use things, which I think should not use RFC2119 language either. id-mod-automation-eku This kinda comes without further explanation. I guess it's a group identifier in a way. But It seems poorly matched to the values being added. id-kp-safetyCommunication could very well be used in non-automation ways. What I would like to prevent is that we will get multiple entries for say id-kp-safetyCommunication within a different group other than id-mod-automation-eku. For example let's say certificates used for High Level government officials in a Signal Group Chat, which would clearly not be "automation". |
2025-04-02
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06 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot comment] "SMI Security for PKIX Extended Key Purpose" A direct link to the iana page here would be nice to have. |
2025-04-02
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06 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
2025-04-02
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06 | Bing Liu | Request for Telechat review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Bing Liu. Sent review to list. |
2025-04-01
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06 | Orie Steele | [Ballot comment] # Orie Steele, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-06 CC @OR13 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-06.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * … [Ballot comment] # Orie Steele, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-06 CC @OR13 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-06.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Comments ### SHOULD require that corresponding KeyPurposeIds ``` 226 Systems or applications that verify the signature of a general- 227 purpose configuration file or trust anchor configuration file, the 228 signature of a software or firmware update package, or the 229 authentication of a communication peer for safety-critical 230 communication SHOULD require that corresponding KeyPurposeIds be 231 specified by the EKU extension. If the certificate requester knows ``` I take it this is not a MUST for backward compatibility reasons. Are there any cases where this is a MUST or where it is a MUST NOT? ## Nits ### clinetAuth -> clientAuth ``` 330 anyExtendedKeyUsage KeyPurposeId. Examples of allowed KeyPurposeIds 331 combinations can be the presence of id-kp-safetyCommunication 332 together with id-kp-clinetAuth or id-kp-serverAuth. ``` |
2025-04-01
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06 | Orie Steele | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Orie Steele |
2025-04-01
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06 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Stewart Bryant for the GENART review. Comment for the WG and responsible AD: Please consider if the LAMPS WG charter … [Ballot comment] Thank you to Stewart Bryant for the GENART review. Comment for the WG and responsible AD: Please consider if the LAMPS WG charter needs to be clarified. It currently contains this language "In addition, the LAMPS WG may investigate other updates to documents produced by the PKIX and S/MIME WG. The LAMPS WG may produce clarifications where needed, but the LAMPS WG shall not adopt anything beyond clarifications without rechartering." Are these EKUs considered a clarifying update to a PKIX document? |
2025-04-01
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06 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2025-03-28
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2025-03-27
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06 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-06.txt |
2025-03-27
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06 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-03-27
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06 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-03-26
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05 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot comment] Section 1 makes several strong claims about things that don't have to do with the technical properties of our protocols. Fine to reference … [Ballot comment] Section 1 makes several strong claims about things that don't have to do with the technical properties of our protocols. Fine to reference the regulations and describe their goals, but it doesn't seem appropriate to make definitive statements about the outcomes those regulations will achieve/deliver. We simply can't know that, and making those assertions isn't the IETF's role. Related, the first half of this section reads as if this document were a product of the ERJU System Pillar rather than an IETF specification. I encourage reworking the tone here. Section 3's example specification language seem quite specific. Are these quotes from somewhere that should be referenced? I'm unclear what makes "safety-critical communication" a key usage and what separates it from client/server authentication more broadly. I would have thought that "safety-critical" is a property of the message, with rules around which authenticated clients/servers are trusted when they assert that their messages are safety-critical. Is this effectively just moving that rule set into the CA? (It's fine to just educate me on this question, but it might be worth including the answer in the document as well.) Minor nit: - In Section 1, s/internet/Internet/ |
2025-03-26
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05 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mike Bishop |
2025-03-26
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05 | Andy Newton | [Ballot comment] # Andy Newton, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05 CC @anewton1998 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * … [Ballot comment] # Andy Newton, ART AD, comments for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05 CC @anewton1998 * line numbers: - https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05.txt&submitcheck=True * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Comments Thank you for the work on this document. I have the following comments. ### General Applicability 11 Abstract 13 RFC 5280 defines the ExtendedKeyUsage extension and several extended 14 key purpose identifiers (KeyPurposeIds) for use with that extension 15 in X.509 certificates. This document defines KeyPurposeIds for 16 general-purpose and trust anchor configuration files, for software 17 and firmware update packages, and for safety-critical communication 18 to be included in the Extended Key Usage (EKU) extension of X.509 v3 19 public key certificates used by industrial automation and the 20 Europe's Rail Joint Undertaking (ERJU) System Pillar. Is this a generally usable specification or intended mostly for the ERJU? My impression is that this document has a broader use than just the ERJU, and if so perhaps that langauge of the last sentence could be adjusted so it is not suggestive of the narrower application. My suggestion: "... to be included in the Extended Key Usage (EKU) extension of X.509 v3 public key certificates, such as those used by industrial automation and the Europe's Rail Joint Undertaking (ERJU) System Pillar."" ### A Long Intro 72 1. Introduction 74 Automation hardware and software products will strategically be more 75 safe and secure by fulfilling mandatory, generic system requirements 76 related to cyber security driven by federal offices like the European 77 Union Cyber Resilience Act [EU-CRA] governed by the European 78 Commission and the High Representative of the Union for Foreign 79 Affairs and Security Policy. Automation products connected to the 80 internet would bear the so called CE marking [CE-marking] to indicate 81 they comply. Such regulation was announced in the 2020 EU 82 Cybersecurity Strategy [EU-STRATEGY], and complements other 83 legislation in this area, specifically the NIS2 Framework, Directive 84 on measures for a high common level of cybersecurity across the Union 85 [NIS2]. 2020 EU Cybersecurity Strategy suggests to implement and 86 extend international standards such as the Security for industrial 87 automation and control systems - Part 4-2: Technical security 88 requirements for IACS components [IEC.62443-4-2] (IACS refers to 89 industrial automation and control system) and the Industrial 90 communication networks - Network and system security - Part 3-3: 91 System security requirements and security levels [IEC.62443-3-3]. 92 Automation hardware and software products of diverse vendors that are 93 connected on automation networks and the internet build common 94 automation solutions. Harmonized attributes would allow transparency 95 of security properties and interoperability for vendors in context of 96 secure software and firmware updates, general-purpose configuration, 97 trust anchor configuration, and secure safety communication. ... I agree with the other reviewers with regard to this being a long introduction. IMHO, this would be more readable if the introduction summarized the technical aspects of the specification and referenced the applicability in an appendix. ### TLS WWW Client and Server 149 The KeyPurposeId id-kp-serverAuth (Section 4.2.1.12 of [RFC5280]) can 150 be used to identify that the certificate is for a TLS WWW server, and 151 the KeyPurposeId id-kp-clientAuth (Section 4.2.1.12 of [RFC5280]) can 152 be used to identify that the certificate is for a TLS WWW client. 153 However, there are currently no KeyPurposeIds for usage with X.509 154 certificates for safety-critical communication. Can the terms TLS WWW server and TLS WWW client be changed to HTTPS server and HTTPS client? Or is there something specific to these clients being based on web browsers? ### Relying Party or Relying Party Software 317 To reduce the risk of specific cross-protocol attacks, the relying 318 party or the relying party software may additionally prohibit use of Does the software need to be explicitly mentioned? Can this just say "relying party"? ### Concrete Requirements 322 party, is defined in Section 4 of [RFC9336]. The technical standards 323 and certificate policies of the application should specify concrete 324 requirements for excluded or permitted KeyPurposeIds or their 325 combinations. An example of excluded KeyPurposeIds can be the In my opinion, "concrete requirements" is not concrete enough. :) Would the following wording be helpful? "... the application should explicitly enumerate requirements..." |
2025-03-26
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05 | Andy Newton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Andy Newton |
2025-03-26
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05 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot comment] ## General note 1: I understand that the profile grabbed some text from other similar specs. However, I have some concerns about some … [Ballot comment] ## General note 1: I understand that the profile grabbed some text from other similar specs. However, I have some concerns about some constructs such as CURRENT: The procedures and practices employed by a certification authority MUST ensure that the correct values for the EKU extension as well as the KU extension are inserted in each certificate that is issued. Saying that entity A MUST ensure the correct values are used is "obvious". BTW, s/certification authority/CA ## General note 2: Please use terminology that is consistent with RFC 5280. For example, there is not “key purpose identifiers” in 5280, but “key purposes”. ## Abstract: use terms as defined in 5280 + expand in first use OLD: RFC 5280 defines the ExtendedKeyUsage extension and several extended key purpose identifiers (KeyPurposeIds) for use with that extension in X.509 certificates. This document defines KeyPurposeIds for general-purpose and trust anchor configuration files, for software and firmware update packages, and for safety-critical communication to be included in the Extended Key Usage (EKU) extension of X.509 v3 public key certificates used by industrial automation and the Europe's Rail Joint Undertaking (ERJU) System Pillar. NEW: RFC 5280 defines the Extended Key Usage (EKU) extension and several extended key purposes (KeyPurposeIds) for use with that extension in X.509 certificates. This document defines KeyPurposeIds for general-purpose and trust anchor configuration files, for software and firmware update packages, and for safety-critical communication to be included in the EKU extension of X.509 v3 public key certificates used by industrial automation and the Europe's Rail Joint Undertaking (ERJU) System Pillar. ## Introduction: (1) Many statements in the introduction are not adequate for an IETF document. For example, consider the first sentence, and putting aside that I don’t parse it well, I don’t think we need to make such claims in an RFC. (2) There are also several terms that are not well defined (e.g., Harmonized attributes) (3) There are statements that would not age well (e.g., will deliver) (4) There is several material in the introduction that is good for initial draft versions, but I don’t think this fits in an RFC ## Section 2: (1) I suggest to add this NEW: This document uses terms defined in [RFC5280]. X.509 certificate X.509 extensions are defined using ASN.1 [X.680] and [X.690]. (2) Define what is meant by “safety-critical communication” as this is key to identify the applicability scope of this spec. ## Section 4 (1) consider changing the various occurrences of “may be” to “is” (2) “secure software or firmware update packages”: this seems to restrict the scope to “secure” update (whatsoever that means), while Section 3 uses “signature of a software or firmware update package”. I think that we can remove “secure”. Please double check the various uses in the spec. |
2025-03-26
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05 | Mohamed Boucadair | Ballot comment text updated for Mohamed Boucadair |
2025-03-26
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05 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot comment] Thank you for preparing this document, I have the following comments: 1. The introduction includes: “will strategically be more safe and secure”. I … [Ballot comment] Thank you for preparing this document, I have the following comments: 1. The introduction includes: “will strategically be more safe and secure”. I think that an RFC cannot make such a claim, please consider an alternate phrase, perhaps using “are designed to make”. 2. The first para of the introduction is long. please divide this into paragraphs (or preferably a set of subsections) . 3. The sentence below (and following) seems like it belongs in a different paragraph: “Automation hardware and software products of diverse vendors that are connected on automation networks and the internet build common automation solutions.” Here, I think the word “build” here is problematic and I suggest this could be “can be used to build” is much easier to read. 4. I found the last paragraph of the introduction a little hard to parse and understand, but I suspect this may be important. Is something like this a possible clearer statement? This specification focuses on use in industrial automation. The definitions are intentionally broad to also allow use of the KeyPurposeIds in other deployments. The details for each implementation needs to be described in technical standards and certificate policies. 5. Several words are used to describe similar things, and it was not clear what the difference was between “applications” “deployments” and “implementations”. Please see if fewer terms could be used to simplify reading, and makes sure it clearly sets out the various uses. 6. I expect the following sentence is about the privacy considerations: “The inclusion of the EKU extension can help an observer determine the purpose of the certificate.” - But I don’t exactly see what this implies, please explain, possibly adding “which may reveal private information”? |
2025-03-26
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05 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gorry Fairhurst |
2025-03-24
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05 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
2025-03-24
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05 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot discuss] Hi Hendrik/David, Thank you for the effort put into this profile. ## When I first approached the draft, I though the scope is … [Ballot discuss] Hi Hendrik/David, Thank you for the effort put into this profile. ## When I first approached the draft, I though the scope is network automation and the like (yes, I'm biased here ;-). I would normally cite this item as a comment, but for this specific document, I think we should be clear about the intended usage (including the title and Section 2). I suggest we update the title as follows: OLD: X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Automation NEW: X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Industrial Automation Idem for the title of Section 3. ## Intended applicability: I’m having troubles to reconcile these two statements: CURRENT: The context in which the KeyPurposeIds defined in this document are used is out of scope for this document. CURRENT: As described in Section 4.2.1.12 of [RFC5280], "[i]f the [extended key usage] extension is present, then the certificate MUST only be used for one of the purposes indicated" and "[i]f multiple [key] purposes are indicated the application need not recognize all purposes indicated, as long as the intended purpose is present". ## Mismatch between IANA actions and ASN module: The id registered in Section 8 does not match id-mod-eu-automation-eku used in the “ASN.1 Module”! |
2025-03-24
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05 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot comment] FWIW, my full review can be found at: * pdf: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2025/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05-rev%20Med.pdf * doc: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2025/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05-rev%20Med.doc Only a subset of items are echoed here. The … [Ballot comment] FWIW, my full review can be found at: * pdf: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2025/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05-rev%20Med.pdf * doc: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2025/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05-rev%20Med.doc Only a subset of items are echoed here. The author can refer to the full review for nits/edits/etc. ## General note 1: I understand that the profile grabbed some text from other similar specs. However, I have some concerns about some constructs such as CURRENT: The procedures and practices employed by a certification authority MUST ensure that the correct values for the EKU extension as well as the KU extension are inserted in each certificate that is issued. Saying that entity A MUST ensure the correct values are used is "obvious". BTW, s/certification authority/CA ## General note 2: Please use terminology that is consistent with RFC 5280. For example, there is not “key purpose identifiers” in 5280, but “key purposes”. ## Introduction: (1) Many statements in the introduction are not adequate for an IETF document. For example, consider the first sentence, and putting aside that I don’t parse it well, I don’t think we need to make such claims in an RFC. (2) There are also several terms that are not well defined (e.g., Harmonized attributes) (3) There are statements that would not age well (e.g., will deliver) (4) There is several material in the introduction that is good for initial draft versions, but I don’t think this fits in an RFC ## Section 2: (1) I suggest to add this NEW: This document uses terms defined in [RFC5280]. X.509 certificate X.509 extensions are defined using ASN.1 [X.680] and [X.690]. (2) Define what is meant by “safety-critical communication” as this is key to identify the applicability scope of this spec. ## Section 4 (1) consider changing the various occurrences of “may be” to “is” (2) “secure software or firmware update packages”: this seems to restrict the scope to “secure” update (whatsoever that means), while Section 3 uses “signature of a software or firmware update package”. I think that we can remove “secure”. Please double check the various uses in the spec. |
2025-03-24
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05 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Mohamed Boucadair |
2025-03-20
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05 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
2025-03-12
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05 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Telechat review by OPSDIR is assigned to Bing Liu |
2025-03-09
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05 | Mohamed Boucadair | Requested Telechat review by OPSDIR |
2025-03-06
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05 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] Just two minor non-blocking comments: 1) the mention of the railway use case in the abstract is distracting, suggest removing it 2) the … [Ballot comment] Just two minor non-blocking comments: 1) the mention of the railway use case in the abstract is distracting, suggest removing it 2) the 1st paragraph is section 1 is also distracting and useless. In the same vein, have a subsection about "use case" where the railway use case can then fit nicer without disturbing the natural flow Note: based on authors/contributors' affiliations, I appreciate that this document comes from the railway use case. |
2025-03-06
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05 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2025-02-24
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05 | Erik Kline | [Ballot comment] # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Comments … [Ballot comment] # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Comments ### S1 * "will strategically be more safe and secure by fulfilling mandatory, generic system requirements related to cyber security driven by federal" I don't think this is really a defensible statement. They certainly "aim to be more safe ...", but whether they are or not is a function of a great many factors, including the quality and "up-to-date-ness" of various federal regulations. |
2025-02-24
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05 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2025-02-14
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05 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2025-02-14
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05 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-05.txt |
2025-02-14
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05 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-02-14
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05 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-02-07
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2025-04-03 |
2025-02-07
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04 | Stewart Bryant | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Stewart Bryant. Sent review to list. |
2025-02-07
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04 | Deb Cooley | Ballot has been issued |
2025-02-07
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04 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Deb Cooley |
2025-02-07
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04 | Deb Cooley | Created "Approve" ballot |
2025-02-07
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04 | Deb Cooley | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2025-02-07
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04 | Carl Wallace | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Carl Wallace. Sent review to list. |
2025-02-07
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04 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2025-02-06
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04 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-04. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-04. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there are two actions which we must complete. First, in the SMI Security for PKIX Module Identifier registry in the Structure of Management Information (SMI) Numbers (MIB Module Registrations) registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers/ a single new registration will be made as follows: Decimal: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: id-mod-automation-eku Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] As this document requests a registration in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we have completed the required Expert Review via a separate request. Second, in the SMI Security for PKIX Extended Key Purpose registry also in the Structure of Management Information (SMI) Numbers (MIB Module Registrations) registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers/ four existing Temporary registrations will be made permanent and their references changed to [ RFC-to-be ] as follows: Decimal: 41 Description: id-kp-configSigning Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Decimal: 42 Description: id-kp-trustAnchorConfigSigning Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Decimal: 43 Description: id-kp-updatePackageSigning Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Decimal: 44 Description: id-kp-safetyCommunication Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] We understand that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2025-02-06
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04 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2025-01-28
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Stewart Bryant |
2025-01-28
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04 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Carl Wallace |
2025-01-27
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04 | David Dong | IANA Experts State changed to Expert Reviews OK |
2025-01-25
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04 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-04.txt |
2025-01-25
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04 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-01-25
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04 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-01-24
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03 | Liz Flynn | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2025-01-24
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03 | Liz Flynn | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-02-07): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: debcooley1@gmail.com, draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages@ietf.org, housley@vigilsec.com, lamps-chairs@ietf.org, spasm@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-02-07): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: debcooley1@gmail.com, draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages@ietf.org, housley@vigilsec.com, lamps-chairs@ietf.org, spasm@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Automation) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME WG (lamps) to consider the following document: - 'X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Automation' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-02-07. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract RFC 5280 specifies several extended key purpose identifiers (KeyPurposeIds) for X.509 certificates. This document defines KeyPurposeIds for general-purpose and trust anchor configuration files, for software and firmware update packages, and for safety- critical communication to be included in the Extended Key Usage (EKU) extension of X.509 v3 public key certificates used by industrial automation and the ERJU System Pillar. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2025-01-24
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03 | Liz Flynn | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2025-01-24
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03 | Liz Flynn | Last call announcement was generated |
2025-01-24
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03 | Deb Cooley | Last call was requested |
2025-01-24
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03 | Deb Cooley | Last call announcement was generated |
2025-01-24
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03 | Deb Cooley | Ballot approval text was generated |
2025-01-24
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03 | (System) | Changed action holders to Deb Cooley (IESG state changed) |
2025-01-24
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03 | Deb Cooley | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed |
2025-01-23
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03 | Deb Cooley | comments are here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spasm/q9XIo7fUMs1V6CDfW3UsaCTcX2I/ |
2025-01-23
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03 | (System) | Changed action holders to Hendrik Brockhaus, David Goltzsche (IESG state changed) |
2025-01-23
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03 | Deb Cooley | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2025-01-22
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03 | Deb Cooley | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2025-01-22
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03 | Deb Cooley | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-01-22
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03 | Deb Cooley | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-01-22
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03 | Deb Cooley | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-01-16
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03 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-03.txt |
2025-01-16
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03 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-01-16
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03 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-01-14
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02 | Russ Housley | Shepherd Write-up for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-02 (1) Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did … Shepherd Write-up for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-02 (1) Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There is support for this document in the LAMPS WG. Some people originally thought that this document was needed by too few implementers to become and RFC, but after a fair amount of discussion, there was consensus to go forward when it became clear that more than one vender would likely need these key usage values. (2) Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? During the WG Last Call no one spoke against the document, and there expression of support. (3) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No one has threatened an appeal or indicated any discontent. (4) For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? It is clear that some people plan to implement. (5) Does this document need review from other IETF working groups or external organizations? Have those reviews occurred? None needed. (6) Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. ASN.1 is used. The document shepherd compiled the ASN.1 module after inserting placeholder values for the ones that need to be assigned by IANA. It compiles without errors. (7) If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? YANG is not used in the document. (8) Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. ASN.1 is used. The document shepherd compiled the ASN.1 module after inserting placeholder values for the ones that need to be assigned by IANA. It compiles without errors. (9) Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? The document shepherd finds the document clear and complete. (10) Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? The document shepherd finds no concerns. (11) What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. The datatracker indicates this intent. (12) Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. Each author has explicitly confirmed that all IPR disclosures that are required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. There are none. (13) Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Each author has explicitly confirmed their willingness to be listed as an author. All contributors are listed as authors. (14) Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. IDnits raises one issue: Found 'SHOULD not' in the text. This can be resolved with other IETF Last Call comments. (15) Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? All references are in the proper category. (16) List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are RFCs or ITU-T recommendations. All of these are freely available for download. (17) Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downrefs. (18) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? All of the normative references have already been published. (19) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. Publication of this document will not effect the status of any other documents. (20) Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). No concerns were found. The IANA Considerations ask IANA to assign some object identifiers from existing registries, and the document shepherd is the IANA Designated Expert for the registries where these will be assigned. (21) List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. No new IANA registries are needed. |
2025-01-14
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02 | Russ Housley | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2025-01-14
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02 | Russ Housley | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2025-01-14
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02 | (System) | Changed action holders to Deb Cooley (IESG state changed) |
2025-01-14
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02 | Russ Housley | Responsible AD changed to Deb Cooley |
2025-01-14
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02 | Russ Housley | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
2025-01-14
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02 | Russ Housley | Shepherd Write-up for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-02 (1) Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did … Shepherd Write-up for draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-02 (1) Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There is support for this document in the LAMPS WG. Some people originally thought that this document was needed by too few implementers to become and RFC, but after a fair amount of discussion, there was consensus to go forward when it became clear that more than one vender would likely need these key usage values. (2) Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? During the WG Last Call no one spoke against the document, and there expression of support. (3) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No one has threatened an appeal or indicated any discontent. (4) For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as RFC 7942 recommends) or elsewhere (where)? It is clear that some people plan to implement. (5) Does this document need review from other IETF working groups or external organizations? Have those reviews occurred? None needed. (6) Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. ASN.1 is used. The document shepherd compiled the ASN.1 module after inserting placeholder values for the ones that need to be assigned by IANA. It compiles without errors. (7) If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC 8342? YANG is not used in the document. (8) Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. ASN.1 is used. The document shepherd compiled the ASN.1 module after inserting placeholder values for the ones that need to be assigned by IANA. It compiles without errors. (9) Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? The document shepherd finds the document clear and complete. (10) Several IETF Areas have assembled lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter. Do any such issues remain that would merit specific attention from subsequent reviews? The document shepherd finds no concerns. (11) What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream (Best Current Practice, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Proposed Standard. The datatracker indicates this intent. (12) Has the interested community confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required by BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any discussion and conclusion regarding the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosures, including links to relevant emails. Each author has explicitly confirmed that all IPR disclosures that are required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. There are none. (13) Has each Author or Contributor confirmed their willingness to be listed as such? If the number of Authors/Editors on the front page is greater than 5, please provide a justification. Each author has explicitly confirmed their willingness to be listed as an author. All contributors are listed as authors. (14) Identify any remaining I-D nits in this document. (See the idnits tool and the checkbox items found in Guidelines to Authors of Internet-Drafts). Simply running the idnits tool is not enough; please review the entire guidelines document. IDnits raises one issue: Found 'SHOULD not' in the text. This can be resolved with other IETF Last Call comments. (15) Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? All references are in the proper category. (16) List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? All normative references are RFCs or ITU-T recommendations. All of these are freely available for download. (17) Are there any normative downward references (see RFC 3967, BCP 97)? If so, list them. There are no downrefs. (18) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion? All of the normative references have already been published. (19) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. Publication of this document will not effect the status of any other documents. (20) Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see RFC 8126). No concerns were found. The IANA Considerations ask IANA to assign some object identifiers from existing registries, and the document shepherd is the IANA Designated Expert for the registries where these will be assigned. (21) List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. No new IANA registries are needed. |
2025-01-07
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02 | Russ Housley | Notification list changed to housley@vigilsec.com because the document shepherd was set |
2025-01-07
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02 | Russ Housley | Document shepherd changed to Russ Housley |
2025-01-07
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02 | Russ Housley | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2025-01-07
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02 | Russ Housley | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2025-01-07
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02 | Russ Housley | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC cleared. |
2025-01-07
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02 | Russ Housley | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2025-01-07
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02 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-02.txt |
2025-01-07
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02 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2025-01-07
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02 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2025-01-06
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01 | Russ Housley | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC set. |
2025-01-06
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01 | Russ Housley | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2024-12-16
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01 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-01.txt |
2024-12-16
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01 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Hendrik Brockhaus) |
2024-12-16
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01 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |
2024-12-12
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00 | Russ Housley | This document now replaces draft-brockhaus-lamps-automation-keyusages instead of None |
2024-12-12
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00 | Hendrik Brockhaus | New version available: draft-ietf-lamps-automation-keyusages-00.txt |
2024-12-12
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00 | Russ Housley | WG -00 approved |
2024-12-12
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00 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Set submitter to "Hendrik Brockhaus ", replaces to draft-brockhaus-lamps-automation-keyusages and sent approval email to group chairs: lamps-chairs@ietf.org |
2024-12-12
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00 | Hendrik Brockhaus | Uploaded new revision |