T.140 Real-Time Text Conversation over WebRTC Data Channels
draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-14
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2020-09-28
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2020-09-15
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2020-07-22
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14 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR |
2020-06-05
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14 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT |
2020-04-15
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14 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2020-04-15
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14 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
2020-04-15
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14 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2020-04-15
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14 | Tero Kivinen | Closed request for Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events' |
2020-04-15
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14 | Tero Kivinen | Assignment of request for Last Call review by SECDIR to Takeshi Takahashi was marked no-response |
2020-04-14
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14 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2020-04-10
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14 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-14.txt |
2020-04-10
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14 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-04-10
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14 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Gunnar Hellstrom , Christer Holmberg |
2020-04-10
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14 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2020-04-10
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13 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2020-04-10
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13 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2020-04-10
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13 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2020-04-10
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13 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2020-04-10
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13 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2020-04-10
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13 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2020-04-10
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13 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2020-04-10
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13 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2020-04-10
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13 | Murray Kucherawy | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2020-04-10
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13 | Martin Duke | [Ballot comment] Thanks for the changes. I believe this substantially addresses my DISCUSS. However, we've created a couple of nits: - In Section 5.3, the … [Ballot comment] Thanks for the changes. I believe this substantially addresses my DISCUSS. However, we've created a couple of nits: - In Section 5.3, the MAY was added to the first paragraph instead of the second. I don't object to having one in the first paragraph, but don't feel it to be necessary. - In 5.4, "channels.As" needs a space in there. Old comment (which has been addressed): The Tsvarea review cites a few other places where the 2119 language is a little loose, e.g. MUSTs with vague and unenforceable criteria. |
2020-04-10
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13 | Martin Duke | Ballot comment text updated for Martin Duke |
2020-04-09
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13 | Martin Duke | [Ballot comment] Thanks for the changes. I believe this substantially addresses my DISCUSS. However, we've created a couple of nits: - In Section 5.3, the … [Ballot comment] Thanks for the changes. I believe this substantially addresses my DISCUSS. However, we've created a couple of nits: - In Section 5.3, the MAY was added to the first paragraph instead of the second. I don't object to having one in the first paragraph, but don't feel it to be necessary. - In 5.4, "channels.As" needs a space in there. Old comment: The Tsvarea review cites a few other places where the 2119 language is a little loose, e.g. MUSTs with vague and unenforceable criteria. |
2020-04-09
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13 | Martin Duke | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Martin Duke has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2020-04-09
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13 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-04-09
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13 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2020-04-09
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13 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-13.txt |
2020-04-09
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13 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-04-09
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13 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg , mmusic-chairs@ietf.org |
2020-04-09
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13 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2020-04-09
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12 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2020-04-09
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12 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Magnus Westerlund has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2020-04-08
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12 | Martin Vigoureux | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux |
2020-04-08
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12 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] Thank you for the document and some bonus point for using only IPv6 in your examples ;-) -éric |
2020-04-08
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12 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2020-04-08
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12 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2020-04-08
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12 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot comment] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
2020-04-08
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12 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Warren Kumari |
2020-04-08
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12 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Robert Wilton |
2020-04-07
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12 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] I eagerly await further discussion of the TSV(-art/-AD) comments but have nothing to contribute to such discussion. It's kind of interesting that we … [Ballot comment] I eagerly await further discussion of the TSV(-art/-AD) comments but have nothing to contribute to such discussion. It's kind of interesting that we negotiate the human language to be used for the ... human-entered text. Are we expecting the user-agents to enforce the result of that negotiation, or just send whatever the users type, even if it is in some other language? Section 4.1 The offerer and answerer MUST NOT include the max-retr or the max- time attribute parameters in the 'dcmap' attribute. If any of the attribute parameters is received in an offer, the answerer MUST reject the offer. If any of the attribute parameters is received in s/any of the/either of those/? (twice) Section 4.2.3.3 If the answerer has not marked the direction of a T.140 data channel in accordance with the procedures above, it is RECOMMENDED that the offerer does not process that as an error situation, but rather assume that the answerer might both send and receive T.140 data on the data channel. My SDP O/A is a bit rusty, but isn't that a divergence from the default behavior of "treat it as an error"? Perhaps we could say something about why diverging from the default is deemed best. Section 5.2 Each T140block is sent on the SCTP stream [RFC4960] used to realize the T.140 data channel using standard T.140 transmission procedures [T140]. [...] I'm not really sure what is meant by "standard T.140 transmission procedures" -- is that supposed to cover the process by which the webrtc stack receives the T.140 input or something done within webrtc? Data sending and reporting procedures conform to [T140]. I don't see any instance of the string "report" in file:///home/bkaduk/Downloads/T-REC-T.140-199802-I!!PDF-E.pdf; am I missing something? Section 5.4 might have been lost. Different mechanisms used by sending and receiving endpoints to detect or suspect text loss are outside the scope of this specification. I think I can accept that, but do we have reason to believe that any such mechanisms are possible? Section 6 o During a normal text flow, T140blocks received from one network are forwarded towards the other network. Keep-alive traffic is implicit on the T.140 data channel. A gateway might have to I'm not sure what reference I should look at to understand what is meant by "keep-alive traffic is implicit". Section 7 I confess I don't really understand what part of RFC 8373 was media-type specific and needed updating for use by this document. I guess I could see a need for some new specification regarding the attributes' usage, since we need something to point to for translating them from media-level attributes to data-channel-level attributes, but that doesn't seem to be what this is claiming to do. draft-ietf-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg seems to already cover the general behavior that when data channels are used, they get data-channel-level attributes for things that would be media attributes of the corresponding subprotocol as a media type. Maybe I'm more rusty on SDP O/A than I thought... Section 8 The generic security considerations for WebRTC data channels are defined in [I-D.ietf-rtcweb-data-channel]. As data channels are Perhaps it is worth pre-dereferencing the reference chain to rtcweb-security and rtcweb-security-arch directly? It also seems appropriate to reiterate the note from earlier in the document that "no mechanism to provide end-to-end encryption of T.140 data is defined at the time of this writing" and the consequences thereof when the channel itself is not end-to-end. Section 11.1 We should maybe sprinkle a couple more RFC 3264 refs; the current one doesn't seem to be in a normative manner (though I don't dispute the status of 3264 as a normative reference!). |
2020-04-07
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12 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk |
2020-04-07
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12 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] ** I support Martin Duke’s DISCUSS position. ** Section 5.4 Initially: “As a T.140 data channel does not provide a mechanism for the … [Ballot comment] ** I support Martin Duke’s DISCUSS position. ** Section 5.4 Initially: “As a T.140 data channel does not provide a mechanism for the receiver to identify retransmitted T140blocks after channel reestablishment, the sending endpoint MUST NOT retransmit T140blocks unless it has strong indications that a T140block has been lost during the data channel failure.” Later: “Different mechanisms used by sending and receiving endpoints to detect or suspect text loss are outside the scope of this specification.” How is this normative MUST NOT supposed to be evaluated if the the explanation of “strong indications” is not explained in this document and no reference is provided? |
2020-04-07
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12 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2020-04-07
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12 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2020-04-07
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12 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot discuss] Section 4.1: The offerer and answerer MUST NOT include the max-retr or the max- time attribute parameters in the 'dcmap' attribute. … [Ballot discuss] Section 4.1: The offerer and answerer MUST NOT include the max-retr or the max- time attribute parameters in the 'dcmap' attribute. This is just an example of a issue that is exists in basically all of the RFC 2119 terminolgy using sentences in this section. The formulation is that the offerer or answerer must do something with attributes or parameters of the dcmap attribute. However, it is not stated to be specific to the dcmap attribute that specifically specify something for a T.140 SCTP stream. I think that scope restriction needs to be made more explicit for these RFC 2119 statements. Else they would have applicability as soon as one support this specification. |
2020-04-07
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12 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2020-04-06
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12 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] Thanks for this document. I have just one comment about BCP 14 key words that I don’t think has come up elsewhere: — … [Ballot comment] Thanks for this document. I have just one comment about BCP 14 key words that I don’t think has come up elsewhere: — Section 5.3 — It is RECOMMENDED to use the default transmission interval of 300 milliseconds [RFC4103], for T.140 data channels. Implementers MAY also use lower values, for specific applications requiring low latency, taking the increased overhead in consideration. Given the “RECOMMENDED” in the first sentence, I don’t think the second sentence is really a BCP 10 “MAY”, but should be “may” (or “might”). Actually, I think I would also remove the first comma, as, “Implementers might use lower values for specific applications requiring low latency, taking the increased overhead in consideration.” |
2020-04-06
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12 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2020-04-06
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12 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2020-04-05
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12 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2020-04-04
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12 | Martin Duke | [Ballot discuss] I am confused as to the expected/allowed behavior regarding the cps attribute parameter. In RFC 4103 Section 6 it says receivers MUST be … [Ballot discuss] I am confused as to the expected/allowed behavior regarding the cps attribute parameter. In RFC 4103 Section 6 it says receivers MUST be able to handle temporary bursts over the cps rate but senders MUST stay below the rate. In section 5.3 it says senders “can” (probably need a 2119 word here) buffer blocks to stay below cps. There is a 500ms limit so this has its limitations. Shouldn’t the buffer time be unbounded if characters are coming in at a rate above cps? Meanwhile in section 4.2.1 it suggests that receivers use sendOnly or inactive (I presume these are the right direction values) to effectively flow control the incoming data. 4566bis seems to only envision this at the start of a channel. What is the impact of pending data if the directionality of the channel changes? How does this interact with the maximum buffer time? I suggest 4.2.1 be clearer on what actions a cps sender and receiver MAY/SHOULD/MUST take, and make sure there aren’t contradictory requirements. |
2020-04-04
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12 | Martin Duke | [Ballot comment] The Tsvarea review cites a few other places where the 2119 language is a little loose, e.g. MUSTs with vague and unenforceable criteria. |
2020-04-04
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12 | Martin Duke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Martin Duke |
2020-04-03
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12 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2020-03-30
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12 | Amy Vezza | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2020-04-09 |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot comment] Section 4.2.3.3: Why might an implementer choose to deviate from the RECOMMENDED? Section 5.5: “This would allow the receiver to present real-time text … [Ballot comment] Section 4.2.3.3: Why might an implementer choose to deviate from the RECOMMENDED? Section 5.5: “This would allow the receiver to present real-time text from different sources separated.” Did you mean “separately”? “The procedures of such mechanism is outside the scope of this document.” s/is/are/ Sections 9.2, 9.3, 9.4: Please give the name of the registry being updated. |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | Ballot comment text updated for Murray Kucherawy |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | Ballot has been issued |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | Created "Approve" ballot |
2020-03-27
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12 | Murray Kucherawy | Ballot writeup was changed |
2020-03-27
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12 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Michael Scharf. Submission of review completed at an earlier date. |
2020-03-26
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12 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2020-03-26
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12 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-12.txt |
2020-03-26
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12 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-03-26
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12 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2020-03-26
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12 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2020-03-25
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11 | Murray Kucherawy | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2020-03-25
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11 | Murray Kucherawy | Ballot writeup was changed |
2020-03-25
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11 | Amy Vezza | Shepherding AD changed to Murray Kucherawy |
2020-02-19
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11 | Sabrina Tanamal | IANA Experts State changed to Expert Reviews OK from Reviews assigned |
2020-02-19
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11 | Sabrina Tanamal | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2020-02-14
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11 | Linda Dunbar | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Linda Dunbar. Sent review to list. |
2020-02-06
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11 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2020-02-05
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11 | Sabrina Tanamal | IANA Experts State changed to Reviews assigned |
2020-02-05
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11 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
2020-02-05
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11 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-11. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-11. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there are four actions which we must complete. First, in the WebSocket Subprotocol Name Registry on the WebSocket Protocol Registries registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/websocket/ Subprotocol identifier: t140 Subprotocol common name: ITU-T T.140 Subprotocol definition: [ RFC-to-be ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Change controller: Second, in the att-field registry on the Session Description Protocol (SDP) Parameters registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters/ the existing registration for the attribute fmtp is to be modified in accordance with [draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc4566bis] as follows: Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: fmtp Purpose: Indicate the maximum transmission rate that an endpoint is willing to receive on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] As this document requests registrations in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we will initiate the required Expert Review via a separate request. This review must be completed before the document's IANA state can be changed to "IANA OK." Third, also in the att-field registry on the Session Description Protocol (SDP) Parameters registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters/ the existing registrations for the attributes hlang-send and hlang-recv are to be modified in accordance with [draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc4566bis] as follows: Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: hlang-send Purpose: Negotiate the language to be used on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: hlang-recv Purpose: Negotiate the language to be used on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] As this also requests registrations in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we will initiate the required Expert Review via a separate request. This review must be completed before the document's IANA state can be changed to "IANA OK." Fourth, also in the att-field registry on the Session Description Protocol (SDP) Parameters registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/sdp-parameters/ the existing registrations for the attributes sendonly, recvonly, sendrecv and inactive are to be modified in accordance with [draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc4566bis] as follows: Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: sendonly Purpose: Negotiate the direction in which real-time text can be sent on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: recvonly Purpose: Negotiate the direction in which real-time text can be sent on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: sendrecv Purpose: Negotiate the direction in which real-time text can be sent on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Usage level: dcsa(t140) Attribute name: inactive Purpose: Negotiate the direction in which real-time text can be sent on a T.140 data channel. Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] As this also requests registrations in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we will initiate the required Expert Review via a separate request. This review must be completed before the document's IANA state can be changed to "IANA OK." The IANA Functions Operator understands that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist |
2020-02-03
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11 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Zitao Wang |
2020-02-03
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11 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Zitao Wang |
2020-01-30
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11 | Tero Kivinen | Closed request for Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'Withdrawn' |
2020-01-30
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11 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Takeshi Takahashi |
2020-01-30
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11 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Takeshi Takahashi |
2020-01-30
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11 | Tero Kivinen | Assignment of request for Last Call review by SECDIR to Rifaat Shekh-Yusef was withdrawn |
2020-01-30
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11 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Rifaat Shekh-Yusef |
2020-01-30
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11 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Rifaat Shekh-Yusef |
2020-01-28
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12 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Michael Scharf. |
2020-01-28
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11 | Michael Scharf | Request for Last Call review by TSVART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Michael Scharf. Sent review to list. |
2020-01-27
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11 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART is assigned to Michael Scharf |
2020-01-27
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11 | Wesley Eddy | Request for Last Call review by TSVART is assigned to Michael Scharf |
2020-01-23
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11 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Linda Dunbar |
2020-01-23
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11 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Linda Dunbar |
2020-01-23
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11 | Cindy Morgan | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2020-01-23
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11 | Cindy Morgan | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2020-02-06): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: mmusic-chairs@ietf.org, adam@nostrum.com, mmusic@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel@ietf.org, Flemming … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2020-02-06): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: mmusic-chairs@ietf.org, adam@nostrum.com, mmusic@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel@ietf.org, Flemming Andreasen , fandreas@cisco.com Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (T.140 Real-time Text Conversation over WebRTC Data Channels) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control WG (mmusic) to consider the following document: - 'T.140 Real-time Text Conversation over WebRTC Data Channels' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-02-06. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies how a WebRTC data channel can be used as a transport mechanism for Real-time text using the ITU-T Protocol for multimedia application text conversation (Recommendation ITU-T T.140), and how the SDP offer/answer mechanism can be used to negotiate such data channel, referred to as T.140 data channel. The document updates RFC 8373. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2020-01-23
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11 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2020-01-23
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11 | Adam Roach | Last call was requested |
2020-01-23
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11 | Adam Roach | Last call announcement was generated |
2020-01-23
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11 | Adam Roach | Ballot approval text was generated |
2020-01-23
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11 | Adam Roach | See AD review at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mmusic/CKJESbNkyQPujcRCHbBE4Zf-GHg |
2020-01-23
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11 | Adam Roach | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested |
2020-01-23
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11 | Adam Roach | Ballot writeup was changed |
2019-12-19
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11 | Flemming Andreasen | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 1 November 2019. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. The intended status is shown as “Standards Track”, which is appropriate since the document updates RFC 8373 and defines how to signal “T.140 over WebRTC Data Channels” in the Session Description Protocol (SDP). (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. The document specifies how a WebRTC data channel can be used as a transport mechanism for Real-time text using the ITU-T Protocol for multimedia application text conversation (Recommendation ITU-T T.140), and how the SDP offer/answer mechanism can be used to negotiate such data channel, referred to as T.140 data channel. The document updates RFC 8373. Working Group Summary: Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No controversy or other concerns. The document has progressed remarkably quickly in the WG, while at the same time seen good discussion and participation from several people. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? There are existing implementations of the WebRTC data channels, however we are not aware of implementations for the T.140 data channel usage Gunnar Hellström provided very good comments and input Additional expert reviews are not needed. Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Flemming Andreasen is the Documenet Shepherd Adam Roach is the Responsible Area Director (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I have reviewed -08 in detail as well as the subsequent changes up to -11 (the current version). (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No concerns. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. N/A (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. N/A (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? The author has confirmed (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. N/A (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The document has seen decent WG participation in the document and there is solid consensus behind it. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) N/A (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. The document normatively references ITU-T T.140 and ITU-T T.140 Addendum 1, which is causing 2 comments. There are no other noteworthy nits. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. There are no such extensions in the document and hence no formal reviews. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. The document normatively references ITU-T T.140 and ITU-T T.140 Addendum 1, which causes a “possible downref” comment. However, since these are ITU-T Recommendations and hence considered “open external standards” per RFC 2026, this should not be an issue. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. The document updates RFC 8373, which is shown on the title page and called out in the Abstract and the Introduction (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 8126). I have reviewed the IANA registrations in accordance with the above and found them to comply. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. N/A (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, YANG modules, etc. N/A (20) If the document contains a YANG module, has the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools) for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC8342? N/A |
2019-12-19
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11 | Flemming Andreasen | Responsible AD changed to Adam Roach |
2019-12-19
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11 | Flemming Andreasen | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2019-12-19
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11 | Flemming Andreasen | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2019-12-19
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11 | Flemming Andreasen | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2019-12-19
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11 | Flemming Andreasen | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 1 November 2019. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. The intended status is shown as “Standards Track”, which is appropriate since the document updates RFC 8373 and defines how to signal “T.140 over WebRTC Data Channels” in the Session Description Protocol (SDP). (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary: Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. The document specifies how a WebRTC data channel can be used as a transport mechanism for Real-time text using the ITU-T Protocol for multimedia application text conversation (Recommendation ITU-T T.140), and how the SDP offer/answer mechanism can be used to negotiate such data channel, referred to as T.140 data channel. The document updates RFC 8373. Working Group Summary: Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? No controversy or other concerns. The document has progressed remarkably quickly in the WG, while at the same time seen good discussion and participation from several people. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? There are existing implementations of the WebRTC data channels, however we are not aware of implementations for the T.140 data channel usage Gunnar Hellström provided very good comments and input Additional expert reviews are not needed. Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Flemming Andreasen is the Documenet Shepherd Adam Roach is the Responsible Area Director (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I have reviewed -08 in detail as well as the subsequent changes up to -11 (the current version). (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No concerns. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. N/A (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. N/A (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why? The author has confirmed (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. N/A (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The document has seen decent WG participation in the document and there is solid consensus behind it. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) N/A (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. The document normatively references ITU-T T.140 and ITU-T T.140 Addendum 1, which is causing 2 comments. There are no other noteworthy nits. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. There are no such extensions in the document and hence no formal reviews. (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? No (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. The document normatively references ITU-T T.140 and ITU-T T.140 Addendum 1, which causes a “possible downref” comment. However, since these are ITU-T Recommendations and hence considered “open external standards” per RFC 2026, this should not be an issue. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. The document updates RFC 8373, which is shown on the title page and called out in the Abstract and the Introduction (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 8126). I have reviewed the IANA registrations in accordance with the above and found them to comply. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. N/A (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, YANG modules, etc. N/A (20) If the document contains a YANG module, has the module been checked with any of the recommended validation tools (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-review-tools) for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in RFC8342? N/A |
2019-12-19
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11 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-11.txt |
2019-12-19
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11 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-12-19
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11 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-12-19
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11 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-12-10
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10 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-10.txt |
2019-12-10
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10 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-12-10
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10 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-12-10
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10 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-11-28
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09 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-09.txt |
2019-11-28
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09 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-11-28
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09 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-11-28
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09 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-11-18
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08 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-08.txt |
2019-11-18
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08 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-11-18
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08 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-11-18
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08 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-10-25
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07 | Flemming Andreasen | Notification list changed to Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> |
2019-10-25
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07 | Flemming Andreasen | Document shepherd changed to Flemming Andreasen |
2019-10-22
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07 | Bo Burman | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2019-10-17
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07 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-07.txt |
2019-10-17
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-10-17
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-10-17
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07 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-10-02
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06 | Bo Burman | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2019-10-02
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06 | Bo Burman | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2019-10-02
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06 | Bo Burman | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2019-09-30
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06 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-06.txt |
2019-09-30
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-30
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-09-30
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06 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-23
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05 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-05.txt |
2019-09-23
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-23
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-09-23
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05 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-23
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04 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-04.txt |
2019-09-23
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-23
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-09-23
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04 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-17
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03 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-03.txt |
2019-09-17
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-17
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-09-17
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03 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-13
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02 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-02.txt |
2019-09-13
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-13
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-09-13
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02 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-10
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01 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-01.txt |
2019-09-10
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-09-10
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Christer Holmberg |
2019-09-10
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01 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |
2019-09-05
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00 | Bo Burman | This document now replaces draft-holmberg-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel instead of None |
2019-09-05
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00 | Christer Holmberg | New version available: draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-00.txt |
2019-09-05
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
2019-09-04
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00 | Christer Holmberg | Set submitter to "Christer Holmberg ", replaces to (none) and sent approval email to group chairs: mmusic-chairs@ietf.org |
2019-09-04
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00 | Christer Holmberg | Uploaded new revision |