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A Clarification on the Use of Globally Routable User Agent URIs (GRUUs) in the SIP Event Notification Framework
draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification-00

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2015-08-06
00 (System) RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48
2015-08-03
00 (System) RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR
2015-08-03
00 (System) RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT
2015-06-30
00 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent
2015-06-30
00 (System) RFC Editor state changed to EDIT
2015-06-30
00 (System) Announcement was received by RFC Editor
2015-06-30
00 (System) IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress
2015-06-30
00 (System) IANA Action state changed to In Progress
2015-06-30
00 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Tim Wicinski.
2015-06-30
00 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed
2015-06-30
00 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2015-06-30
00 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2015-06-30
00 Amy Vezza Ballot writeup was changed
2015-06-29
00 Ben Campbell Ballot approval text was generated
2015-06-25
00 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation
2015-06-25
00 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2015-06-24
00 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2015-06-24
00 Cindy Morgan Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2015-06-24
00 Jari Arkko [Ballot comment]
Tom Taylor's Gen-ART question from a couple of days ago deserves an answer and I haven't seen one yet.
2015-06-24
00 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2015-06-24
00 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2015-06-24
00 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2015-06-23
00 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2015-06-22
00 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2015-06-22
00 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2015-06-22
00 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2015-06-22
00 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2015-06-22
00 Kathleen Moriarty
[Ballot comment]
This was probably caught by now, but the introduction says this update exists because of lack of clarity in RFC2119, when it …
[Ballot comment]
This was probably caught by now, but the introduction says this update exists because of lack of clarity in RFC2119, when it was meant to say in RFC6665.

The SecDir reviewer asked a few clarifying questions that would be good to see answered:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg05789.html
2015-06-22
00 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2015-06-19
00 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2015-06-18
00 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Hilarie Orman.
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell Placed on agenda for telechat - 2015-06-25
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell Ballot has been issued
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ben Campbell
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell Created "Approve" ballot
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell Ballot writeup was changed
2015-06-17
00 Ben Campbell Ballot writeup was changed
2015-06-17
00 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call
2015-06-16
00 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed
2015-06-16
00 Amanda Baber
(Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification-00, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that this …
(Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification-00, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that this document doesn't require any IANA actions.

While it is helpful for the IANA Considerations section of the document to remain in place upon publication, if the authors prefer to remove it, IANA doesn't object.

If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible.
2015-06-08
00 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Tim Wicinski
2015-06-08
00 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Tim Wicinski
2015-06-05
00 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Hilarie Orman
2015-06-05
00 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Hilarie Orman
2015-06-04
00 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Tom Taylor
2015-06-04
00 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Tom Taylor
2015-06-03
00 Cindy Morgan IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2015-06-03
00 Cindy Morgan
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC:
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (A clarification on the use …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC:
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (A clarification on the use of Globally Routable User Agent URIs (GRUUs) in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Notification Framework) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Session Initiation Protocol Core
WG (sipcore) to consider the following document:
- 'A clarification on the use of Globally Routable User Agent URIs
  (GRUUs) in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Notification
  Framework'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-06-17. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  Experience since the publication of the most recent SIP Events
  framework has shown that there is room for interpretation around the
  use of Globally Routable User Agent URIs in that specification.  This
  document clarifies the intended behavior.

  This document updates RFC 6665.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


2015-06-03
00 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell Last call was requested
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell Last call announcement was generated
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell Ballot writeup was changed
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell Ballot writeup was generated
2015-06-03
00 Ben Campbell Ballot approval text was generated
2015-05-22
00 Amy Vezza Notification list changed to draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification.ad@ietf.org, draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification.shepherd@ietf.org, draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification@ietf.org, pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu, sipcore-chairs@ietf.org from "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
2015-05-21
00 Adam Roach
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification-00:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, …
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification-00:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  This document is marked as Standards Track in the title page header,
  and that seems appropriate, because it is clarifying normative
  behavior in RFC6665, that is itself standards track.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved
documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections:

Technical Summary

  Experience since the publication of the most recent SIP Events
  framework (RFC6665) has shown that there is room for interpretation
  around the use of Globally Routable User Agent URIs in that
  specification.  This document clarifies the intended behavior.

Working Group Summary

Context: The base SIP specification (RFC3261) introduced (implicitly) the notion of dialog reuse - multiple "usages" of a dialog. For instance, an INVITE usage combined with an event subscription, or multiple event subscriptions. The SIP REFER mechanism (RFC3515) provides a widely used mechanism that creates *implicit* SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY dialog usages. When used within an INVITE dialog (as it typically is) it causes dialog reuse.

Unfortunately the dialog reuse concept was "half baked", and issues arose around it as it was implemented. This was discussed by RFC5057, recommending that such multiple usages be avoided. RFC5627 added the GRUU mechanism to SIP, providing a way to avoid many instances of dialog sharing. But GRUUs have been controversial - they are complex and far from universally implemented/deployed. A draft (draft-kaplan-dispatch-gruu-problematic-00) raised specific issues with deployment of GRUUs, but that draft expired without having reached consensus. It suggested that GRUUs not be used, and that other mechanisms be used to get around the need for them. But there has been no further work proposed on this since 2011.

The elephant in the room is that there are many deployments that still don't provide GRUUs, and don't intend to do so. Some continue to seek ways that they can be compliant with RFC6665 and yet still avoid implementing GRUU, by arranging their feature implementations to carefully avoid any usage that would require them to do so.

Nevertheless, all these issues have been aired in the WG, and there is consensus to advance this draft and the companion drafts.

Document Quality

  [Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a
  significant number of vendors indicated their plan to
  implement the specification?]

  I'm not aware of any implementations yet.
  It is my understanding that 3GPP release 12 has a reference,
  indicating that implementations can be expected.

  This document has been thoroughly reviewed and discussed. Everyone
  that had something to say has aired it.

Personnel

  The document shepherd is Paul Kyzivat.
  The area director is Ben Campbell.

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
the Document Shepherd.  If this version of the document is not ready
for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
the IESG.

  The shepherd was a SIPCORE chairman during the entire period while this
  document was introduced and discussed. He has followed (and participated
  in) the discussion and reviewed the document carefully.

(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
breadth of the reviews that have been performed? 

  NO.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
took place.

  NO.

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd
has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the
IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable
with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really
is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and
has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
concerns here.

  In spite of the apparent consensus on this draft, there is some
  chance that those who have problems with GRUU simply intend to
  ignore this draft or pretend/actually fail to support RFC6665.

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78
and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why.

  YES.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document?
If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
disclosures.

  NO.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? 

  There is good consensus.

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate
email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a
separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.)

  NO.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts
Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be
thorough.

  One issue from IdNits:

  == Couldn't figure out when the document was first submitted -- there may
    comments or warnings related to the use of a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378
    work that could not be issued because of this.  Please check the Legal
    Provisions document at http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info to determine
    if you need the pre-RFC5378 disclaimer.

  This issue is bogus for this draft.

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

  N/A

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
either normative or informative?

  All references are normative, and appropriately so.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for
advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative
references exist, what is the plan for their completion?

  NO.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)?
If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in
the Last Call procedure.

  NO.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
existing RFCs?

  YES.

Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed
in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction?

  YES.

  ** EXCEPT: in intro, ref to RFC2119 should be to 6665. **
  Author has been made aware of this. Plan is to fix together with
  any AD comments.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations
section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the
document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes
are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries.
Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly
identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a
detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a
reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226).

  IANA considerations are empty, and appropriately so.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future
allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find
useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries.

  NONE.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

  N/A.

2015-05-21
00 Adam Roach Responsible AD changed to Ben Campbell
2015-05-21
00 Adam Roach IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up
2015-05-21
00 Adam Roach IESG state changed to Publication Requested
2015-05-21
00 Adam Roach IESG process started in state Publication Requested
2015-05-21
00 Adam Roach Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WG cleared.
2015-04-29
00 Paul Kyzivat Changed document writeup
2015-03-25
00 Adam Roach This document now replaces draft-roach-sipcore-6665-clarification instead of None
2015-03-25
00 Adam Roach Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None
2015-03-25
00 Adam Roach Notification list changed to "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
2015-03-25
00 Adam Roach Document shepherd changed to Paul Kyzivat
2015-03-25
00 Adam Roach Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WG set.
2015-03-25
00 Adam Roach IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from WG Document
2015-02-27
00 Adam Roach New version available: draft-ietf-sipcore-6665-clarification-00.txt