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Framework for Transcoding with the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-05

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Date Rev. By Action
2007-02-05
05 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2007-01-30
05 (System) IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress
2007-01-30
05 (System) IANA Action state changed to In Progress
2007-01-25
05 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2007-01-25
05 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2007-01-25
05 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2007-01-25
05 Amy Vezza State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza
2006-12-16
05 Cullen Jennings [Ballot discuss]
2006-12-16
05 Cullen Jennings [Ballot Position Update] Position for Cullen Jennings has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Cullen Jennings
2006-12-01
05 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-05.txt
2006-11-08
05 (System) Request for Early review by SECDIR is assigned to Love Astrand
2006-11-08
05 (System) Request for Early review by SECDIR is assigned to Love Astrand
2006-10-28
05 Cullen Jennings
[Ballot discuss]
Section 2 implies there is a way for the caller to find out about the callee's capabilities. If the callee has two UAs, …
[Ballot discuss]
Section 2 implies there is a way for the caller to find out about the callee's capabilities. If the callee has two UAs, one that only does G.711 and one that only has a GSM codec, I don't think the caller can figure out what they need to do beforehand. The problem happens when there is the combination of multiple UAs with different capabilities and parallel forking.
2006-08-17
05 Amy Vezza State Changes to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza
2006-08-17
05 Cullen Jennings
[Ballot discuss]
SIP does not require the the Offer to be in the INVITE, and in these cases it seems like the 3PCC approach will …
[Ballot discuss]
SIP does not require the the Offer to be in the INVITE, and in these cases it seems like the 3PCC approach will not work. Since this documents defines two approaches, I think it would be worth pointing out that the conferencing approach is preferred or at least some of the limitations of the 3PCC approach.

Section 2 implies there is a way for the caller to find out about the callee's capabilities. If the callee has two UAs, one that only does G.711 and one that only has a GSM codec, I don't think the caller can figure out what they need to do beforehand.
2006-08-17
05 Cullen Jennings [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Cullen Jennings by Cullen Jennings
2006-08-17
05 Mark Townsley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mark Townsley by Mark Townsley
2006-08-17
05 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko by Jari Arkko
2006-08-16
05 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2006-08-16
05 Lisa Dusseault [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Lisa Dusseault by Lisa Dusseault
2006-08-15
05 Ross Callon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ross Callon by Ross Callon
2006-08-15
05 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2006-08-15
05 Lars Eggert [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Lars Eggert by Lars Eggert
2006-08-14
05 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie
2006-08-14
05 (System) State Changes to IESG Evaluation from IESG Evaluation - Defer by system
2006-08-04
05 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2006-08-03
2006-08-02
05 Brian Carpenter
[Ballot comment]
From Gen-ART review by Michael Patton:

...if the document is being changed due to some other
issues, the editors might consider these changes …
[Ballot comment]
From Gen-ART review by Michael Patton:

...if the document is being changed due to some other
issues, the editors might consider these changes as well.


Minor comments
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I do not believe that all the Normative references are, in fact,
Normative.  In particular, [1] and [8] are only referenced in a "for
example ... could be used" style, which is clearly only Informative.

There is a transcoding case that I think might be a useful example,
but doesn't appear anywhere in the document.  If there is a rewrite,
you may wish to mention it somewhere for additional support.  Perhaps
in the introduction.  The case I'm thinking of is where the two ends
do not support a common bandwidth, perhaps one end only supports high
quality (and therefore high bandwidth) video, but the other end is
bandwidth constrained and requires a different encoding with lower BW
requirements.  For most combinations like this, it would be possible
to have a transcoder that solves the mismatch.  It might even be
offered as a standard option at the ingress to the lower BW portion of
the network.


I note that this document along with references [10] and [11] actually
forms a loosely coupled set, where I understand this document is an
informational overview and the other two are details of the two
approaches.  I applaud this approach, if that's what is intended, but
would like to see that relationship described in this document.  Once
again, a suggestion for better clarity, but not worth holding up the
document if nothing else is being changed.


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  The following editorial issues are noted for the convenience
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Clarity
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In Section 3 very near the top of Page 5, you have a reference for
3pcc to reference [7].  Would it also be productive to reference [10]
as well there?  Also, that paragraph has no reference for the bridge
model.  Should [11] be referenced?


Typos
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Section 3.1: "This model also allows to invoke" => "This model also
allows invoking"
2006-08-02
05 Brian Carpenter [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Carpenter by Brian Carpenter
2006-08-01
05 Russ Housley State Changes to IESG Evaluation - Defer from IESG Evaluation by Russ Housley
2006-07-30
05 Sam Hartman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sam Hartman by Sam Hartman
2006-07-27
05 Jon Peterson [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jon Peterson
2006-07-27
05 Jon Peterson Ballot has been issued by Jon Peterson
2006-07-27
05 Jon Peterson Created "Approve" ballot
2006-07-27
05 Jon Peterson Placed on agenda for telechat - 2006-08-03 by Jon Peterson
2006-07-27
05 Jon Peterson State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Jon Peterson
2006-07-19
05 Jon Peterson State Changes to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from Waiting for Writeup by Jon Peterson
2006-07-19
05 Jon Peterson State Change Notice email list have been change to sipping-chairs@tools.ietf.org from gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com, dean.willis@softarmor.com, rohan@ekabal.com
2006-07-19
05 Yoshiko Fong IANA Last Call Comment:

As described in the IANA COnsiderations section, we understand this document to
have NO IANA Actions.
2006-06-28
05 (System) State has been changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call by system
2006-06-14
05 Michael Lee Last call sent
2006-06-14
05 Michael Lee State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Michael Lee
2006-06-13
05 Jon Peterson Last Call was requested by Jon Peterson
2006-06-13
05 Jon Peterson State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Jon Peterson
2006-06-13
05 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2006-06-13
05 (System) Last call text was added
2006-06-13
05 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2006-05-22
05 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed
2006-05-22
04 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-04.txt
2006-05-02
05 Jon Peterson State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Jon Peterson
2006-03-29
05 Jon Peterson Shepherding AD has been changed to Jon Peterson from Allison Mankin
2006-02-17
05 Allison Mankin State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Allison Mankin
2006-02-15
05 Dinara Suleymanova
PROTO Write-up

1.a) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the Internet
Draft (ID), and in particular, do they believe this ID is ready …
PROTO Write-up

1.a) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the Internet
Draft (ID), and in particular, do they believe this ID is ready
to forward to the IESG for publication?

The document was reviewed by chairs Rohan Mahy and Dean Willis and
authored by chair Gonzalo Camarillo. We believe this document is
ready for publication.

1.b) Has the document had adequate review from both key WG members
and key non-WG members? Do you have any concerns about the
depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

The document has been well-reviewed by the working group, but has
received little review from outside the working group. Given the
narrow scope of the document and its "framework" nature, this should
be acceptable.

1.c) Do you have concerns that the document needs more review from a
particular (broader) perspective (e.g., security, operational
complexity, someone familiar with AAA, etc.)?

I have no concerns of this nature.

1.d) Do you have any specific concerns/issues with this document
that you believe the ADs and/or IESG should be aware of? For
example, perhaps you are uncomfortable with certain parts of
the document, or have concerns whether there really is a need for
it. In any event, if your issues have been discussed in the WG
and the WG has indicated it that it still wishes to advance the
document, detail those concerns in the write-up.

I am not aware of any such issues.

1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with
others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and
agree with it?

It has been fairly thoroughly discussed in the WG over a long period
of time. While there are probably many people who just don't care
about the topic, those who do seem to understand and agree with it.

1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in
separate email to the Responsible Area Director.

There have been no indications of discontent with the document or its
processing.

1.g) Have the chairs verified that the document adheres to all of
the ID nits? (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html).

Dean Willis performed a NITS review and noted no discrepancies.


1.h) Is the document split into normative and informative
references? Are there normative references to IDs, where the IDs are not
also ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear
state? (note here that the RFC editor will not publish an RFC with
normative references to IDs, it will delay publication until
all such IDs are also ready for publication as RFCs.)

References are appropriate, and the one non-final reference is both
informational and to a document currently in last call.

Technical Summary:

This document defines a framework for transcoding with SIP. This
framework includes how to discover the need of transcoding services
in a session and how to invoke those transcoding services. Two
models for transcoding services invocation are discussed: the
conference bridge model and the third party call control model.
Both models meet the requirements for SIP regarding transcoding services
invocation to support deaf, hard of hearing, and speech-impaired
individuals.
2006-02-15
05 Dinara Suleymanova Draft Added by Dinara Suleymanova in state Publication Requested
2005-11-30
03 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-03.txt
2005-06-01
02 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-02.txt
2005-02-22
01 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-01.txt
2004-02-06
00 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-sipping-transc-framework-00.txt