The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS
draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-05
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2025-06-16
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2025-06-16
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
2025-06-16
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2025-06-13
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2025-06-12
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05 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2025-06-12
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05 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to MISSREF |
2025-06-11
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from RFC-Ed-Ack |
2025-06-11
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05 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
2025-06-11
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05 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2025-06-11
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05 | Morgan Condie | IESG has approved the document |
2025-06-11
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05 | Morgan Condie | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2025-06-11
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05 | Morgan Condie | Ballot approval text was generated |
2025-06-11
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05 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2025-06-09
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05 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2025-06-09
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
2025-06-09
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05 | Yaroslav Rosomakho | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-05.txt |
2025-06-09
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05 | Yaroslav Rosomakho | New version approved |
2025-06-09
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Hannes Tschofenig , Martin Thomson , Yaroslav Rosomakho |
2025-06-09
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05 | Yaroslav Rosomakho | Uploaded new revision |
2025-06-05
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04 | (System) | Changed action holders to Hannes Tschofenig, Martin Thomson, Yaroslav Rosomakho (IESG state changed) |
2025-06-05
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04 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Revised I-D Needed from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2025-06-05
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04 | Morgan Condie | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
2025-06-04
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04 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot comment] Thanks for the work to document this widely used de facto standard. My only comments are minor, and mostly nits. In Section 2, … [Ballot comment] Thanks for the work to document this widely used de facto standard. My only comments are minor, and mostly nits. In Section 2, "Including this field allows..." sounds like an argument for including it, but it's not an optional field. Consider a more declarative phrasing, such as "This field is used to correlate..." ===NITS FOLLOW=== Abstract, "supports the logging information" => "supports logging information" or "supports the logging of information" Section 2.2, "An implementation ... use" => "An implementation ... uses" or "Implementations ... use" Section 4.2, "in depth" => "in-depth" |
2025-06-04
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04 | Mike Bishop | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Mike Bishop |
2025-06-04
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04 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
2025-06-03
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04 | Ketan Talaulikar | [Ballot comment] Thanks to the authors and the WG for this useful document. It is going to be helpful in troubleshooting. I have only one … [Ballot comment] Thanks to the authors and the WG for this useful document. It is going to be helpful in troubleshooting. I have only one comment/suggestions. In Section 2.2. - note that draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis changed "master" to "main" - perhaps it would be good if this document were to drop using that term and instead use "main" with a reference to section 1.4 of rfc8446bis? |
2025-06-03
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04 | Ketan Talaulikar | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ketan Talaulikar |
2025-06-02
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04 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot comment] While I'm normally not a fan of storing keys in log files, if the use is restricted to test systems, and there is … [Ballot comment] While I'm normally not a fan of storing keys in log files, if the use is restricted to test systems, and there is tight access control to access the files, it can provide a valuable diagnostic tool. I certainly like it MUCH better than using NULL encryption. |
2025-06-02
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04 | Deb Cooley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Deb Cooley |
2025-06-02
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04 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Russ Housley for the GENART review. |
2025-06-02
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04 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2025-06-02
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04 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] Thanks for the work done in this document. To be honest, at first sight, my eyebrows raised when reading the title of this … [Ballot comment] Thanks for the work done in this document. To be honest, at first sight, my eyebrows raised when reading the title of this document, but sections 1 and 1.1 are carefully written to address my surprise. Out of curiosity and if the TLS WG or the authors know, is there similar work for MLS ? |
2025-06-02
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04 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2025-05-23
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04 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot comment] Thanks for providing this useful specification. |
2025-05-23
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04 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gorry Fairhurst |
2025-05-19
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04 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot comment] Hi Martin, Yaroslav, and Hannes, Thanks for the effort put into this specification to document SSLKEYLOGFILE format. The document is well-written with a … [Ballot comment] Hi Martin, Yaroslav, and Hannes, Thanks for the effort put into this specification to document SSLKEYLOGFILE format. The document is well-written with a clear applicability scope. The format is useful and should be used with special care, obviously. Special thanks to S. Turner for the comprehensive write-up. Thanks to Jean-Michel Combes for the OPSDIR review (his first review of the team, btw). Although Jean-Michel indicated that the document is Ready, his review includes two aspects for which I hoped a follow-up from the authors: 1. Position this work vs the use of NULL encryption 2. Implications on operations to prevent misuses In reference to the first point, I’d like to remind that BCP 195 includes the following: Nevertheless, this document does not discourage software from implementing NULL cipher suites, since they can be useful for testing and debugging. There are cases where the use of SSLKEYLOGFILE may be superior than use of NULL encryption or fallback to non-TLS. I understand that we are not making any recommendation about the use of SSLKEYLOGFILE, but it would be helpful to call out how it is different vs. the other choices. Please find below some additional few comments: # Insist on the intended use in the abstract as well OLD: A format that supports the logging information about the secrets used in a TLS connection is described. NEW: A format that supports the logging information about the secrets used in a TLS connection is described. This format is intended for use in systems where TLS only protects test data. # Other misuse guards CURRENT: For software that is compiled, use of conditional compilation is the best way to ensure that deployed binaries cannot be configured to enable key logging. Can we mention other guards such as those mentioned in the OPSDIR review (e.g., right managements)? # Add RFC8792 to the references list as this is required to unfold the examples. Cheers, Med |
2025-05-19
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04 | Mohamed Boucadair | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Mohamed Boucadair |
2025-05-16
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04 | Erik Kline | [Ballot comment] # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-04 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Nits … [Ballot comment] # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-04 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Nits ### S1 * "format that logging" -> "format for logging"? |
2025-05-16
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04 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2025-05-08
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Telechat date has been changed to 2025-06-05 from 2024-05-16 |
2025-05-08
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04 | Paul Wouters | Ballot has been issued |
2025-05-08
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04 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
2025-05-08
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04 | Paul Wouters | Created "Approve" ballot |
2025-05-08
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04 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2025-05-08
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04 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-05-08
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04 | Paul Wouters | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as a WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? One of the controversy was how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that the text is a little too oblique. During WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ech-keylogfile, there was consensus to merge that document with this document. The -03 is the merge. For the -03 WGLC, there is an objection to progressing to merged I-D on grounds that now there is a registry that allows for expansion: "now extensible (via IANA specification required) which is a problem as that means anyone can likely define new ways to exfiltrate secrets from TLS implementations without any WG overview." So, we are in a bit of a catch 22 now. At IETF 122, the following question was posed to the WG: Do you object to moving forward with the publication of the SSLKEYLOG draft? The results were as follows: yes: 4 no: 21 Also note, there were some process glitches: pushed pubreq before the minutes got up, didn't close out the WGLC. That's been done and I provided a summary of the issues: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/GXE38LHQVJk219HPq5goi_HO81M/ The AD also added another to weeks to the IETF LC and sent a reminder out to give the WG more time after the additional WGLC confirmation on the list. No new people stepped forward with objections. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There was no threat of appeal before the merge. The people who do not want this I-D to progress might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but (in the past) they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as it was. Now, it is not so clear. There will no doubt be continued objection to progressing this I-D because it now includes a IANA registry. And, that is it Specification Required. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The authors have acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. There is one duplicate reference and I submitted a PR (now merged): https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/24 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. "SSLKEYLOGFILE Labels Registry" is a new registry. It points to RFC 8447(bis) for the DE instructions. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2025-05-07
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04 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2025-05-06
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04 | Jean-Michel Combes | Request for IETF Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Jean-Michel Combes. Sent review to list. |
2025-04-18
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04 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-04. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-04. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there are two actions which we must complete. First, in the application namespace of the Media Types registry located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/ a single new registration will be made as follows: Name: sslkeylogfile Template: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Second, a new registry is to be created called the SSLKEYLOGFILE Labels registry. The new registry will be added to the Transport Layer Security (TLS) Parameters registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/ The new registry will be managed via Specification Required as defined by [RFC8126]. There are initial registrations in the new registry as follows: Value Description Reference -----+-----------+----------- CLIENT_RANDOM Master secret in TLS 1.2 and earlier [ RFC-to-be ] CLIENT_EARLY_TRAFFIC_SECRET Secret for client early data records [ RFC-to-be ] EARLY_EXPORTER_SECRET Early exporters secret [ RFC-to-be ] CLIENT_HANDSHAKE_TRAFFIC_SECRET Secret protecting client handshake [ RFC-to-be ] SERVER_HANDSHAKE_TRAFFIC_SECRET Secret protecting server handshake [ RFC-to-be ] CLIENT_TRAFFIC_SECRET_0 Secret protecting client records post handshake [ RFC-to-be ] SERVER_TRAFFIC_SECRET_0 Secret protecting server records post handshake [ RFC-to-be ] EXPORTER_SECRET Exporter secret after handshake [ RFC-to-be ] ECH_SECRET HPKE KEM shared secret used in the ECH [ RFC-to-be ] ECH_CONFIG ECHConfig used for construction of the ECH [ RFC-to-be ] We understand that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2025-04-18
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04 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2025-04-17
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04 | Bo Wu | Request for IETF Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jean-Michel Combes |
2025-04-16
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04 | Mohamed Boucadair | Requested IETF Last Call review by OPSDIR |
2025-04-15
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04 | Cindy Morgan | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-05-07): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-05-07): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Extended Last Call: (The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-05-07. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract A format that supports the logging information about the secrets used in a TLS connection is described. Recording secrets to a file in SSLKEYLOGFILE format allows diagnostic and logging tools that use this file to decrypt messages exchanged by TLS endpoints. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2025-04-15
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04 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2025-04-15
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Last call was requested |
2025-04-15
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04 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from In Last Call |
2025-04-15
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Last call announcement was changed |
2025-04-15
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04 | Cindy Morgan | Last call announcement was generated |
2025-04-11
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04 | Martin Thomson | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-04.txt |
2025-04-11
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04 | Martin Thomson | New version approved |
2025-04-11
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Hannes Tschofenig , Martin Thomson , Yaroslav Rosomakho |
2025-04-11
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04 | Martin Thomson | Uploaded new revision |
2025-04-11
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03 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as a WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? One of the controversy was how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that the text is a little too oblique. During WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ech-keylogfile, there was consensus to merge that document with this document. The -03 is the merge. For the -03 WGLC, there is an objection to progressing to merged I-D on grounds that now there is a registry that allows for expansion: "now extensible (via IANA specification required) which is a problem as that means anyone can likely define new ways to exfiltrate secrets from TLS implementations without any WG overview." So, we are in a bit of a catch 22 now. At IETF 122, the following question was posed to the WG: Do you object to moving forward with the publication of the SSLKEYLOG draft? The results were as follows: yes: 4 no: 21 Also note, there were some process glitches: pushed pubreq before the minutes got up, didn't close out the WGLC. That's been done and I provided a summary of the issues: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/GXE38LHQVJk219HPq5goi_HO81M/ 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There was no threat of appeal before the merge. The people who do not want this I-D to progress might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but (in the past) they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as it was. Now, it is not so clear. There will no doubt be continued objection to progressing this I-D because it now includes a IANA registry. And, that is it Specification Required. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The authors have acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. There is one duplicate reference and I submitted a PR (now merged): https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/24 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. "SSLKEYLOGFILE Labels Registry" is a new registry. It points to RFC 8447(bis) for the DE instructions. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2025-04-09
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03 | Cindy Morgan | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-04-23): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-04-23): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-04-23. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract A format that supports the logging information about the secrets used in a TLS connection is described. Recording secrets to a file in SSLKEYLOGFILE format allows diagnostic and logging tools that use this file to decrypt messages exchanged by TLS endpoints. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2025-04-09
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03 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2025-04-09
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03 | Paul Wouters | Last call was requested |
2025-04-09
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03 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested |
2025-04-09
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03 | Paul Wouters | Last call announcement was generated |
2025-04-03
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03 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as a WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? One of the controversy was how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that the text is a little too oblique. During WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ech-keylogfile, there was consensus to merge that document with this document. The -03 is the merge. For the -03 WGLC, there is an objection to progressing to merged I-D on grounds that now there is a registry that allows for expansion: "now extensible (via IANA specification required) which is a problem as that means anyone can likely define new ways to exfiltrate secrets from TLS implementations without any WG overview." So, we are in a bit of a catch 22 now. At IETF 122, the following question was posed to the WG: Do you object to moving forward with the publication of the SSLKEYLOG draft? The results were as follows: yes: 4 no: 21 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There was no threat of appeal before the merge. The people who do not want this I-D to progress might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but (in the past) they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as it was. Now, it is not so clear. There will no doubt be continued objection to progressing this I-D because it now includes a IANA registry. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The authors have acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. There is one duplicate reference and I submitted a PR (now merged): https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/24 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. "SSLKEYLOGFILE Labels Registry" is a new registry. It points to RFC 8447(bis) for the DE instructions. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2025-04-03
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03 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2025-04-03
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03 | Sean Turner | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2025-04-03
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03 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2025-04-03
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03 | Sean Turner | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
2025-04-03
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03 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2025-04-02
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03 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as a WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? One of the controversy was how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that the text is a little too oblique. During WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ech-keylogfile, there was consensus to merge that document with this document. The -03 is the merge. For the -03 WGLC, there is an objection to progressing to merged I-D on grounds that now there is a registry that allows for expansion: "now extensible (via IANA specification required) which is a problem as that means anyone can likely define new ways to exfiltrate secrets from TLS implementations without any WG overview." So, we are in a bit of a catch 22 now. At IETF 122, the following question was posed to the WG: Do you object to moving forward with the publication of the SSLKEYLOG draft? The results were as follows: yes: 4 no: 21 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There was no threat of appeal before the merge. The people who do not want this I-D to progress might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but (in the past) they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as it was. Now, it is not so clear. There will no doubt be continued objection to progressing this I-D because it now includes a IANA registry. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The authors have acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. There is one duplicate reference and I submitted a PR (now merged): https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/24 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. "SSLKEYLOGFILE Labels Registry" is a new registry. It points to RFC 8447(bis) for the DE instructions. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2025-03-17
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03 | Sean Turner | Added to session: IETF-122: tls Thu-0230 |
2025-02-19
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03 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was broad agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as a WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? The biggest point of controversy, if you want to call it that, is how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that maybe the text is a little too oblique. During WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ech-keylogfile, there was consensus to merge that document with this document. Now, there is an objector to that merge on grounds that now there is a registry "now extensible (via IANA specification required) which is a problem as that means anyone can likely define new ways to exfiltrate secrets from TLS implementations without any WG overview." 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There was no threat of appeal before the merge. The aforementioned person might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as it was. Now, it is not so clear. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The authors have acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. There is one duplicate reference and I submitted a PR: https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/24 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. "SSLKEYLOGFILE Labels Registry" is a new registry. It points to RFC 8447 for the DE instructions. [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2025-02-07
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03 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2025-02-07
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03 | Sean Turner | This document now replaces draft-thomson-tls-keylogfile, draft-ietf-tls-ech-keylogfile instead of draft-thomson-tls-keylogfile |
2025-02-04
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03 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2025-02-04
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03 | Martin Thomson | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-03.txt |
2025-02-04
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03 | Martin Thomson | New version approved |
2025-02-04
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Martin Thomson , tls-chairs@ietf.org |
2025-02-04
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03 | Martin Thomson | Uploaded new revision |
2024-12-18
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02 | (System) | IESG state changed to I-D Exists from Dead |
2024-12-18
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02 | (System) | IESG Dead state was set due only to document expiry - changing IESG state to ID-Exists |
2024-12-07
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02 | (System) | Document has expired |
2024-12-07
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02 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
2024-12-07
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02 | (System) | IESG state changed to Dead from I-D Exists |
2024-12-06
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02 | Paul Wouters | pulled back to the WG for changes related to ECH |
2024-12-06
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02 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2024-12-06
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02 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to I-D Exists from RFC Ed Queue |
2024-12-06
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02 | Paul Wouters | as per request of the WG |
2024-12-06
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02 | Paul Wouters | IETF WG state changed to WG Document from Submitted to IESG for Publication |
2024-08-09
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02 | Tero Kivinen | Closed request for Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events' |
2024-08-09
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02 | Tero Kivinen | Assignment of request for Last Call review by SECDIR to Hannes Tschofenig was marked no-response |
2024-08-02
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02 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to MISSREF |
2024-08-02
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02 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2024-08-02
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02 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2024-07-30
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2024-07-30
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from In Progress |
2024-07-30
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2024-07-29
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2024-07-25
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02 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2024-07-25
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02 | (System) | Removed all action holders (IESG state changed) |
2024-07-25
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02 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2024-07-25
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02 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2024-07-25
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02 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2024-07-25
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02 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2024-07-25
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02 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup |
2024-07-15
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02 | Carlos Pignataro | Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'Overtaken by Events' |
2024-07-15
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02 | Carlos Pignataro | Assignment of request for Last Call review by OPSDIR to Niclas Comstedt was withdrawn |
2024-07-13
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02 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Niclas Comstedt |
2024-06-19
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02 | Barry Leiba | Closed request for Last Call review by ARTART with state 'Overtaken by Events': Document has finished IESG processing |
2024-06-19
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02 | Barry Leiba | Assignment of request for Last Call review by ARTART to Matthew Miller was marked no-response |
2024-05-16
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02 | Jenny Bui | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
2024-05-15
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02 | John Scudder | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for John Scudder |
2024-05-15
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02 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Warren Kumari |
2024-05-15
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02 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot comment] This document will be helpful, thanks for working on this document. |
2024-05-15
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02 | Zaheduzzaman Sarker | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker |
2024-05-14
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02 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot comment] Nice work. Section 3 seemed particularly thorough. |
2024-05-14
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02 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
2024-05-12
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02 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you to Russ Housley for the GENART review. |
2024-05-12
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02 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2024-05-10
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02 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2024-05-08
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02 | Gunter Van de Velde | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gunter Van de Velde |
2024-05-06
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02 | Jim Guichard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jim Guichard |
2024-05-03
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02 | Erik Kline | [Ballot comment] # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-02 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Nits … [Ballot comment] # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-02 CC @ekline * comment syntax: - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md * "Handling Ballot Positions": - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ## Nits ### S1 * "file format that logging the secret values" -> "file format for logging the secret values", I suspect |
2024-05-03
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02 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2024-04-30
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02 | Cindy Morgan | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2024-05-16 |
2024-04-30
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02 | Paul Wouters | Ballot has been issued |
2024-04-30
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02 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
2024-04-30
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02 | Paul Wouters | Created "Approve" ballot |
2024-04-30
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02 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::AD Followup |
2024-04-30
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02 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was changed |
2024-04-29
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02 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2024-04-29
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02 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
2024-04-29
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02 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2024-04-29
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02 | Martin Thomson | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-02.txt |
2024-04-29
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2024-04-29
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Martin Thomson |
2024-04-29
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02 | Martin Thomson | Uploaded new revision |
2024-04-21
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01 | Paul Wouters | Waiting on Martin to push an update containing https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/11 |
2024-04-21
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01 | (System) | Changed action holders to Martin Thomson (IESG state changed) |
2024-04-21
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01 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2024-04-18
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01 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2024-04-16
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01 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2024-04-16
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01 | David Dong | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-01. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-01. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. in the application namespace of the Media Types registry located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/ a single new media type will be registered as follows: Name: sslkeylogfile Template: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2024-04-12
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01 | Russ Housley | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Russ Housley. Sent review to list. |
2024-04-12
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01 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Russ Housley |
2024-04-08
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01 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Shwetha Bhandari |
2024-04-05
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01 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Hannes Tschofenig |
2024-04-05
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01 | Barry Leiba | Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Matthew Miller |
2024-04-04
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01 | Jenny Bui | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2024-04-04
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01 | Jenny Bui | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-04-18): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-04-18): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2024-04-18. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract A format that supports the logging information about the secrets used in a TLS connection is described. Recording secrets to a file in SSLKEYLOGFILE format allows diagnostic and logging tools that use this file to decrypt messages exchanged by TLS endpoints. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2024-04-04
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01 | Jenny Bui | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2024-04-04
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01 | Paul Wouters | Last call was requested |
2024-04-04
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01 | Paul Wouters | Ballot approval text was generated |
2024-04-04
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01 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was generated |
2024-04-04
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01 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested |
2024-04-04
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01 | Paul Wouters | Last call announcement was generated |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was broad agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? The biggest point of controversy, if you want to call it that, is how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that maybe the text is a little too oblique. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There has been no threat of appeal. The aforementioned person might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as is. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The author has acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. N/A [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2024-04-03
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01 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | Responsible AD changed to Paul Wouters |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | Intended Status changed to Informational from None |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? There was broad agreement to publish the I-D as an RFC. At first, there was some consternation that the TLS WG would even consider publishing this as an I-D, but this file format is the defacto standard, e.g., it is supported by Firefox, Chrome, Wireshark, openssl, libcurl, etc. Also, we know SSL is dead. We as WG killed it. Please do not ask us to rename sslkeylogfile to tlskeylogfile ;) There is some text in the I-D about why the name is what it is. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? The biggest point of controversy, if you want to call it that, is how big of a warning to put in the I-D that there be big, crazy, scary, and dangerous dragons if you expose the key in the file. Since the I-D was adopted by the WG, an applicability statement was added explaining that this file is for test systems. The security considerations also highlight the dragon(s), but at least one vocal person thinks that maybe the text is a little too oblique. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There has been no threat of appeal. The aforementioned person might continue to suggest less oblique language for the security considerations, but they have stated that they are not objecting to the I-D proceeding as is. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? Loads of implementations; see Q1. ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. No. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? Yes this I-D is well baked. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? ART -> Media Types: Looks good to me (also Martin is not new to ART) INT N/A OPS N/A RTG N/A SEC -> Always worth another set of eyes! TSV N/A 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? The Informational track was chosen as this I-D isn’t really about the TLS protocol. Martin noted during discussions at IETF 105 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-115-tls-202211100930/) that standards track is a possibility as the file format is exchanged and it would help a test system “work”. Nobody in the WG really seems to care much whether Informational or Standards track is appropriate. However, if the IESG would prefer to see this on the Standards track, that might sharpen concerns about the degree to which the IETF is endorsing this practice and cause the presently mild objections to be more forcefully presented. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed the author has made all the necessary disclosures. As noted in the Acknowledgements Section, this format originated in the NSS project. The author has provided explicit change control the IETF; see [18]. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The author has acknowledged their willingness to be listed as the author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) The two obsolete references are intentional. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. No. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. N/A 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? We are creating a cluster behind draft-ietf-tls-rfc8446bis, but work on that I-D is nearing completion. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. No. 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The IANA Considerations section contains a media type registration. It uses the template provided in RFC 6838 s5.6. As this I-D will be coming through the IETF stream, the registration is reviewed and approved by the IESG (and thanks for that). 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. N/A [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ [18]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/lFYr128JIamDh1NBYbphHH8Mw8Q/ |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC cleared. |
2024-04-03
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01 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from Waiting for WG Chair Go-Ahead |
2024-04-02
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01 | Martin Thomson | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-01.txt |
2024-04-02
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01 | Martin Thomson | New version approved |
2024-04-02
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Martin Thomson |
2024-04-02
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01 | Martin Thomson | Uploaded new revision |
2024-04-02
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00 | Sean Turner | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC set. |
2024-04-02
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00 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to Waiting for WG Chair Go-Ahead from In WG Last Call |
2024-03-12
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00 | Sean Turner | Notification list changed to sean@sn3rd.com because the document shepherd was set |
2024-03-12
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00 | Sean Turner | Document shepherd changed to Sean Turner |
2024-03-12
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00 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2024-01-25
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00 | Sean Turner | This document now replaces draft-thomson-tls-keylogfile instead of None |
2024-01-24
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00 | Martin Thomson | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-00.txt |
2024-01-24
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00 | Martin Thomson | New version approved |
2024-01-24
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00 | Martin Thomson | Request for posting confirmation emailed to submitter and authors: Martin Thomson |
2024-01-24
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00 | Martin Thomson | Uploaded new revision |