Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings
draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07
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2025-04-24
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07 | Gorry Fairhurst | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gorry Fairhurst |
2025-04-22
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07 | Andy Newton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Andy Newton |
2025-04-22
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07 | Magnus Westerlund | Request for Telechat review by TSVART is assigned to Vidhi Goel |
2025-04-22
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07 | Gorry Fairhurst | Requested Telechat review by TSVART |
2025-04-09
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07 | Linda Dunbar | Request for IETF Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Not Ready. Reviewer: Linda Dunbar. Sent review to list. |
2025-03-31
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07 | Cindy Morgan | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2025-05-08 |
2025-03-28
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07 | Paul Wouters | Ballot has been issued |
2025-03-28
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07 | Paul Wouters | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Paul Wouters |
2025-03-28
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07 | Paul Wouters | Created "Approve" ballot |
2025-03-28
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07 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2025-03-28
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07 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was changed |
2025-03-17
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07 | Sean Turner | Added to session: IETF-122: tls Thu-0230 |
2025-03-13
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07 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2025-03-12
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07 | Carlos Pignataro | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Linda Dunbar |
2025-03-12
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07 | Mohamed Boucadair | Requested Last Call review by OPSDIR |
2025-03-04
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07 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the Service Parameter Keys (SvcParamKeys) registry in the DNS Service Bindings (SVCB) registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-svcb/ the existing registration: Number: 5 Name: ech Meaning: RESERVED (held for Encrypted ClientHello) Change Controller: IETF will be changed to: Number: 5 Name: ech Meaning: TLS Encrypted ClientHello Config Change Controller: IETF and its reference will be changed to [ RFC-to-be ]. We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2025-03-04
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07 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2025-02-26
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07 | Matt Brown | Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Matt Brown. Sent review to list. |
2025-02-20
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07 | Geoff Huston | Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR is assigned to Matt Brown |
2025-02-20
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07 | Cindy Morgan | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-03-13): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-03-13): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-03-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract To use TLS Encrypted ClientHello (ECH) the client needs to learn the ECH configuration for a server before it attempts a connection to the server. This specification provides a mechanism for conveying the ECH configuration information via DNS, using a SVCB or HTTPS record. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2025-02-20
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07 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2025-02-20
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07 | Paul Wouters | Last call was requested |
2025-02-20
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07 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2025-02-20
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07 | Paul Wouters | Last call announcement was changed |
2025-02-20
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07 | Paul Wouters | Last call announcement was generated |
2025-02-12
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07 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2025-02-12
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07 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07.txt |
2025-02-12
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07 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version approved |
2025-02-12
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2025-02-12
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07 | Benjamin Schwartz | Uploaded new revision |
2024-11-23
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06 | James Gannon | Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: James Gannon. Sent review to list. |
2024-11-22
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06 | Jim Reid | Assignment of request for Last Call review by DNSDIR to Johan Stenstam was withdrawn |
2024-11-22
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06 | Jim Reid | Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR is assigned to James Gannon |
2024-11-15
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06 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2024-11-14
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06 | David Dong | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-06. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-06. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the Service Parameter Keys (SvcParamKeys) registry in the DNS Service Bindings (SVCB) registry group located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-svcb/ The existing registration for Number: 5; Name: ech will be modified to be the following: Number: 5 Name: ech Meaning: TLS Encrypted ClientHello Config Change Controller: IETF Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed. For definitions of IANA review states, please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review Thank you, David Dong IANA Services Sr. Specialist |
2024-11-14
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2024-10-29
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06 | Geoff Huston | Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR is assigned to Johan Stenstam |
2024-10-27
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06 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Tirumaleswar Reddy.K |
2024-10-26
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06 | Lucas Pardue | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Lucas Pardue. Sent review to list. |
2024-10-24
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06 | David Dong | The Service Parameter Keys (SvcParamKeys) registration update has been approved. |
2024-10-24
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06 | David Dong | IANA Experts State changed to Expert Reviews OK from Reviews assigned |
2024-10-23
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06 | David Dong | IANA Experts State changed to Reviews assigned |
2024-10-23
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06 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Lucas Pardue |
2024-10-23
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06 | Barry Leiba | Request for Last Call review by ARTART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Barry Leiba. Sent review to list. |
2024-10-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Barry Leiba |
2024-10-22
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06 | Liz Flynn | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2024-10-22
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06 | Liz Flynn | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-11-15): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-11-15): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2024-11-15. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract To use TLS Encrypted ClientHello (ECH) the client needs to learn the ECH configuration for a server before it attempts a connection to the server. This specification provides a mechanism for conveying the ECH configuration information via DNS, using a SVCB or HTTPS record. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2024-10-22
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06 | Liz Flynn | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2024-10-22
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06 | Paul Wouters | Last call was requested |
2024-10-22
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06 | Paul Wouters | Ballot approval text was generated |
2024-10-22
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06 | Paul Wouters | Ballot writeup was generated |
2024-10-22
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06 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2024-10-22
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06 | Paul Wouters | Last call announcement was changed |
2024-10-21
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06 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2024-10-21
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06 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed |
2024-10-21
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06 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-06.txt |
2024-10-21
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2024-10-21
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2024-10-21
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06 | Benjamin Schwartz | Uploaded new revision |
2024-10-02
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05 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters, Erik Nygren, Mike Bishop, Benjamin Schwartz (IESG state changed) |
2024-10-02
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05 | Paul Wouters | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from Publication Requested |
2024-09-23
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05 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This I-D represents the consensus on the WG. Please note that the text in this I-D was initially developed in the DNSOP WG, went through IETF LC, and IESG review. The result of the IESG review was to take the text in this I-D out of RFC 9460 (was draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http) and run the new I-D through the TLS WG. The text in this I-D is essentially the same text taken from -11 of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http. In some respects, you could claim that this I-D has consensus from multiple WGs. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There are two things that might be considered controversial and I am stretching here: How this I-D arrived at TLS. Ben provided a good explanation here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Vct8iUc4IgSHENX2r9IGOQFLkyk/ ECH itself, but that seems to have subside. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There have been no threats of appeal. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This specification is implemented today by Chrome, Firefox, and Safari [1], and is deployed on all Cloudflare free tier domains [2]. [1] https://chromestatus.com/feature/6196703843581952 [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-encrypted-client-hello ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. As noted earlier, this I-D is about DNS service records and I’d argue there is not a lot of expertise in the TLS WG on DNS, but the authors are experts. We also made sure to get an early review from the DNSDIR; see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01-dnsdir-early-lemon-2024-03-29/. The DNSDIR comments were discussed and resolved; see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/VQcqUuOXSE8sgcp4_CHa6Jlc394/. Again, the text of this I-D is largely unchanged from what went through IETF LC and IESG review as draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http before being separated from what became RFC 9460. It was thoroughly reviewed at that point, and modifications since then have been minimal. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. Note that the underlying protocol (ECH) has undergone security analysis as documented in https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/vincent.cheval/publis/BCW-ccs22.pdf. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? The Shepherd believes that this document is ready to go. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Note that text in this I-D has already been through IETF LC. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track is requested. While the registry does not require Standards Track, Standards Track is appropriate for this I-D because: It was ripped from a Standards Track RFC, i.e., it would have been in RFC 9460 except for timing. There is sufficient interest from implementers in supporting ECH with SVCB. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all required disclosures have been filed. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all are willing to be an author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) -04 had some nits, but -05 addresses them. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. There are not many references and they seem to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. This I-D includes a reference to draft-ietf-tls-esni, but this I-D will progress with that I-D so the references will be resolved as part of the cluster the RFC editor will create. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? See q17. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. N/A 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The authors of this I-D created the registry that this I-D registers values in so there is little chance we got this wrong. The Shepherd double checked that the 5 columns needed for the registry are included and appropriate for this registration. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. N/A [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-09-23
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05 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2024-09-23
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05 | Sean Turner | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2024-09-23
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05 | (System) | Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed) |
2024-09-23
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05 | Sean Turner | Responsible AD changed to Paul Wouters |
2024-09-23
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05 | Sean Turner | Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested |
2024-09-23
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05 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This I-D represents the consensus on the WG. Please note that the text in this I-D was initially developed in the DNSOP WG, went through IETF LC, and IESG review. The result of the IESG review was to take the text in this I-D out of RFC 9460 (was draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http) and run the new I-D through the TLS WG. The text in this I-D is essentially the same text taken from -11 of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http. In some respects, you could claim that this I-D has consensus from multiple WGs. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There are two things that might be considered controversial and I am stretching here: How this I-D arrived at TLS. Ben provided a good explanation here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Vct8iUc4IgSHENX2r9IGOQFLkyk/ ECH itself, but that seems to have subside. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There have been no threats of appeal. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This specification is implemented today by Chrome, Firefox, and Safari [1], and is deployed on all Cloudflare free tier domains [2]. [1] https://chromestatus.com/feature/6196703843581952 [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-encrypted-client-hello ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. As noted earlier, this I-D is about DNS service records and I’d argue there is not a lot of expertise in the TLS WG on DNS, but the authors are experts. We also made sure to get an early review from the DNSDIR; see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01-dnsdir-early-lemon-2024-03-29/. The DNSDIR comments were discussed and resolved; see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/VQcqUuOXSE8sgcp4_CHa6Jlc394/. Again, the text of this I-D is largely unchanged from what went through IETF LC and IESG review as draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http before being separated from what became RFC 9460. It was thoroughly reviewed at that point, and modifications since then have been minimal. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. Note that the underlying protocol (ECH) has undergone security analysis as documented in https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/vincent.cheval/publis/BCW-ccs22.pdf. 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? The Shepherd believes that this document is ready to go. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Note that text in this I-D has already been through IETF LC. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track is requested. While the registry does not require Standards Track, Standards Track is appropriate for this I-D because: It was ripped from a Standards Track RFC, i.e., it would have been in RFC 9460 except for timing. There is sufficient interest from implementers in supporting ECH with SVCB. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all required disclosures have been filed. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all are willing to be an author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) -04 had some nits, but -05 addresses them. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. There are not many references and they seem to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. This I-D includes a reference to draft-ietf-tls-esni, but this I-D will progress with that I-D so the references will be resolved as part of the cluster the RFC editor will create. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? See q17. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. N/A 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The authors of this I-D created the registry that this I-D registers values in so there is little chance we got this wrong. The Shepherd double checked that the 5 columns needed for the registry are included and appropriate for this registration. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. N/A [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-09-10
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05 | Sean Turner | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2024-09-10
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05 | Sean Turner | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2024-09-10
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05 | Sean Turner | # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the … # Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents *This version is dated 4 July 2022.* Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors and editors to complete these checks. Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure to answer all of them. ## Document History 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? This I-D represents the consensus on the WG. Please note that the text in this I-D was initially developed in the DNSOP WG, went through IETF LC, and IESG review. The result of the IESG review was to take the text in this I-D out of RFC 9460 (was draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http) and run the new I-D through the TLS WG. The text in this I-D is essentially the same text taken from -11 of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http. In some respects, you could claim that this I-D has consensus from multiple WGs. 2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? There are two things that might be considered controversial and I am stretching here: How this I-D arrived at TLS. Ben provided a good explanation here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Vct8iUc4IgSHENX2r9IGOQFLkyk/ ECH itself, but that seems to have subside. 3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) There have been no threats of appeal. 4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere, either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere (where)? This specification is implemented today by Chrome, Firefox, and Safari [1], and is deployed on all Cloudflare free tier domains [2]. [1] https://chromestatus.com/feature/6196703843581952 [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-encrypted-client-hello ## Additional Reviews 5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which reviews took place. As noted earlier, this I-D is about DNS service records and I’d argue there is not a lot of expertise in the TLS WG on DNS, but the authors are experts. We also made sure to get an early review from the DNSDIR; see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01-dnsdir-early-lemon-2024-03-29/. The DNSDIR comments were discussed and resolved; see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/VQcqUuOXSE8sgcp4_CHa6Jlc394/. Again, the text of this I-D is largely unchanged from what went through IETF LC and IESG review as draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http before being separated from what became RFC 9460. It was thoroughly reviewed at that point, and modifications since then have been minimal. 6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A 7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified in [RFC 8342][5]? N/A 8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc. N/A ## Document Shepherd Checks 9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready to be handed off to the responsible Area Director? The Shepherd believes that this document is ready to go. 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent reviews? Note that text in this I-D has already been through IETF LC. 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent? Standards Track is requested. While the registry does not require Standards Track, Standards Track is appropriate for this I-D because: It was ripped from a Standards Track RFC, i.e., it would have been in RFC 9460 except for timing. There is sufficient interest from implementers in supporting ECH with SVCB. 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages when applicable. The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all required disclosures have been filed. 13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page is greater than five, please provide a justification. The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all are willing to be an author. 14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.) -04 had some nits, but -05 addresses them. 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG Statement on Normative and Informative References][16]. There are not many references and they seem to be categorized correctly. 16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did the community have sufficient access to review any such normative references? N/A 17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP 97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so, list them. This I-D includes a reference to draft-ietf-tls-esni, but this I-D will progress with that I-D so the references will be resolved as part of the cluster the RFC editor will create. 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state? If so, what is the plan for their completion? See q17. 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed. N/A 20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents, allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]). The authors of this I-D created the registry that this I-D registers values in so there is little chance we got this wrong. The Shepherd double checked that the 5 columns needed for the registry are included and appropriate for this registration. 21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear? Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate. N/A [1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/ [2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html [3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html [4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools [5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics [7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79 [8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ [9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html [10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97 [11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html [12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5 [13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1 [14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2 [15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview [16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ [17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/ |
2024-09-10
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05 | Sean Turner | Notification list changed to sean@sn3rd.com because the document shepherd was set |
2024-09-10
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05 | Sean Turner | Document shepherd changed to Sean Turner |
2024-09-03
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05 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-05.txt |
2024-09-03
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05 | Erik Nygren | New version approved |
2024-09-03
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2024-09-03
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05 | Benjamin Schwartz | Uploaded new revision |
2024-08-20
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04 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2024-08-20
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04 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-04.txt |
2024-08-20
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04 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version approved |
2024-08-20
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2024-08-20
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04 | Benjamin Schwartz | Uploaded new revision |
2024-07-23
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03 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-03.txt |
2024-07-23
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03 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version approved |
2024-07-23
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2024-07-23
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03 | Benjamin Schwartz | Uploaded new revision |
2024-06-12
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02 | Sean Turner | The -02 version addresses DNSDIR review comments. As there are no none open issues (no issues/PRs in the Github repo nor issues on the list), … The -02 version addresses DNSDIR review comments. As there are no none open issues (no issues/PRs in the Github repo nor issues on the list), it's time to issue a WGLC. |
2024-06-12
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02 | Sean Turner | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2024-05-23
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02 | Erik Nygren | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-02.txt |
2024-05-23
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2024-05-23
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2024-05-23
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02 | Erik Nygren | Uploaded new revision |
2024-03-29
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01 | Mark Nottingham | Closed request for Early review by HTTPDIR with state 'Team Will not Review Document' |
2024-03-29
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01 | Ted Lemon | Request for Early review by DNSDIR Completed: Almost Ready. Reviewer: Ted Lemon. Sent review to list. |
2024-03-29
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01 | Geoff Huston | Request for Early review by DNSDIR is assigned to Ted Lemon |
2024-03-29
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01 | Sean Turner | Requested Early review by HTTPDIR |
2024-03-29
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01 | Sean Turner | Requested Early review by DNSDIR |
2024-03-27
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01 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01.txt |
2024-03-27
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01 | Benjamin Schwartz | New version approved |
2024-03-27
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop |
2024-03-27
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01 | Benjamin Schwartz | Uploaded new revision |
2023-09-26
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00 | Erik Nygren | This document now replaces draft-sbn-tls-svcb-ech instead of None |
2023-09-26
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00 | Erik Nygren | New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-00.txt |
2023-09-26
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00 | Erik Nygren | New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Erik Nygren) |
2023-09-26
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00 | Erik Nygren | Uploaded new revision |