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Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings
draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07

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2025-04-24
07 Gorry Fairhurst [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gorry Fairhurst
2025-04-22
07 Andy Newton [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Andy Newton
2025-04-22
07 Magnus Westerlund Request for Telechat review by TSVART is assigned to Vidhi Goel
2025-04-22
07 Gorry Fairhurst Requested Telechat review by TSVART
2025-04-09
07 Linda Dunbar Request for IETF Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Not Ready. Reviewer: Linda Dunbar. Sent review to list.
2025-03-31
07 Cindy Morgan Placed on agenda for telechat - 2025-05-08
2025-03-28
07 Paul Wouters Ballot has been issued
2025-03-28
07 Paul Wouters [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Paul Wouters
2025-03-28
07 Paul Wouters Created "Approve" ballot
2025-03-28
07 Paul Wouters IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
2025-03-28
07 Paul Wouters Ballot writeup was changed
2025-03-17
07 Sean Turner Added to session: IETF-122: tls  Thu-0230
2025-03-13
07 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call
2025-03-12
07 Carlos Pignataro Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Linda Dunbar
2025-03-12
07 Mohamed Boucadair Requested Last Call review by OPSDIR
2025-03-04
07 David Dong
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know.

IANA understands that, upon …
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know.

IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete.

In the Service Parameter Keys (SvcParamKeys) registry in the DNS Service Bindings (SVCB) registry group located at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-svcb/

the existing registration:

Number: 5
Name: ech
Meaning: RESERVED (held for Encrypted ClientHello)
Change Controller: IETF

will be changed to:

Number: 5
Name: ech
Meaning: TLS Encrypted ClientHello Config
Change Controller: IETF

and its reference will be changed to [ RFC-to-be ].

We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document.

NOTE: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed.

For definitions of IANA review states, please see:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review

Thank you,

David Dong
IANA Services Sr. Specialist
2025-03-04
07 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed
2025-02-26
07 Matt Brown Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Matt Brown. Sent review to list.
2025-02-20
07 Geoff Huston Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR is assigned to Matt Brown
2025-02-20
07 Cindy Morgan
The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-03-13):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2025-03-13):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org
Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to
consider the following document: - 'Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello
with DNS Service Bindings'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2025-03-13. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  To use TLS Encrypted ClientHello (ECH) the client needs to learn the
  ECH configuration for a server before it attempts a connection to the
  server.  This specification provides a mechanism for conveying the
  ECH configuration information via DNS, using a SVCB or HTTPS record.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech/



No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.




2025-02-20
07 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2025-02-20
07 Paul Wouters Last call was requested
2025-02-20
07 Paul Wouters IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
2025-02-20
07 Paul Wouters Last call announcement was changed
2025-02-20
07 Paul Wouters Last call announcement was generated
2025-02-12
07 (System) IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed
2025-02-12
07 Benjamin Schwartz New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-07.txt
2025-02-12
07 Benjamin Schwartz New version approved
2025-02-12
07 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2025-02-12
07 Benjamin Schwartz Uploaded new revision
2024-11-23
06 James Gannon Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: James Gannon. Sent review to list.
2024-11-22
06 Jim Reid Assignment of request for Last Call review by DNSDIR to Johan Stenstam was withdrawn
2024-11-22
06 Jim Reid Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR is assigned to James Gannon
2024-11-15
06 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call
2024-11-14
06 David Dong
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-06. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know.

IANA understands that, upon …
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-06. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know.

IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete.

In the Service Parameter Keys (SvcParamKeys) registry in the DNS Service Bindings (SVCB) registry group located at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-svcb/

The existing registration for Number: 5; Name: ech will be modified to be the following:

Number: 5
Name: ech
Meaning: TLS Encrypted ClientHello Config
Change Controller: IETF
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

We understand that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document.

NOTE: The action requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the action that will be performed.

For definitions of IANA review states, please see:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/help/state/draft/iana-review

Thank you,

David Dong
IANA Services Sr. Specialist
2024-11-14
06 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed
2024-10-29
06 Geoff Huston Request for Last Call review by DNSDIR is assigned to Johan Stenstam
2024-10-27
06 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Tirumaleswar Reddy.K
2024-10-26
06 Lucas Pardue Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Lucas Pardue. Sent review to list.
2024-10-24
06 David Dong The Service Parameter Keys (SvcParamKeys) registration update has been approved.
2024-10-24
06 David Dong IANA Experts State changed to Expert Reviews OK from Reviews assigned
2024-10-23
06 David Dong IANA Experts State changed to Reviews assigned
2024-10-23
06 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Lucas Pardue
2024-10-23
06 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Barry Leiba. Sent review to list.
2024-10-22
06 Barry Leiba Request for Last Call review by ARTART is assigned to Barry Leiba
2024-10-22
06 Liz Flynn IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2024-10-22
06 Liz Flynn
The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-11-15):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2024-11-15):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
CC: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech@ietf.org, paul.wouters@aiven.io, sean@sn3rd.com, tls-chairs@ietf.org, tls@ietf.org
Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to
consider the following document: - 'Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello
with DNS Service Bindings'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2024-11-15. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  To use TLS Encrypted ClientHello (ECH) the client needs to learn the
  ECH configuration for a server before it attempts a connection to the
  server.  This specification provides a mechanism for conveying the
  ECH configuration information via DNS, using a SVCB or HTTPS record.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech/



No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.




2024-10-22
06 Liz Flynn IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2024-10-22
06 Paul Wouters Last call was requested
2024-10-22
06 Paul Wouters Ballot approval text was generated
2024-10-22
06 Paul Wouters Ballot writeup was generated
2024-10-22
06 Paul Wouters IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup
2024-10-22
06 Paul Wouters Last call announcement was changed
2024-10-21
06 (System) Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed)
2024-10-21
06 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised I-D Needed
2024-10-21
06 Benjamin Schwartz New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-06.txt
2024-10-21
06 (System) New version approved
2024-10-21
06 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2024-10-21
06 Benjamin Schwartz Uploaded new revision
2024-10-02
05 (System) Changed action holders to Paul Wouters, Erik Nygren, Mike Bishop, Benjamin Schwartz (IESG state changed)
2024-10-02
05 Paul Wouters IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from Publication Requested
2024-09-23
05 Sean Turner
# Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents

*This version is dated 4 July 2022.*

Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the …
# Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents

*This version is dated 4 July 2022.*

Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is
answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call
and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your
diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is
further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors
and editors to complete these checks.

Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure
to answer all of them.

## Document History

1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a
  few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement?

This I-D represents the consensus on the WG.

Please note that the text in this I-D was initially developed in the DNSOP WG,
went through IETF LC, and IESG review. The result of the IESG review was to take
the text in this I-D out of RFC 9460 (was draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http) and run the
new I-D through the TLS WG. The text in this I-D is essentially the same text
taken from -11 of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http. In some respects, you could claim
that this I-D has consensus from multiple WGs.

2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where
  the consensus was particularly rough?

There are two things that might be considered controversial and I am stretching here:
How this I-D arrived at TLS. Ben provided a good explanation here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Vct8iUc4IgSHENX2r9IGOQFLkyk/
ECH itself, but that seems to have subside.

3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If
  so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the
  responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this
  questionnaire is publicly available.)

There have been no threats of appeal.

4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of
  the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated
  plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere,
  either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere
  (where)?

This specification is implemented today by Chrome, Firefox, and Safari [1],
and is deployed on all Cloudflare free tier domains [2].

[1] https://chromestatus.com/feature/6196703843581952
[2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-encrypted-client-hello


## Additional Reviews

5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other
  IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit
  from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which
  reviews took place.

As noted earlier, this I-D is about DNS service records and I’d argue there is
not a lot of expertise in the TLS WG on DNS, but the authors are experts. We
also made sure to get an early review from the DNSDIR; see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01-dnsdir-early-lemon-2024-03-29/.
The DNSDIR comments were discussed and resolved; see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/VQcqUuOXSE8sgcp4_CHa6Jlc394/.

Again, the text of this I-D is largely unchanged from what went through
IETF LC and IESG review as draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http before being separated
from what became RFC 9460. It was thoroughly reviewed at that point, and
modifications since then have been minimal.

6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria,
  such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

Note that the underlying protocol (ECH) has undergone security analysis as documented
in https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/vincent.cheval/publis/BCW-ccs22.pdf.

7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module
  been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and
  formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is
  the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module
  comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified
  in [RFC 8342][5]?

N/A

8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the
  final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code,
  BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc.

N/A

## Document Shepherd Checks

9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this
  document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready
  to be handed off to the responsible Area Director?

The Shepherd believes that this document is ready to go.

10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their
reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified
and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent
reviews?

Note that text in this I-D has already been through IETF LC.

11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best
Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13],
[Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type
of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent?

Standards Track is requested. While the registry does not require Standards Track,
Standards Track is appropriate for this I-D because: It was ripped from a Standards
Track RFC, i.e., it would have been in RFC 9460 except for timing. There is sufficient
interest from implementers in supporting ECH with SVCB.

12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual
property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To
the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If
not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links
to publicly-available messages when applicable.

The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all required disclosures have been
filed.

13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be
listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page
is greater than five, please provide a justification.

The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all are willing to be an author.

14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits
tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on
authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates
some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.)

-04 had some nits, but -05 addresses them.

15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG
Statement on Normative and Informative References][16].

There are not many references and they seem to be categorized correctly.

16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did
the community have sufficient access to review any such normative
references?
N/A

17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP
97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so,
list them.

This I-D includes a reference to draft-ietf-tls-esni, but this I-D will progress
with that I-D so the references will be resolved as part of the cluster the RFC
editor will create.

18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be
submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state?
If so, what is the plan for their completion?

See q17.

19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If
so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs
listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the
introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document
where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed.

N/A

20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section,
especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document.
Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are
associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm
that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents,
allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]).

The authors of this I-D created the registry that this I-D registers values in so
there is little chance we got this wrong. The Shepherd double checked that the 5
columns needed for the registry are included and appropriate for this registration.

21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for
future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear?
Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate.

N/A

[1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/
[2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html
[3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html
[4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools
[5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html
[6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics
[7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79
[8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
[9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html
[10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97
[11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html
[12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5
[13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1
[14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2
[15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview
[16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
[17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/
2024-09-23
05 Sean Turner IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up
2024-09-23
05 Sean Turner IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists
2024-09-23
05 (System) Changed action holders to Paul Wouters (IESG state changed)
2024-09-23
05 Sean Turner Responsible AD changed to Paul Wouters
2024-09-23
05 Sean Turner Document is now in IESG state Publication Requested
2024-09-23
05 Sean Turner
# Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents

*This version is dated 4 July 2022.*

Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the …
# Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents

*This version is dated 4 July 2022.*

Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is
answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call
and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your
diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is
further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors
and editors to complete these checks.

Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure
to answer all of them.

## Document History

1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a
  few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement?

This I-D represents the consensus on the WG.

Please note that the text in this I-D was initially developed in the DNSOP WG,
went through IETF LC, and IESG review. The result of the IESG review was to take
the text in this I-D out of RFC 9460 (was draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http) and run the
new I-D through the TLS WG. The text in this I-D is essentially the same text
taken from -11 of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http. In some respects, you could claim
that this I-D has consensus from multiple WGs.

2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where
  the consensus was particularly rough?

There are two things that might be considered controversial and I am stretching here:
How this I-D arrived at TLS. Ben provided a good explanation here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Vct8iUc4IgSHENX2r9IGOQFLkyk/
ECH itself, but that seems to have subside.

3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If
  so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the
  responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this
  questionnaire is publicly available.)

There have been no threats of appeal.

4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of
  the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated
  plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere,
  either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere
  (where)?

This specification is implemented today by Chrome, Firefox, and Safari [1],
and is deployed on all Cloudflare free tier domains [2].

[1] https://chromestatus.com/feature/6196703843581952
[2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-encrypted-client-hello


## Additional Reviews

5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other
  IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit
  from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which
  reviews took place.

As noted earlier, this I-D is about DNS service records and I’d argue there is
not a lot of expertise in the TLS WG on DNS, but the authors are experts. We
also made sure to get an early review from the DNSDIR; see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01-dnsdir-early-lemon-2024-03-29/.
The DNSDIR comments were discussed and resolved; see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/VQcqUuOXSE8sgcp4_CHa6Jlc394/.

Again, the text of this I-D is largely unchanged from what went through
IETF LC and IESG review as draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http before being separated
from what became RFC 9460. It was thoroughly reviewed at that point, and
modifications since then have been minimal.

6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria,
  such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

Note that the underlying protocol (ECH) has undergone security analysis as documented
in https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/vincent.cheval/publis/BCW-ccs22.pdf.

7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module
  been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and
  formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is
  the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module
  comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified
  in [RFC 8342][5]?

N/A

8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the
  final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code,
  BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc.

N/A

## Document Shepherd Checks

9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this
  document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready
  to be handed off to the responsible Area Director?

The Shepherd believes that this document is ready to go.

10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their
reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified
and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent
reviews?

Note that text in this I-D has already been through IETF LC.

11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best
Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13],
[Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type
of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent?

Standards Track is requested. While the registry does not require Standards Track,
Standards Track is appropriate for this I-D because: It was ripped from a Standards
Track RFC, i.e., it would have been in RFC 9460 except for timing. There is sufficient
interest from implementers in supporting ECH with SVCB.

12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual
property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To
the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If
not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links
to publicly-available messages when applicable.

The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all required disclosures have been
filed.

13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be
listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page
is greater than five, please provide a justification.

The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all are willing to be an author.

14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits
tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on
authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates
some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.)

-04 had some nits, but -05 addresses them.

15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG
Statement on Normative and Informative References][16].

There are not many references and they seem to be categorized correctly.

16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did
the community have sufficient access to review any such normative
references?
N/A

17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP
97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so,
list them.

This I-D includes a reference to draft-ietf-tls-esni, but this I-D will progress
with that I-D so the references will be resolved as part of the cluster the RFC
editor will create.

18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be
submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state?
If so, what is the plan for their completion?

See q17.

19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If
so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs
listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the
introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document
where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed.

N/A

20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section,
especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document.
Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are
associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm
that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents,
allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]).

The authors of this I-D created the registry that this I-D registers values in so
there is little chance we got this wrong. The Shepherd double checked that the 5
columns needed for the registry are included and appropriate for this registration.

21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for
future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear?
Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate.

N/A

[1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/
[2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html
[3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html
[4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools
[5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html
[6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics
[7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79
[8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
[9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html
[10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97
[11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html
[12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5
[13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1
[14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2
[15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview
[16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
[17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/
2024-09-10
05 Sean Turner Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2024-09-10
05 Sean Turner Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None
2024-09-10
05 Sean Turner
# Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents

*This version is dated 4 July 2022.*

Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the …
# Document Shepherd Write-Up for Group Documents

*This version is dated 4 July 2022.*

Thank you for your service as a document shepherd. Among the responsibilities is
answering the questions in this write-up to give helpful context to Last Call
and Internet Engineering Steering Group ([IESG][1]) reviewers, and your
diligence in completing it is appreciated. The full role of the shepherd is
further described in [RFC 4858][2]. You will need the cooperation of the authors
and editors to complete these checks.

Note that some numbered items contain multiple related questions; please be sure
to answer all of them.

## Document History

1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a
  few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement?

This I-D represents the consensus on the WG.

Please note that the text in this I-D was initially developed in the DNSOP WG,
went through IETF LC, and IESG review. The result of the IESG review was to take
the text in this I-D out of RFC 9460 (was draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http) and run the
new I-D through the TLS WG. The text in this I-D is essentially the same text
taken from -11 of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http. In some respects, you could claim
that this I-D has consensus from multiple WGs.

2. Was there controversy about particular points, or were there decisions where
  the consensus was particularly rough?

There are two things that might be considered controversial and I am stretching here:
How this I-D arrived at TLS. Ben provided a good explanation here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/Vct8iUc4IgSHENX2r9IGOQFLkyk/
ECH itself, but that seems to have subside.

3. Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If
  so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the
  responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this
  questionnaire is publicly available.)

There have been no threats of appeal.

4. For protocol documents, are there existing implementations of the contents of
  the document? Have a significant number of potential implementers indicated
  plans to implement? Are any existing implementations reported somewhere,
  either in the document itself (as [RFC 7942][3] recommends) or elsewhere
  (where)?

This specification is implemented today by Chrome, Firefox, and Safari [1],
and is deployed on all Cloudflare free tier domains [2].

[1] https://chromestatus.com/feature/6196703843581952
[2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-encrypted-client-hello


## Additional Reviews

5. Do the contents of this document closely interact with technologies in other
  IETF working groups or external organizations, and would it therefore benefit
  from their review? Have those reviews occurred? If yes, describe which
  reviews took place.

As noted earlier, this I-D is about DNS service records and I’d argue there is
not a lot of expertise in the TLS WG on DNS, but the authors are experts. We
also made sure to get an early review from the DNSDIR; see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01-dnsdir-early-lemon-2024-03-29/.
The DNSDIR comments were discussed and resolved; see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/VQcqUuOXSE8sgcp4_CHa6Jlc394/.

Again, the text of this I-D is largely unchanged from what went through
IETF LC and IESG review as draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http before being separated
from what became RFC 9460. It was thoroughly reviewed at that point, and
modifications since then have been minimal.

6. Describe how the document meets any required formal expert review criteria,
  such as the MIB Doctor, YANG Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

N/A

7. If the document contains a YANG module, has the final version of the module
  been checked with any of the [recommended validation tools][4] for syntax and
  formatting validation? If there are any resulting errors or warnings, what is
  the justification for not fixing them at this time? Does the YANG module
  comply with the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) as specified
  in [RFC 8342][5]?

N/A

8. Describe reviews and automated checks performed to validate sections of the
  final version of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code,
  BNF rules, MIB definitions, CBOR's CDDL, etc.

N/A

## Document Shepherd Checks

9. Based on the shepherd's review of the document, is it their opinion that this
  document is needed, clearly written, complete, correctly designed, and ready
  to be handed off to the responsible Area Director?

The Shepherd believes that this document is ready to go.

10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their
reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been identified
and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in subsequent
reviews?

Note that text in this I-D has already been through IETF LC.

11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream ([Best
Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard][13],
[Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the proper type
of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly reflect this intent?

Standards Track is requested. While the registry does not require Standards Track,
Standards Track is appropriate for this I-D because: It was ripped from a Standards
Track RFC, i.e., it would have been in RFC 9460 except for timing. There is sufficient
interest from implementers in supporting ECH with SVCB.

12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the intellectual
property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in [BCP 79][7]? To
the best of your knowledge, have all required disclosures been filed? If
not, explain why. If yes, summarize any relevant discussion, including links
to publicly-available messages when applicable.

The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all required disclosures have been
filed.

13. Has each author, editor, and contributor shown their willingness to be
listed as such? If the total number of authors and editors on the front page
is greater than five, please provide a justification.

The Shepherd has confirmed with the authors that all are willing to be an author.

14. Document any remaining I-D nits in this document. Simply running the [idnits
tool][8] is not enough; please review the ["Content Guidelines" on
authors.ietf.org][15]. (Also note that the current idnits tool generates
some incorrect warnings; a rewrite is underway.)

-04 had some nits, but -05 addresses them.

15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa? See the [IESG
Statement on Normative and Informative References][16].

There are not many references and they seem to be categorized correctly.

16. List any normative references that are not freely available to anyone. Did
the community have sufficient access to review any such normative
references?
N/A

17. Are there any normative downward references (see [RFC 3967][9] and [BCP
97][10]) that are not already listed in the [DOWNREF registry][17]? If so,
list them.

This I-D includes a reference to draft-ietf-tls-esni, but this I-D will progress
with that I-D so the references will be resolved as part of the cluster the RFC
editor will create.

18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready to be
submitted to the IESG for publication or are otherwise in an unclear state?
If so, what is the plan for their completion?

See q17.

19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? If
so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and are those RFCs
listed on the title page, in the abstract, and discussed in the
introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the document
where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs is discussed.

N/A

20. Describe the document shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section,
especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document.
Confirm that all aspects of the document requiring IANA assignments are
associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm
that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm
that each newly created IANA registry specifies its initial contents,
allocations procedures, and a reasonable name (see [RFC 8126][11]).

The authors of this I-D created the registry that this I-D registers values in so
there is little chance we got this wrong. The Shepherd double checked that the 5
columns needed for the registry are included and appropriate for this registration.

21. List any new IANA registries that require Designated Expert Review for
future allocations. Are the instructions to the Designated Expert clear?
Please include suggestions of designated experts, if appropriate.

N/A

[1]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/
[2]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4858.html
[3]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7942.html
[4]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/ops/yang-review-tools
[5]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8342.html
[6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics
[7]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79
[8]: https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
[9]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3967.html
[10]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp97
[11]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html
[12]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-5
[13]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.1
[14]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2026.html#section-4.2
[15]: https://authors.ietf.org/en/content-guidelines-overview
[16]: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
[17]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/downref/
2024-09-10
05 Sean Turner Notification list changed to sean@sn3rd.com because the document shepherd was set
2024-09-10
05 Sean Turner Document shepherd changed to Sean Turner
2024-09-03
05 Benjamin Schwartz New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-05.txt
2024-09-03
05 Erik Nygren New version approved
2024-09-03
05 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2024-09-03
05 Benjamin Schwartz Uploaded new revision
2024-08-20
04 Sean Turner IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call
2024-08-20
04 Benjamin Schwartz New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-04.txt
2024-08-20
04 Benjamin Schwartz New version approved
2024-08-20
04 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2024-08-20
04 Benjamin Schwartz Uploaded new revision
2024-07-23
03 Benjamin Schwartz New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-03.txt
2024-07-23
03 Benjamin Schwartz New version approved
2024-07-23
03 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2024-07-23
03 Benjamin Schwartz Uploaded new revision
2024-06-12
02 Sean Turner
The -02 version addresses DNSDIR review comments. As there are no none open issues (no issues/PRs in the Github repo nor issues on the list), …
The -02 version addresses DNSDIR review comments. As there are no none open issues (no issues/PRs in the Github repo nor issues on the list), it's time to issue a WGLC.
2024-06-12
02 Sean Turner IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document
2024-05-23
02 Erik Nygren New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-02.txt
2024-05-23
02 (System) New version approved
2024-05-23
02 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2024-05-23
02 Erik Nygren Uploaded new revision
2024-03-29
01 Mark Nottingham Closed request for Early review by HTTPDIR with state 'Team Will not Review Document'
2024-03-29
01 Ted Lemon Request for Early review by DNSDIR Completed: Almost Ready. Reviewer: Ted Lemon. Sent review to list.
2024-03-29
01 Geoff Huston Request for Early review by DNSDIR is assigned to Ted Lemon
2024-03-29
01 Sean Turner Requested Early review by HTTPDIR
2024-03-29
01 Sean Turner Requested Early review by DNSDIR
2024-03-27
01 Benjamin Schwartz New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01.txt
2024-03-27
01 Benjamin Schwartz New version approved
2024-03-27
01 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Benjamin Schwartz , Erik Nygren , Mike Bishop
2024-03-27
01 Benjamin Schwartz Uploaded new revision
2023-09-26
00 Erik Nygren This document now replaces draft-sbn-tls-svcb-ech instead of None
2023-09-26
00 Erik Nygren New version available: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-00.txt
2023-09-26
00 Erik Nygren New version accepted (logged-in submitter: Erik Nygren)
2023-09-26
00 Erik Nygren Uploaded new revision