Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL): Fault Management
draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-11
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2015-03-06
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2015-02-02
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2015-01-21
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2014-12-22
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2014-11-28
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11 | Jean Mahoney | Closed request for Telechat review by GENART with state 'No Response' |
2014-11-10
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11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2014-11-09
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11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from Waiting on Authors |
2014-11-07
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11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2014-10-28
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11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress from Waiting on Authors |
2014-10-27
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11 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2014-10-27
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11 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2014-10-27
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11 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2014-10-27
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11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2014-10-27
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11 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2014-10-27
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11 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2014-10-27
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11 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2014-10-27
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11 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2014-10-27
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11 | Amy Vezza | Ballot approval text was generated |
2014-10-25
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11 | Ted Lemon | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2014-10-24
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11 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-11.txt |
2014-10-17
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10 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] Thanks for handling my discuss points. The comments below are old, I didn't check them against the latest draft. ----------------------- - 8.4.4 - … [Ballot comment] Thanks for handling my discuss points. The comments below are old, I didn't check them against the latest draft. ----------------------- - 8.4.4 - is there a possible DoS issue here? - 8.4.13 - why is an authentication TLV OAM specific? - 8.4.13 - I don't (think I have) access to [IS-IS] so I've no idea how this works in general - why not just say that rfc5310 is must-implement and [IS-IS] is a MAY? And why not go further and make HMAC-SHA256 the MTI auth type? - Section 14 says: "Generally, a single operator manages each TRILL campus, hence there is no risk of security exposure." I think that's just bogus if you're trying to say that there are no security issues in managing a campus network. But I guess that's not it, so what are you trying to say? |
2014-10-17
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10 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Stephen Farrell has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-10-17
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10 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-10.txt |
2014-10-09
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09 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot discuss] Mail on -09 sent. Discussion continues. - 8.4.13 - can you explain why automated key management (see BCP107) is not needed here? … [Ballot discuss] Mail on -09 sent. Discussion continues. - 8.4.13 - can you explain why automated key management (see BCP107) is not needed here? I don't see how the symmetric keys required would get to all the relevant boxes, or at least I don't see that specified here or a reference that I can access. |
2014-10-09
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09 | Stephen Farrell | Ballot discuss text updated for Stephen Farrell |
2014-10-01
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09 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot comment] I stand baffled that you won't fix this, but I'm certainly not going to DISCUSS it any longer: 8.4.3: OLD Reserved2: Set … [Ballot comment] I stand baffled that you won't fix this, but I'm certainly not going to DISCUSS it any longer: 8.4.3: OLD Reserved2: Set to zero on transmission and ignored on reception. NEW Reserved2 (12 bits): Set to zero on transmission and ignored on reception. |
2014-10-01
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09 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Pete Resnick has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-10-01
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09 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-09.txt |
2014-09-11
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08 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2014-09-11
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08 | Tissa Senevirathne | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2014-09-11
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08 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-08.txt |
2014-08-18
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07 | Gunter Van de Velde | Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'No Response' |
2014-08-15
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07 | Tero Kivinen | Closed request for Last Call review by SECDIR with state 'No Response' |
2014-08-14
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07 | Richard Barnes | [Ballot comment] My ABSTAIN here is because Donald Eastlake is both chair of the WG and editor of many of its documents. This undermines the … [Ballot comment] My ABSTAIN here is because Donald Eastlake is both chair of the WG and editor of many of its documents. This undermines the consensus process in TRILL to the degree that I cannot support the publication of documents on which he is editor. |
2014-08-14
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07 | Richard Barnes | Ballot comment text updated for Richard Barnes |
2014-08-12
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07 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot comment] Thanks for the additional information to clear my discuss. The scope of the threat mentioned is limited and I'm okay with leaving out … [Ballot comment] Thanks for the additional information to clear my discuss. The scope of the threat mentioned is limited and I'm okay with leaving out mention of it. |
2014-08-12
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07 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Kathleen Moriarty has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-08-07
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07 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2014-08-07
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07 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2014-08-07
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07 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2014-08-07
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07 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot discuss] - 8.4.13 - can you explain why automated key management (see BCP107) is not needed here? I don't see how the symmetric … [Ballot discuss] - 8.4.13 - can you explain why automated key management (see BCP107) is not needed here? I don't see how the symmetric keys required would get to all the relevant boxes, or at least I don't see that specified here or a reference that I can access. |
2014-08-07
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07 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] - 8.4.4 - is there a possible DoS issue here? - 8.4.13 - why is an authentication TLV OAM specific? - 8.4.13 - … [Ballot comment] - 8.4.4 - is there a possible DoS issue here? - 8.4.13 - why is an authentication TLV OAM specific? - 8.4.13 - I don't (think I have) access to [IS-IS] so I've no idea how this works in general - why not just say that rfc5310 is must-implement and [IS-IS] is a MAY? And why not go further and make HMAC-SHA256 the MTI auth type? - Section 14 says: "Generally, a single operator manages each TRILL campus, hence there is no risk of security exposure." I think that's just bogus if you're trying to say that there are no security issues in managing a campus network. But I guess that's not it, so what are you trying to say? |
2014-08-07
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07 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2014-08-07
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] Donald helpfully points out that my Discuss has confused > "TRILL Verison Sub-TLV" which is initially specified in > [RFC7176], Section … [Ballot comment] Donald helpfully points out that my Discuss has confused > "TRILL Verison Sub-TLV" which is initially specified in > [RFC7176], Section 2.3.1 and > "the so-similar-as-to-be-confusingly named "Port TRILL > Version Sub-TLV" in Section 2.2.4 of [RFC7176]. ...so I am happy to clear my Discuss. The following Comments remain and are being discussed with the authors. === A recent conversation with an ITU-T OAM expert wrt a different I-D yielded the following. I think this aplies to your document, too. > Please note that the reference to Y.1731 is not correct. > Since the approval in 2011 the recommendation number > has changed to indicate that it is under responsibility of > SG15. Also the most recent version is dated 11/2013. > > So I suggest that the current reference: > [ITU-T.Y.1731-2011] > ITU, "ITU-T Recommendation Y.1731: OAM functions and > mechanisms for Ethernet based networks", ITU-T > Recommendation Y.1731, 2011. > Is changed into: > [ITU-T.Y.8013-2013] > ITU, "ITU-T Recommendation G.8013/Y.1731: OAM functions and > mechanisms for Ethernet based networks", ITU-T > Recommendation G.8013/Y.1731, 2013. --- You might look for consistency between "Ethertype" [RFC7174], and "Ether Type" and "EtherType" as used in this document. --- 3.2.1 Such frames MUST be discarded. Do you advise this to be silent, counted, logged? --- I think a short piece of text is needed (somewhere around 3.2.1 or 3.3?) to describe how a legacy implementation will react to receiving a frame with the A flag set. In fact, 3.3 of 6325 tells us about this, so most of this can be done by reference. But it is important in the context of OAM to consider what happens when the intended transit recipient of an OAM frame simply and legally forwards a packet. Similarly, it is important to consider what happens at an end station that does not recognise the A flag. Probably you would be noting in 3.3 that a legacy implementation will not know about the O and B flags to say that it does not support OAM, but that according to RFC 7176 those lags will be transmitted as zero so the absence of OAM support will be inferred. Furthermore, I think that the TRILL Version sub-TLV could be absent, so you need to state that this must be taken to mean that OAM is not supported. --- 3.2.1 Frames with the "A" flag set that do not contain CFM EtherType are not considered as OAM frames. Such frames MUST be discarded. No objection if you have thought through the consequences. In the future there is the posibility that a new use of the Alert flag will motivate the use of a diferent EtherType. However, in that case, you will not be able to get frames to pass through legacy nodes. That might be OK (all nodes on the path are assumed to have been upgraded) or very annoying (the new function is only needed at key RBridges on the path). I don't need to dicuss this: just be sure you are doing what you want to do. --- Format of 4.3.1 is messed up by tabs. --- I find it a little bit bothersome that this document and RFC 7174 uses slightly different terminology from that set out in Y.1731. For example, MEP is "MEP - Maintenance End Point" with a reference to [RFC7174] and [8021Q], while Y.1731 (and correlated in RFC 6371 etc.) has "MEG end point". Pretty sure this ship has sailed and that the authors will claim that allignment with 8021Q is more important than allignment within the IETF, but there you go... I'm bothered. --- I tend to agree with you in 6.1 that Hence, explicit addressing of MIPs is not required for the purpose of fault isolation. But I would like to raise the concern expressed by ITU-T OAM experts wrt multiple MIPs within a single RBridge. We saw this discussion in MPLS-TP (see RFC 7054) and it led to the need for some identification of MIPs. BTW, I think that, technically, you are talking about the addressing of MIPs in OAM request messages. I think that when a MIP responds it does need to identify itself, so you *do* need MIP identifiers. --- Shouldn't 8.1 describe the OpCode field? Just a smmary and pointer to 8.2. --- In 8.4.4 you have... Address Type (1 Octet): 0 - IPv4. 1 - IPv6. 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. All other values reserved. Addr Length (1 Octet). 4 - IPv4. 16 - IPv6, 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. Reply Address (variable): Address where the reply needed to be sent. Length depends on the address specification. The description of the Repply Address accurately states that the length of the field depends on the address specification, but that's not the future-proof model you are aiming for when you include the Addr Length field. I think you need... Address Type (1 Octet): 0 - IPv4. 1 - IPv6. 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. All other values reserved. Addr Length (1 Octet). Dependent on the Address Type. Currently defined values are 4 - IPv4. 16 - IPv6, 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. Other lengths may be acceptable for future Address Types. Reply Address (variable): Address where the reply needed to be sent. The length of this field is defined by the value of the Addr Length field. Also Length (2 octets) = Variable. Minimum length is 2. Surely you have to have at least a TRILL nickname, so the minimum value is 4 (Address Type, Addr Length, nickname). --- 8.4.5 needs to describe the Reserved field. Maybe best to take the text in 8.4.3 and lift it to some common part of the document where you can say "all fields in this document marked as reserved..." --- 8.4.7 and 8.4.9 Length (2 octets) = variable. Minimum value is 2. Surely 1. That is nOfnicknames could be set to 0. Also, please describe the nOfnicknames field and clarify how it relates to the Length field. --- 8.4.8 Length (2 octets) = 4. Are you sure? it looks like 5 in the figure. --- 8.4.12 Length (1 octet) =97. 8.4.13 Length (1 octet) = variable length I think it is a 2 octet field in both cases. --- 10.1.2 provides a list of TLVs for inclusion. The way this is presented implies that the ordering is sensitive. The text should clarify this point. Similar issues in other sections. |
2014-08-07
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Adrian Farrel has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2014-08-07
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07 | Amanda Baber | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2014-08-06
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07 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot discuss] Piling on with Adrian: 8.4.3: Length is 9, not 6. Also, it would be useful to indicate the first "Reserved" field is 3 … [Ballot discuss] Piling on with Adrian: 8.4.3: Length is 9, not 6. Also, it would be useful to indicate the first "Reserved" field is 3 octets, and the second is 12 bits. 8.4.10: Like 8.4.5, you never define Reserved. |
2014-08-06
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07 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Pete Resnick |
2014-08-06
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07 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] Thanks for writing this document. I've read through it (not claiming full understanding), and only had two small comment: There are several statements … [Ballot comment] Thanks for writing this document. I've read through it (not claiming full understanding), and only had two small comment: There are several statements of the form: The CPU of the RBridge validates the frame ... While this represents the typical implementation, or perhaps even the only reasonable implementation at this point in time, I'd suggest that an IETF specification should not dictate what part of an implementation performs packet validation and other tasks. Just saying the RBridge validates the frame should be enough, in my opinion. Also, the document has statements of the form: Registry: TRILL OAM Return Codes. Registration Procedure: Standards Action. and I believe it would be useful to reference RC 5226 for understanding what is meant by the various procedure names. |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Jari Arkko has been changed to No Objection from No Record |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] Thanks for writing this document. I've read through it (not claiming full understanding), and only had one comment: There are several statements of … [Ballot comment] Thanks for writing this document. I've read through it (not claiming full understanding), and only had one comment: There are several statements of the form: The CPU of the RBridge validates the frame ... While this represents the typical implementation, or perhaps even the only reasonable implementation at this point in time, I'd suggest that an IETF specification should not dictate what part of an implementation performs packet validation and other tasks. Just saying the RBridge validates the frame should be enough, in my opinion. |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | Ballot comment text updated for Jari Arkko |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | Ballot comment text updated for Jari Arkko |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] > A (1 bit) - Indicates this is a possible OAM frame and is subject > to specific handling as specified in this … [Ballot comment] > A (1 bit) - Indicates this is a possible OAM frame and is subject > to specific handling as specified in this document. I'd prefer saying more explicitly what value indicates an OAM frame. E.g., "A (1 bit) - When set to 1, indicates this is a possible ..." |
2014-08-06
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07 | Jari Arkko | Ballot comment text updated for Jari Arkko |
2014-08-06
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07 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot discuss] I may have missed it, but didn't see any mention in the security considerations section of network reconnaissance activity using the path trace, … [Ballot discuss] I may have missed it, but didn't see any mention in the security considerations section of network reconnaissance activity using the path trace, CCM, and other techniques described to map networks (path and endpoint/RBridges) to be used later in exploits. I may have missed this, but did also check the referenced RFCs (7174 & 6325), please let me know if I missed something. Reconnaissance could be active by an attacker using the described techniques to discover the network or could be a passive observer collecting data from valid uses of the described techniques. |
2014-08-06
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07 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty |
2014-08-06
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07 | Richard Barnes | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Abstain, has been recorded for Richard Barnes |
2014-08-06
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot discuss] I have a number of small comments on this document, but only this one merits a Discuss. I would point out that the … [Ballot discuss] I have a number of small comments on this document, but only this one merits a Discuss. I would point out that the volume of minor editorial, but technically substantive Comments should be cause for concern about this document. --- I read the description of the Capabilities and Header Flags Supported field in section 2.2.4 of RFC 7176 and found... Bits 3 through 13 indicate that the corresponding TRILL Header hop-by-hop extended flags [RFC7179] are supported. Bits 0 through 2 and 14 to 31 are reserved to indicate support of optional capabilities. Now, it looks to me that you are defining the O-flag at bit 2 and the B-flag at bit 3 (with A and F at 0 and 1). Am I right to be confused about this? |
2014-08-06
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] A recent conversation with an ITU-T OAM expert wrt a different I-D yielded the following. I think this aplies to your document, too. … [Ballot comment] A recent conversation with an ITU-T OAM expert wrt a different I-D yielded the following. I think this aplies to your document, too. > Please note that the reference to Y.1731 is not correct. > Since the approval in 2011 the recommendation number > has changed to indicate that it is under responsibility of > SG15. Also the most recent version is dated 11/2013. > > So I suggest that the current reference: > [ITU-T.Y.1731-2011] > ITU, "ITU-T Recommendation Y.1731: OAM functions and > mechanisms for Ethernet based networks", ITU-T > Recommendation Y.1731, 2011. > Is changed into: > [ITU-T.Y.8013-2013] > ITU, "ITU-T Recommendation G.8013/Y.1731: OAM functions and > mechanisms for Ethernet based networks", ITU-T > Recommendation G.8013/Y.1731, 2013. --- You might look for consistency between "Ethertype" [RFC7174], and "Ether Type" and "EtherType" as used in this document. --- 3.2.1 Such frames MUST be discarded. Do you advise this to be silent, counted, logged? --- I think a short piece of text is needed (somewhere around 3.2.1 or 3.3?) to describe how a legacy implementation will react to receiving a frame with the A flag set. In fact, 3.3 of 6325 tells us about this, so most of this can be done by reference. But it is important in the context of OAM to consider what happens when the intended transit recipient of an OAM frame simply and legally forwards a packet. Similarly, it is important to consider what happens at an end station that does not recognise the A flag. Probably you would be noting in 3.3 that a legacy implementation will not know about the O and B flags to say that it does not support OAM, but that according to RFC 7176 those lags will be transmitted as zero so the absence of OAM support will be inferred. Furthermore, I think that the TRILL Version sub-TLV could be absent, so you need to state that this must be taken to mean that OAM is not supported. --- 3.2.1 Frames with the "A" flag set that do not contain CFM EtherType are not considered as OAM frames. Such frames MUST be discarded. No objection if you have thought through the consequences. In the future there is the posibility that a new use of the Alert flag will motivate the use of a diferent EtherType. However, in that case, you will not be able to get frames to pass through legacy nodes. That might be OK (all nodes on the path are assumed to have been upgraded) or very annoying (the new function is only needed at key RBridges on the path). I don't need to dicuss this: just be sure you are doing what you want to do. --- Format of 4.3.1 is messed up by tabs. --- I find it a little bit bothersome that this document and RFC 7174 uses slightly different terminology from that set out in Y.1731. For example, MEP is "MEP - Maintenance End Point" with a reference to [RFC7174] and [8021Q], while Y.1731 (and correlated in RFC 6371 etc.) has "MEG end point". Pretty sure this ship has sailed and that the authors will claim that allignment with 8021Q is more important than allignment within the IETF, but there you go... I'm bothered. --- I tend to agree with you in 6.1 that Hence, explicit addressing of MIPs is not required for the purpose of fault isolation. But I would like to raise the concern expressed by ITU-T OAM experts wrt multiple MIPs within a single RBridge. We saw this discussion in MPLS-TP (see RFC 7054) and it led to the need for some identification of MIPs. BTW, I think that, technically, you are talking about the addressing of MIPs in OAM request messages. I think that when a MIP responds it does need to identify itself, so you *do* need MIP identifiers. --- Shouldn't 8.1 describe the OpCode field? Just a smmary and pointer to 8.2. --- In 8.4.4 you have... Address Type (1 Octet): 0 - IPv4. 1 - IPv6. 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. All other values reserved. Addr Length (1 Octet). 4 - IPv4. 16 - IPv6, 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. Reply Address (variable): Address where the reply needed to be sent. Length depends on the address specification. The description of the Repply Address accurately states that the length of the field depends on the address specification, but that's not the future-proof model you are aiming for when you include the Addr Length field. I think you need... Address Type (1 Octet): 0 - IPv4. 1 - IPv6. 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. All other values reserved. Addr Length (1 Octet). Dependent on the Address Type. Currently defined values are 4 - IPv4. 16 - IPv6, 2 - TRILL RBridge nickname. Other lengths may be acceptable for future Address Types. Reply Address (variable): Address where the reply needed to be sent. The length of this field is defined by the value of the Addr Length field. Also Length (2 octets) = Variable. Minimum length is 2. Surely you have to have at least a TRILL nickname, so the minimum value is 4 (Address Type, Addr Length, nickname). --- 8.4.5 needs to describe the Reserved field. Maybe best to take the text in 8.4.3 and lift it to some common part of the document where you can say "all fields in this document marked as reserved..." --- 8.4.7 and 8.4.9 Length (2 octets) = variable. Minimum value is 2. Surely 1. That is nOfnicknames could be set to 0. Also, please describe the nOfnicknames field and clarify how it relates to the Length field. --- 8.4.8 Length (2 octets) = 4. Are you sure? it looks like 5 in the figure. --- 8.4.12 Length (1 octet) =97. 8.4.13 Length (1 octet) = variable length I think it is a 2 octet field in both cases. --- 10.1.2 provides a list of TLVs for inclusion. The way this is presented implies that the ordering is sensitive. The text should clarify this point. Similar issues in other sections. |
2014-08-06
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07 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel |
2014-08-05
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07 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2014-07-31
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07 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Wassim Haddad |
2014-07-31
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07 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Wassim Haddad |
2014-07-29
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07 | Tissa Senevirathne | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2014-07-29
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07 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-07.txt |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2014-08-07 |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | Ballot has been issued |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ted Lemon |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | Created "Approve" ballot |
2014-07-21
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06 | Ted Lemon | Ballot writeup was changed |
2014-07-21
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06 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2014-07-17
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
2014-07-17
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06 | Pearl Liang | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-06. Authors should review the comments and/or questions below. Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-06. Authors should review the comments and/or questions below. Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon as possible. We received the following comments/questions from the IANA's reviewer: IANA has questions about some of the actions requested in the IANA Considerations section of this draft document. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document there are six actions which IANA must complete. First, in the TRILL Neighbor TLV NEIGHBOR RECORD Flags subregistry in the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL) Parameters registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/trill-parameters/ two new capability flags are to be registered as follows: Bit: [ TBD-at-registration ] Description: OAM capable Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Bit: [ TBD-at-registration ] Description: Backwards compatible OAM Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] IANA notes that the authors have suggested bits 2 and 3 for these capability flags. Second, in the CFM OAM IETF OpCodes subregistry of the Connectivity Fault Management (CFM) OAM IETF Parameters registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/cfm-oam/ four new Op-Codes are to be registered as follows: Value: [ TBD-at-registration ] Description: Path Trace Reply Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-registration ] Description: Path Trace Message Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-registration ] Description: Multicast Tree Verification Reply Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-registration ] Description: Multicast Tree Verification Messages Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] IANA notes that the authors have suggested values of 64, 65, 66, and 67 for these Op-Codes. QUESTIONs: 1) Is this a typo? Section 10.1.2. Intermediate RBridge, the following texts talk about TBD1: /snip/ Set the Return Code to (1) "Reply" and Return sub code to zero (2) "Intermediate RBridge". Update the TRILL OAM opcode to TBD1 (Path Trace Message Reply). /snip/ Is there an extra word in the text "(Path Trace Message Reply)"? According to section 15.2, TBD1 reads: TBD1[64] Path Trace Reply [this document] 2) Is "Multicast Tree Verification Messages" (TBD4[67]) plural or single? Third, in the CFM OAM IETF TLV Types subregistry also in the Connectivity Fault Management (CFM) OAM IETF Parameters registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/cfm-oam/ eleven new TLV Types are to be registered as follows: Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: TRILL OAM Application Identifier TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Out of Band Reply Address TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Diagnostic Label TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Original Data Payload TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: RBridge Scope TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Previous RBridge nickname TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Next Hop RBridge List TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Multicast Receiver Port count TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Flow Identifier TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Reflector Entropy TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ] Description: Authentication TLV Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] IANA notes that the authors have suggested values 64 through 74 for these eleven new TLV types. Fourth, in the IANA Unicast 48-bit MAC Addresses subregistry of the IANA MAC ADDRESS BLOCK registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ethernet-numbers/ a new unicast MAC address will be assigned as follows: Address: [ TBD-at-registration ] Usage: TRILL OAM Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] QUESTION: The MAC Address registry has Expert Review in the registry and Donald Eastlake is the DE. Since Donald is one of the authors of the document, is that served as his approval as the primary expert? Should this be reviewed by the secondary expert? IANA needs a clarification on that. Fifth, in the IANA Multicast 48-bit MAC Addresses subregistry also in the IANA MAC ADDRESS BLOCK registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ethernet-numbers/ a new multicast MAC address will be assigned as follows: Address: [ TBD-at-registration ] Usage: TRILL OAM Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] QUESTION: The MAC Address registry has Expert Review in the registry and Donald Eastlake is the DE. Since Donald is one of the authors of the document, is that served as his approval as the primary expert? Should this be reviewed by the secondary expert? IANA needs a clarification on that. Sixth, a new registry is to be created called the TRILL OAM Return code sub registry - located in the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL) Parameters registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/trill-parameters/ IANA Question -> How are the new registry and the subregistries associated with subcodes to be maintained (using the definitions available in RFC 5226)? There are initial contents for the Return code registry as follows: Return Code Assignment Reference ====|==============|=========== 0 Request message [ RFC-to-be ] 1 Reply message [ RFC-to-be ] 2-255 Unassigned For each Return Code in the registry above, IANA understands that there will be an associated sub-code registry. Sub Codes for TRILL OAM Return Code 0 Sub Description Reference Code ===|===============|========= 0 Valid Request [ RFC-to-be ] 1-255 Unassigned Sub Codes for TRILL OAM Return Code 1 Sub Description Reference Code ===|===============|========== 0 Valid response [ RFC-to-be ] 1 Fragment limit exceed [ RFC-to-be ] 2 Intermediate RBridge [ RFC-to-be ] 3-255 Unassigned IANA understands that these six actions are the only ones that need to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is only to confirm what actions will be performed. |
2014-07-06
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06 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Mahalingam Mani |
2014-07-06
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06 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Mahalingam Mani |
2014-07-03
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06 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Wassim Haddad |
2014-07-03
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06 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Wassim Haddad |
2014-07-03
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06 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Zach Shelby |
2014-07-03
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06 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Zach Shelby |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (TRILL Fault Management) to Proposed … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (TRILL Fault Management) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG (trill) to consider the following document: - 'TRILL Fault Management' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-07-21. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies TRILL OAM Fault Management. Methods in this document follow the IEEE 802.1 CFM (Continuity Fault Management) framework and reuse OAM tools where possible. Additional messages and TLVs are defined for TRILL specific applications or where a different set of information is required other than IEEE 802.1 CFM. This document updates RFC 6325. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2082/ |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | Last call was requested |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | Ballot approval text was generated |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | Ballot writeup was generated |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from Publication Requested |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | Last call announcement was changed |
2014-06-30
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06 | Amy Vezza | Last call announcement was generated |
2014-06-29
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06 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-06.txt |
2014-06-04
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05 | Donald Eastlake | Form version: 24 February 2012. Submission date: Document Shepherd: Susan Hares WG Chairs: Jon Hudson and Donald Eastlake AD: Ted Lemon: (1) RFC type: Proposed … Form version: 24 February 2012. Submission date: Document Shepherd: Susan Hares WG Chairs: Jon Hudson and Donald Eastlake AD: Ted Lemon: (1) RFC type: Proposed Standard Correct type because it is OAM for Fault management. (Standard Track on page) (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Technical Summary This document specifies the TRILL OAM Fault management. Methods in this document follow the IEEE 802.1 CFM (Continuity Fault Management) framework and reuse OAM tools wherever possible. Additional messages are defined and TLVs are defined for TRILL specific applications or where a different set of information is required other than IEEE 802.1 CFM. This proposed standard does update RFC 6325. Working Group Summary The WG has worked on the TRILL OAM FM within the working group, and with the IEEE 802.1 task group. This solution provides a blended solution between TRILL and 802.1 OAM. The final review 3/7 - 3/24 garnered a editorial comments, but no significant technical comments. Document Quality The TRILL OAM FM has implementations begun in the Cisco, Huawei, and other router companies (2-3). The co-authors on this draft are in touch with the implementation teams at Cisco and Huawei, and in-touch with some members of the 802.1 Working Group within the IEEE. The document's text and logic is excellent. Even with the ~60 page length, the shepherd found very few editorial issues. (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. The Shepherd did a detailed review resulting in the numerous changes from draft version -03 to -04 to -05 including editorials, IANA Considerations fixes, and reference updates. No technical changes were made. (There is one remaining glitch, a single missing character in one occurrence of "[RF7180]" that should be "[RFC7180]". This can be fixed as part of AD review or the reslution of IETF Last Call comments.) (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No, the implementers are reviewing the document during coding and debugging. Textual edits have been done by Tissa Senevirathne. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. IANA needs to review section 15. Shepherd/Secretary will request that the IANA do an early review. OPSDIR needs to review all of document. Shepherd/Secretary will request that OPSDIR Do an early review. RTGDIR should do a review of the OAM FM. Shepherd/Secretary will request that RTGDIR do an early review. Some members of the IEEE 802.1 WG have been reviewing this document, and a key contributors (Norm Finn and Donald Eastlake) have worked on this draft. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? No concerns. This draft demonstrates fine collaboration between the some members of the IEEE 802.1 WG and TRILL. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. WG LC on IPR was issued on 4/14/14 and all authors have now responded. Cisco disclosed IPR https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2082/ (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? IPR 2082 filed: Cisco is the owner of US Published Patent Applications 20120014261 and 20110194403 relating to the subject matter of "TRILL Fault Management" . Cisco wil not assert patent on usage if other company does not assert patents. [mutual patent assertion] if this becomes a standard. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? Solid consensus of those implementing. Current silence occurs after 2-3 years of discussions. (10) No appeals, no disconnect, only - this is done! (11) NITS - Miscellaneous warnings: 1) Warning - but this does not have work before 2008 2) document - 53 days in past - Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. Document needs IANA, OPSDIR, and RTRDIR Review. Early reviews will be requested. (13)/(14)/(15) Normative/informative All References are normative or informative. All normative references are specified, and no normative reference is downward. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? This updates RFC 6325, and this is listed. (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. To the Best of The shepherd's review, the registries are correctly specified. Due to the number of IANA assignments, an early review will be requested. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. New registry created in Section 15.4 for return codes for PTR (Path Trace Reply) messages, uses IETF Review so no new Expert required. Existing registries: section 15.1 TRILL-VER Sub-TLV Capability Flags - IETF review section 15.2 CF OAM IETF Parameters registry set up by draft-eastlake-iana-cfm-considerations-02.txt with assignment by Standards Action. This section requests assignment of OpCodes from this new registry. This section requests assignment of TLV Types from this new registry. section 15.3 requests 2 MACs from the IANA MAC ADDRESS Block. This block requires expert review (Donald Eastlake, Dan Romascanu) (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. No XML, no BNF, No Mib. |
2014-06-04
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05 | Donald Eastlake | State Change Notice email list changed to trill-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm@tools.ietf.org |
2014-06-04
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05 | Donald Eastlake | Responsible AD changed to Ted Lemon |
2014-06-04
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05 | Donald Eastlake | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Document |
2014-06-04
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05 | Donald Eastlake | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2014-06-04
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05 | Donald Eastlake | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2014-06-04
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05 | Susan Hares | Changed document writeup |
2014-05-31
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05 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-05.txt |
2014-05-31
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04 | Susan Hares | Changed document writeup |
2014-05-30
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04 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-04.txt |
2014-05-27
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03 | Susan Hares | Changed document writeup |
2014-05-27
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03 | Susan Hares | Changed document writeup |
2014-05-26
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03 | Susan Hares | Changed document writeup |
2014-04-19
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03 | Donald Eastlake | Document shepherd changed to Susan Hares |
2014-04-03
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03 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-03.txt |
2014-03-03
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02 | Jon Hudson | Document shepherd changed to Jon Hudson |
2014-02-20
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02 | Donald Eastlake | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2014-02-13
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02 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-02.txt |
2014-01-13
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01 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-01.txt |
2013-07-11
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00 | Tissa Senevirathne | New version available: draft-ietf-trill-oam-fm-00.txt |