Ballot for draft-ietf-v6ops-framework-md-ipv6only-underlay
Yes
No Objection
Abstain
Recuse
No Record
Summary: Has enough positions to pass.
Thanks to Chongfeng and the other authors for addressing my previous blocking DISCUSS issues (see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/o-R9edbNTwZWoJYxfD8mMbcMZQo/). There are still many BCP14 "SHOULD" that could either be "MUST" or "should" (if not linked to interoperability) or be accompanied with the BCP14 guidance though.
## COMMENTS (previous for Discussion) I see changes in -29 (that were made in an earlier revision). These are sufficient to change my position for my previous comments on Section 7. For completeness, the original reviewed text read: "In addition, section 4.1 and section 5.1 of [RFC7915] give translators a SHOULD-level option to zero the TOS/ Traffic Class octet entirely on translation ("administrative bleaching"), which silently kills ECN if an operator enables it for DSCP hygiene." (1) Is it possible to avoid terms such as "DSCP hygiene", avoid "kills" (blocks?) and avoid/clarify that the term "TOS/Traffic Class octet" is Historic. I note that RFC 7915 refers to the former ToS Field" and introduces ToS semantics, this detail should be clarified in the present document, because such a policy is no longer applicable in 2026. (2) I would like to discuss if this I-D can clearly state that other fields in the IPv4/IPv6 header ought to be mapped to corresponding values, in particular the DiffServ Field (subject to the filtering and update considerations of [RFC2475]) and the ECN Field. As per https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6146-bis/ ## COMMENTS (non-blocking) ### Section 7: Operational Considerations “Therefore, network providers must handle MTU and fragmentation issues, for example, by configuring appropriate MSS clamping," - This is a TCP-specific mechanism, it would be super helpful to indicate that this is for "TCP". Thank for addressing the above concerns. Gorry
Original DISCUSS: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/9qcdB1zAfbSchu_EFu0Q_gmh5b8/ Thank to the author team for resolving all my DISCUSS points: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/V6ugy9ErNl1dVANMy74sHTeMcuU/ Be well, G/
Thanks to the authors and the WG for their work on this document. As someone that supports IPv6 and especially IPv6-only underlay deployments, I fully support this work now that its scope has been clarified. My thanks to Chongfeng/co-authors for all the discussions and working through the updates as well as their patience as we went through this process. I hope this helps make this document very clear in its positioning and support the proposed BGP routing work.
# IESG review of draft-ietf-v6ops-framework-md-ipv6only-underlay-27 CC @MikeBishop ## Comments ### Section 2, paragraph 1 This section expands common abbreviations, but doesn't point to definitions of the expanded terms. ## Nits All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may choose to address in some way - or ignore - as you see fit. Some were flagged by automated tools (via https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool), so there will likely be some false positives. There is no need to let me know what you did with these suggestions. ### Typos #### Section 1, paragraph 2 ``` - IETF work focusing on IPv6 optimization”[IAB-statement]. To ensure + IETF work focusing on IPv6 optimization” [IAB-statement]. To ensure + + ```
I note that the document is Informational and can accept that it references a lot of work in progress to some extent from that status. This document seems to be more of a guiding draft of "how this could work" not how one can realize this framework today. I'm abstaining mostly related to the noted lack of coordination with the routing area WGs on which this proposed framework relies. I would like to see some level of consensus with those WGs.
Thank you to Stewart Bryant for the GENART review. I support the DISCUSS positions of Gorry Fairhurst and Ketan Talaulikar. In these positions, I would like to highlight the GENAREA issues already noted by Ketan on charter scope and applicability. I am balloting abstain because it is unclear to me what normative, interoperability-focused behavior is being specified in this document. Furthermore, it is unclear in what way to apply this framework and where. A few additional comments on the security considerations: ** Section 8.1 In this framework, as the receiver of IPv4-embedded IPv6 packets, each egress PE assumes that all ingress PEs are legal and authorized to send IPv4-embedded IPv6 packets to it. What makes a packet “legal”? ** Section 8.1 If IPv6 packets cannot guarantee their authenticity or integrity, then there may be a spoofing attack What is the appropriate mechanism for a IPv6 packet to use to guarantee “authenticity” or “integrity”?
I contributed to early versions of this document, hence preferring to recuse and hand it over to Mahesh (thanks).
I debated this one heavily with myself between DISCUSS and ABSTAIN because while this is a topic I think makes sense to have a document on, I think everyone else has sufficiently pointed out enough issues that I do not think it would be productive for me to laundry list everything at the risk of suggesting I caught everything I would want to correct. I sincerely appreciate the intdir review (and everyone else's from directorates) for the addition insight that has pushed me to ABSTAIN. I think the document, despite its obviously dedicated revisions, needs to fundamentally be rewritten before it would be appropriate for publication.