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draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-06

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Date Rev. By Action
2012-08-22
06 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Harald Alvestrand
2004-04-07
06 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2004-04-06
06 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2004-04-06
06 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2004-04-06
06 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2004-04-03
06 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2004-04-02
2004-04-02
06 Amy Vezza State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza
2004-04-02
06 Allison Mankin [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Allison Mankin by Allison Mankin
2004-04-02
06 Harald Alvestrand
[Ballot comment]
Reviewed by Spencer Dawkins, Gen-ART.
Complete review available from
http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/reviews/draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-06-dawkins.txt

This could very easily have been a DISCUSS. But the -ivm document is …
[Ballot comment]
Reviewed by Spencer Dawkins, Gen-ART.
Complete review available from
http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/reviews/draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-06-dawkins.txt

This could very easily have been a DISCUSS. But the -ivm document is completed, so this document is "documenting the thinking of the group" rather than telling other people what the requirements are. That limits the value of making the goals document better.

High points:

The biggest "open issue" is that this requirements document has some
really vague "MUSTs" that need to be spelled out in more detail. For
example, "and MUST gracefully handle the case where a legacy receiving
system does not support the IVM codecs" - if the working group is
going to use this document as a filter for proposals that don't meet
the MUSTs, how would anyone know whether a proposal meets this MUST?

In general, the requirements that include the words "specifically,
this includes" are fine. It's the ones that don't include these words
that have problems!

My impression is that most of the people who have provided comments on
the draft probably understand the context, which is fine for the
working group but not-so-fine for reviewers outside the working group.
2004-04-02
06 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot Position Update] Position for Harald Alvestrand has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Harald Alvestrand
2004-04-02
06 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot comment]
Reviewed by Spencer Dawkins, Gen-ART.
Complete review available from
http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/reviews/draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-06-dawkins.txt
2004-04-02
06 Harald Alvestrand
[Ballot discuss]
This is a borderline DISCUSS. I'd like to give the WG a chance to respond to Spencer's comments.

From Spencer:

The biggest "open …
[Ballot discuss]
This is a borderline DISCUSS. I'd like to give the WG a chance to respond to Spencer's comments.

From Spencer:

The biggest "open issue" is that this requirements document has some
really vague "MUSTs" that need to be spelled out in more detail. For
example, "and MUST gracefully handle the case where a legacy receiving
system does not support the IVM codecs" - if the working group is
going to use this document as a filter for proposals that don't meet
the MUSTs, how would anyone know whether a proposal meets this MUST?

In general, the requirements that include the words "specifically,
this includes" are fine. It's the ones that don't include these words
that have problems!

My impression is that most of the people who have provided comments on
the draft probably understand the context, which is fine for the
working group but not-so-fine for reviewers outside the working group.
2004-04-02
06 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Harald Alvestrand by Harald Alvestrand
2004-04-01
06 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2004-04-01
06 Steven Bellovin [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Steve Bellovin by Steve Bellovin
2004-03-31
06 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie
2004-03-26
06 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Scott Hollenbeck
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck Ballot has been issued by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck Created "Approve" ballot
2004-03-23
06 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2004-03-23
06 (System) Last call text was added
2004-03-23
06 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck Placed on agenda for telechat - 2004-04-02 by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck State Change Notice email list have been change to from ,
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck State Changes to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-03-23
06 Scott Hollenbeck [Note]: 'Revised ID needed per attached IESG comments' has been cleared by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-03-22
06 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-06.txt
2004-03-15
05 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-05.txt
2004-03-10
06 Scott Hollenbeck Shepherding AD has been changed to Scott Hollenbeck from Ned Freed
2003-11-23
06 Ned Freed [Note]: 'Revised ID needed per attached IESG comments' added by Ned Freed
2003-11-23
06 Ned Freed
The document has no security considerations.  At a minimum, the IESG  expected it to say that authenticated and/or encrypted voice
messages must be supported.

This …
The document has no security considerations.  At a minimum, the IESG  expected it to say that authenticated and/or encrypted voice
messages must be supported.

This document calls for mandatory support for WAV encapsulation but this was dropped in the actual IVM specification. The discussion of WAV support therefore needs to be removed. Additionally, this document makes VPIMv2 codec a SHOULD while in the actual IVM document it is only a MAY; this also needs to be aligned.
2003-11-21
06 Amy Vezza Removed from agenda for telechat - 2003-11-20 by Amy Vezza
2003-11-20
06 Amy Vezza State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza
2003-11-19
06 Harald Alvestrand Can't approve a document that says MUST for support of "wav" without a reference to a definition of "wav".
2003-11-03
06 Ned Freed Placed on agenda for telechat - 2003-11-20 by Ned Freed
2003-11-03
06 Ned Freed State Changes to IESG Evaluation from AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed by Ned Freed
2003-11-03
06 Ned Freed [Note]: 'Revisions made; ready for IESG evaluation' added by Ned Freed
2003-06-20
04 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-04.txt
2003-02-07
06 Ned Freed
AD review comments:

The VPIM acryonym needs to be expanded in the abstract.

References need to be split into normative and informative groups.

The [CODES] …
AD review comments:

The VPIM acryonym needs to be expanded in the abstract.

References need to be split into normative and informative groups.

The [CODES] reference should be updated to point at RFC 3463.
2003-02-07
06 Ned Freed Intended Status has been changed to Informational from None
2003-02-07
06 Ned Freed State Changes to AD Evaluation  :: Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Freed, Ned
2002-11-04
06 Ned Freed Draft Added by Freed, Ned
2002-11-04
03 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-03.txt
2001-05-03
02 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-02.txt
2001-03-01
01 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-01.txt
2000-11-15
00 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-vpim-ivm-goals-00.txt