Datagram Transport Layer Security
draft-rescorla-dtls-05
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2012-08-22
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05 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the Yes position for Ted Hardie |
2012-08-22
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05 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the Yes position for Allison Mankin |
2005-06-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza |
2005-06-24
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2005-06-24
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2005-06-24
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05 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2005-06-24
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Russ Housley |
2005-06-24
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2005-06-24
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-rescorla-dtls-05.txt |
2005-06-20
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05 | Russ Housley | Allison, Mark Allman, Eric Rescorla and I have reached consensus on text that will resolve the network congestion issue. A revised I-D that includes the … Allison, Mark Allman, Eric Rescorla and I have reached consensus on text that will resolve the network congestion issue. A revised I-D that includes the revised text will be published soon. As soon as it is, the document can be approved. |
2005-06-20
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05 | Allison Mankin | [Ballot comment] Worked with Mark Allman and Ekr to edit the RTO/rtx discussion so it's congestion-aware, based on RFC 2988. DCCP needs to be … [Ballot comment] Worked with Mark Allman and Ekr to edit the RTO/rtx discussion so it's congestion-aware, based on RFC 2988. DCCP needs to be careful when it writes DTLS/DCCP, as does DTLS/unordered SCTP. |
2005-06-20
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05 | Allison Mankin | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Allison Mankin has been changed to Yes from Discuss by Allison Mankin |
2005-05-12
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation - Defer by Amy Vezza |
2005-05-12
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05 | Allison Mankin | [Ballot discuss] Overall excellent specification...and each iteration has improved it. Here are the results from the review by Mark Allman. He didn't write it up … [Ballot discuss] Overall excellent specification...and each iteration has improved it. Here are the results from the review by Mark Allman. He didn't write it up formally, but he send a note advising us to request changes in 4.2.4.1 as follows: why is 793 the reference instead of 2988. The document seems to use a static timeout of 500msec when 2988 calls for a min of 1sec. That discrepency seems to warrant justification. (SCTP also uses such a timeout, I believe -- i.e., it's general advice.) Also, 2988 allows for a maximum RTO of 60 seconds rather than the 240 seconds called for by DTLS. I think you authors should provide an answer to the discrepancy by pointing out that this is for an RTO used only in a handshake phase, whereas TCP's RTO is for all of its traffic and also TCP's has a consequence for its throughput, so underestimation is a bad choice. But still, the 2988 reference is the right one, rather than 793. Implementations SHOULD start the timer value at the initial value with each new flight of messages. The timer should stay at the backed-off value until a transmission without loss occurs, at which point it can be collapsed back down to the initial value. (Mark supported this view). During a period of congestion, your SHOULD is likely to make large populations worsen congestion by retransmitting early into that congestion. 2988 btw might advise some implementors to measure for the subsequent transmissions. For the purposes of the overall implementation, RTO can also collapsed back down to the initial value after some time period without any flights (for instance some multiple of RTO). |
2005-05-12
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05 | Allison Mankin | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Allison Mankin by Allison Mankin |
2005-05-12
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05 | Alex Zinin | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alex Zinin by Alex Zinin |
2005-05-11
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05 | Jon Peterson | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jon Peterson by Jon Peterson |
2005-05-11
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05 | Margaret Cullen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman |
2005-04-26
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05 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2005-04-25 |
2005-04-25
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation - Defer from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza |
2005-04-25
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05 | Michelle Cotton | IANA Comments: Upon approval the IANA will assign a value for a new handshake message, hello_verify_request (suggested value 3). This assignment will be made in … IANA Comments: Upon approval the IANA will assign a value for a new handshake message, hello_verify_request (suggested value 3). This assignment will be made in a registry created by draft-ietf-tls-rfc2246-bis. This document itself does not create any new registries. |
2005-04-25
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05 | Bert Wijnen | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Bert Wijnen has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Bert Wijnen |
2005-04-25
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05 | Bert Wijnen | [Ballot comment] Comments recorded here to ensure they get picked up. Author (Eric) has already agreed to make sure these nits will be addressed. From … [Ballot comment] Comments recorded here to ensure they get picked up. Author (Eric) has already agreed to make sure these nits will be addressed. From AAA-doctors review (Jari): Its a great spec! Some minor nits below, however. Hope you find them useful... > 4.1.1. Transport Layer Mapping > > Each DTLS record MUST fit within a single datagram. In order > to avoid IP fragmentation [MOGUL], DTLS implementations SHOULD > determine the MTU and send records smaller than the MTU. DTLS > implementations SHOULD provide a way for applications to > determine the value of the PMTU (or alternately the maximum > application datagram size, which is the PMTU minus the DTLS > per-record overhead). If the application attempts to send a > > ... > > 4.1.1.1. PMTU Discovery > > In general, DTLS's philosophy is to avoid dealing with PMTU > issues. The general strategy is to start with a conservative > MTU and then update it if events require it, but not actively > probe for MTU values. PMTU discovery is left to the > application. I think I know what you intend to do here, but the above two text pieces appear to be in conflict. And isn't PMTU probing is more or less what you are doing in Section 4.1.1.1 anyway? Suggest changing the latter text to "The general strategy is to start with a conservative MTU and then update it if events either during the handshake or actual application data transport phase require it." > The PMTU SHOULD be initialized from the interface MTU that > will be used to send packets. If the DTLS implementation > receives an RFC 1191 [RFC1191] ICMP Destination Unreachable > message with the "fragmentation needed and DF set" Code > (otherwise known as Datagram Too Big) it should decrease its > PMTU estimate to that given in the ICMP message. A DTLS > implementation SHOULD allow the application to occasionally > reset its PMTU estimate. The DTLS implementation SHOULD also > allow applications to control the status of the DF bit. These > controls allow the application to perform PMTU discovery. How does this play with RFC 1981, IPv6 version of PMTU discovery? At least the ICMPs are different, and the IPv6 version appears to say something more specific about the aging of PTMU information. Suggest adding "RFC 1981 procedures SHOULD be followed for IPv6.", or something to this effect. > 2. An attacker can use the server as an amplifier by > sending connection initiation messages with a forged source > of the victim. The server then sends its next message (in > DTLS, a Certificate message, which can be quite large) to > the victim machine, thus flooding it. > ... > Although DTLS servers are not required to do a cookie > exchange, they SHOULD do so whenever a new handshake is > performed in order to avoid being used as amplifiers. If the > server is being operated in an environment where amplification > is not a problem, the server MAY choose not to perform a > cookie exchange. In addition, the server MAY choose not do to > a cookie exchange when a session is resumed. Clients MUST be > prepared to do a cookie exchange with every handshake. This is pretty good stuff. But given that the victim is a different entity than the one that decides whether the cookies are used, I wonder if you should say this slightly differently. Maybe "DTLS servers SHOULD perform a cookie exchange whenever a new handshake is being performed. If the server is being operated in an environment where amplification is not a problem, the server MAY be configured to not to perform a cookie exchange. The default SHOULD be that the exchange is performed, however. In addition, the server MAY choose not do to a cookie exchange when a session is resumed. Clients MUST be prepared to do a cookie exchange with every handshake." > layer security protocol. SIP, for instance, uses a subsert of s/subsert/subset/ > Multiple DTLS records may be placed in a single datagram. hey s/hey/They/ > Section 3.4.3 of [RFC 2402] s/]/]./ > A.1?Summary of new syntax Non-ascii char. |
2005-04-25
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05 | Bert Wijnen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Bert Wijnen by Bert Wijnen |
2005-04-25
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05 | David Kessens | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens |
2005-04-24
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05 | Mark Townsley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mark Townsley by Mark Townsley |
2005-04-24
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05 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot comment] I suspect that some more examples will be needed as we find out how people manage to read this spec and make non-interoperable … [Ballot comment] I suspect that some more examples will be needed as we find out how people manage to read this spec and make non-interoperable implementations. This seems like a fine level of detail for a proposed standard but probably will need revisions for draft. Overall quite well done. |
2005-04-24
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05 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Sam Hartman by Sam Hartman |
2005-04-23
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05 | Bill Fenner | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bill Fenner by Bill Fenner |
2005-04-22
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05 | Ted Hardie | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Hardie has been changed to Yes from Discuss by Ted Hardie |
2005-04-21
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05 | Ted Hardie | [Ballot discuss] In line with the proposal to always reference where the format syntax is derived, this document probably needs to have an explicit reference … [Ballot discuss] In line with the proposal to always reference where the format syntax is derived, this document probably needs to have an explicit reference to the document in which it is defined. RFC2246 has this text: This document deals with the formatting of data in an external representation. The following very basic and somewhat casually defined presentation syntax will be used. The syntax draws from several sources in its structure. Although it resembles the programming language "C" in its syntax and XDR [XDR] in both its syntax and intent, it would be risky to draw too many parallels. The purpose of this presentation language is to document TLS only, not to have general application beyond that particular goal. so I presume 2246 is its own reference. 2246-bis-10 retains the same language. I believe either could be used as the reference for DTLS. Given the other references to 2246-bis-10, I'd suggest making it the reference for this explicitly and calling it done. Possibly just changing the sentence in Section 4: Therefore, instead of presenting DTLS as a new protocol, we instead present it as a series of deltas from TLS 1.1 [TLS11]. Therefore, instead of presenting DTLS as a new protocol, we instead present it as a series of deltas from TLS 1.1 [TLS11], using the same syntax as in [TLS11]. |
2005-04-21
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05 | Ted Hardie | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Hardie has been changed to Discuss from Undefined by Ted Hardie |
2005-04-21
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05 | Ted Hardie | [Ballot comment] Nits: However, over the past few years an increasing number of application layer protocols have been designed which UDP transport. --> … [Ballot comment] Nits: However, over the past few years an increasing number of application layer protocols have been designed which UDP transport. --> which use UDP as a transport. SIP, for instance, uses a subsert of S/MIME to secure its traffic. -->subset of S/MIME it typically require a large amount of effort to design --->requires using the following sliding, window procedure --->sliding window procedure? |
2005-04-21
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05 | Ted Hardie | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie |
2005-04-21
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05 | Brian Carpenter | [Ballot comment] Review comments from Joel Halpern: One minor suggestion occurred to me reading this. It would be helpful to have a paragraph or so … [Ballot comment] Review comments from Joel Halpern: One minor suggestion occurred to me reading this. It would be helpful to have a paragraph or so indicating what should be done if using a transport like DCCP which does order preservation but not loss prevention. My guess is that we should just use this protocol, because the cost of extra serial numbers and a few checks is tiny. But it would be nice if the document said so. typo: last paragraph of 4.1.: in a single datagram. hey ^ T |
2005-04-21
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05 | Brian Carpenter | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Carpenter by Brian Carpenter |
2005-04-13
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05 | Scott Hollenbeck | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Scott Hollenbeck by Scott Hollenbeck |
2005-04-12
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05 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Russ Housley |
2005-04-12
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05 | Russ Housley | Ballot has been issued by Russ Housley |
2005-04-12
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05 | Russ Housley | Created "Approve" ballot |
2005-04-12
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup::AD Followup by Russ Housley |
2005-04-12
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05 | Russ Housley | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2005-04-25 by Russ Housley |
2005-04-11
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2005-04-11
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-rescorla-dtls-04.txt |
2005-03-28
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to Waiting for Writeup::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for Writeup by Russ Housley |
2005-03-28
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05 | Russ Housley | State Change Notice email list have been change to ekr@networkresonance.com from ekr@rtfm.com |
2005-03-25
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05 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call by system |
2005-02-25
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05 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2005-02-25
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2005-02-25
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Russ Housley |
2005-02-25
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05 | Russ Housley | Last Call was requested by Russ Housley |
2005-02-25
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05 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2005-02-25
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05 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2005-02-25
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05 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2005-02-21
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2005-02-21
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-rescorla-dtls-03.txt |
2005-02-08
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Russ Housley |
2005-02-08
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05 | Russ Housley | Comments sent to the authors. A revised I-D is needed to resolve them. |
2005-01-04
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Russ Housley |
2004-12-07
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-rescorla-dtls-02.txt |
2004-12-03
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05 | Russ Housley | State Changes to Publication Requested from AD is watching by Russ Housley |
2004-11-12
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05 | Russ Housley | Shepherding AD has been changed to Russ Housley from Steve Bellovin |
2004-07-19
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-rescorla-dtls-01.txt |
2004-01-29
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05 | Steven Bellovin | State Change Notice email list have been change to ekr@rtfm.com from |
2004-01-29
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05 | Steven Bellovin | Draft Added by Steve Bellovin |
2004-01-13
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-rescorla-dtls-00.txt |