Minutes IETF101: trill
minutes-101-trill-00

London Hilton Metropole Hotel, England
        Monday, 19 March 2018. 
        17:40-18:40 Palace C Room

Chairs:    Sue Hares (Hickory Hill Consulting) 
           Jon Hudson (self)
Secretary: Donald Eastlake (Huawei)

Minutes of the Last TRILL WG Meeting
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[In the absence of both co-chairs, Donald Eastlake presided.]  [Times
given are the amount orignally scheduled, not the amount of time
actually taken.]

Alia Atlas (Juniper, TRILL RTG AD): People in the back should move
  forward since it's really hard to get choclate to them in back.
  
  5 min.  Administrativia (scribes), Agenda Bashing, Chairs
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See slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-trill-agenda-and-status-02

Donald Eastlake (Huawei, Acting Chair): Well, I guess we'll get
underway. I'm Donald Eastlake with Huawei and will be acting as Chair,
in the absence of the co-chairs, since I'm WG Secretary. People should
be aware of the Note Well ... Anyone willing to volunteer to be Jabber
scribe? [inaudible] OK, Alia has volunteered to do that.

Donald: This is planned to be the last TRILL WG meeting. No one else
has requested to present so I will be presenting on the History of
TRILL. Any agenda bashing? Anything to add or delete? I guess there
isn't much to delete. Since there is no response, I'll go over
document status.

  5 min.  Status, Chairs
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Donald: These slides are almost up to date. We have had one RFC
published since the last TRILL meeting and we have a bunch of
dcouments in the RFC Editor's queue, including one more not shown
here. Of these Centralized Replication was added to the RFC Editor's
queue a while ago and is now in AUTH48, about to pop out. ... [reviews
the other drafts now in the RFC editors queue] ... We have other
drafts ... aggregated multi-level ... group keying drafts will
probably go to SECDISPATCH. There are also the YANG drafts. These have
mostly bee handled by Sue Hares as co-Chair but she has a health
problem and is not here. I believe she plans to complete them. There
is a base TRILL YANG draft and one on OAM plus one on Performance
Measurement [PM]. There are RFC on how to do OAM and PM but these are
the YANG models. There is also a draft in the IDR WG on sending TRILL
link state through BGP.

[Attempt by Ramkumar Parameswaran to participate as a remote
speaker. Sound quality was too poor.]

Alis: Can't hear you very well. Try typing?

Donald: Send it on Jabber perhaps.

Alia: Oh, it's about the Parent Selection draft. Is you question how
it would progress? Yes. That's it.

Donald: He is the author of that draft.

Alia: What's going on is that we had a lot of work to finish up in
TRILL.  I expect to close the TRILL WG after this meeting.  If you
have enthusiasm for persuing the Parent Selection draft you have some
options.  You can bring it to the RTGWG Working Group. We can talk
about that.  Or you can talk to Martin [Martin Vigoureaux, new RTG AD]
about AD sponsoring the draft. Does that answer you question? OK,
good.

Alia: We have gotten an amazing amount of work through with
TRILL.  There are deployments.  I'm expecting to close the WG is about
an hour. There is one document, TRILL over IP, that didn't make the
cut off.  There are some issues with that one -- Martin is taking over
moving that draft forward.

Donald: Well, I could start my presentation now but there is a cake at
the back of the room. Unforuntately, those participating remotely will
not be able to partake of the cake, which just rolled into the
room. Perhaps we can take a brief recess. And I want to get a picture
of the cake before any pieces are cut out of it.  Then other people
are welcome to take some.

[The WG recessed to partake of the cake.]
[Alia also distributed some caramels.]

[Margaret Cullen noted that she (then Margaret Wasserman) was the AD
when the TRILL WG was formed, initially in the INTERNET Area, and Alia
who will close the TRILL WG is here now so we have both "bookends".]

[Donald: Well, we can just send a message to the IETF 101 Attendees
list at the end of the session saying there is still some cake in
Palace C, come and get it.]

[Session got back underway.]

 15 min.  TRILL History, Donald Eastlake
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Donald: I took this presentation I did on TRILL a few years ago and
tweaked it. It still has way too many slides but I'll go fast on the
ones people should already know. But it may be interesting to look at
them again.

See Slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-trill-trill-history-01

[Some problems with the .ppt version because animation wasn't working.
Switched to PDF version.]

Donald: ... ... ...

  5 min.  Wrap-Up, Chairs
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Donald: Any other things people want to bring up for this meeting? If
not I will adjourn this meeting, which is the last TRILL meeting.

[Applause]

Donald: There are blue sheets. I assume everyone has signed them.

[inaudible question about presentations]
Donald: There is a YouTube video of a presentation I gave a Nanog. It
was called the "Great Debate" but I was the only TRILL presenter while
several people presented on Shortest Path Bridging. So I felt kind of
outnumbered and I don't think I did a very good presentation. If you
can't find this on YouTube you should be able to find it on the Nanog
website.