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Minutes IETF109: alto
minutes-109-alto-00

Meeting Minutes Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto) WG
Date and time 2020-11-19 05:00
Title Minutes IETF109: alto
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minutes-109-alto-00
IETF 109 ALTO agenda.
30 mins - Chair slides. (This will include the status of each open WG
agenda deliverable from the chair’s point of view, including any high
priority issues that the draft authors must attend to.)

90 mins - Charter discussions. (Please see [1] for structuring the
discussion.)

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/f7y2jh4qjAtZKbyPbk2pLr7wEOU/

==== Current Documents ====

ALTO CDNi: waiting for final shepherd write up and finish; Qin (chair) posted
comments to list to CDNi authors on handling normative references; RFC
editors/chairs will take care.

Path vector, harmonize editorial revisions from two authors to address similar
comments. Authors will address the revisions right after IETF. No need for last
WGLC. Qin: Very import
 work, and will have additional comments and will send comments to authors to
 take a look, clarify the abstracts; cross post to other WGs such as PCEs,
 cross area review; routing
directorate for a quick review; after WGLC. AD: request additional reviews at
any time. Request cross area reviews during WGLC.

Performance metrics: no technical issues; chair: fix editorial issues; check
IPR issues

Unified properties: none technical issues; fix as soon as you can; good to go.
Chair/Qin: reuse; align with path vector, e.g., clarifying title/consistent
among documents, including Qin in the discussions (Qin will post to the list)

AD: chairs update data tracker

After publishing the 4 remaining documents as RFCs, the WG have a milestone of
a celebration party.

==== Recharter Discussions ====
AD: 5 proposals are listed, may select only a subset in charter. Jan: maybe
prioritize them.

Cellular network information: need laison to 3GPP, key isse is dynamicity. A
question is raised and discussions followed on why not direct client feedback,
frequency of information and kind of information.

General properties extension: Questions on making clear the use cases were
raised; path vector was suggested to be a good use case. Suggested to look at
Prometheus data model on the benfits and use cases.

New transport: Question on binary encoding support, discussion on the key
difference between old transport and new transport. Require more HTTP experts
to keep an eye on it and verify this proposal

Multidomain: The benefit of this proposal is to impove scalability of alto
protocol and have a lot of support and discussion in the past on the problem
and solution design. A comment is that a major issue of multidomain is that it
is a challenging, complex setting.

Operation automation: Access to southbound (interface, frequency) was raised
and discussed. Discussion on what exact extensions (e.g., service discovery)
will be added.

==== Wrapup ====
Cellular and general extension overlap, clearer boundary;
General + automation check overlap to make clear
A comment was made that slight overlap could be a good thing, showing synergy
among the items.

Check with other WGs; build synnergy

Moving forward: Chair (Qin) will work with Richard to get a draft to Martin.