Minutes IETF114: idr: Wed 15:00
minutes-114-idr-202207271500-00
| Meeting Minutes | Inter-Domain Routing (idr) WG | |
|---|---|---|
| Date and time | 2022-07-27 19:00 | |
| Title | Minutes IETF114: idr: Wed 15:00 | |
| State | Active | |
| Other versions | markdown | |
| Last updated | 2022-08-10 |
IDR at IETF-114
Agenda
See lower down for the notes
IDR meeting at IETF 114 (version 01)
Chairs:
Susan Hares
Jeffrey Haas
Keyur Patel
Secretary:
Jie Dong
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Materials:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/114/session/idr/
Meetecho:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/ietf114/?group=idr&short=&item=1
Collaborate on Note Takingļ¼
https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-114-idr/
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July 27, 2022
15:00-17:00 (EDT) Wednesday session III
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Agenda bashing and Chairs' Slides (10 mins)
[Chairs] -
BGP Extension for Advertising IFIT Capabilities (5 mins)
draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ifit-capabilities
[Giuseppe Fioccola] -
BGP YANG Model for Service Provider Networks (5 mins)
draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model
[Mahesh Jethanandani] -
Connecting IPv4 Islands over IPv6 Core using 4PE (5 mins)
draft-mishra-idr-v4-islands-v6-core-4pe
[Gyan Mishra] -
BGP CT/CAR discussion (30 mins)
draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes
draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car
[Susan Hares, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai, Dhananjaya Rao] -
VPN Prefix ORF for BGP-4 (5 mins)
draft-wang-idr-vpn-prefix-orf
[Gyan Mishra] -
BGP Entropy Label Capability, Version 3 (8 mins)
draft-scudder-idr-entropy-label
[John Scudder] -
BGP SR Policy Extensions for NRP (8 mins)
draft-dong-idr-sr-policy-nrp
[Jie Dong] -
BGP-LS Extensions for SR Network Resource Partition SIDs (8 mins)
draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-transport-slice
[Ran Chen] -
Advertising Redundancy Policy in BGP (8 mins)
draft-yang-idr-bgp-redundancy-policy
[Fan Yang] -
BGP-LS Advertisement of IGP DetNet Extensions (8 mins)
draft-geng-idr-bgp-ls-enhanced-detnet
[Xuesong Geng] -
SR Policy for enhanced DetNet (8 mins)
draft-zhang-sr-policy-enhanced-detnet
[Li Zhang] -
BGP Extended Community for Identifying the Target Nodes (5 mins)
draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm
[Shunwan Zhuang]
Speaker Shuffling Time/Buffer: 5 minutes
Total Time: 118 minutes
Notes
- Agenda bashing and Chairs' Slides (10 mins)
[Chairs]
- Sue: BGP Auto-Configuration draft. Should we try to adopt it again?
Should we send it to the Independent Stream? - Alvaro: "We" can't do that. It is a choice for the authors.
- Sue: Yes, but the WG does need to "let go"
- BGP Extension for Advertising IFIT Capabilities (5 mins)
draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ifit-capabilities
[Giuseppe Fioccola]
No comments
- BGP YANG Model for Service Provider Networks (5 mins)
draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model
[Mahesh Jethanandani]
No comments
- Connecting IPv4 Islands over IPv6 Core using 4PE (5 mins)
draft-mishra-idr-v4-islands-v6-core-4pe
[Gyan Mishra]
No comments
- BGP CT/CAR discussion (30 mins)
draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes
draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car
[Susan Hares, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai, Dhananjaya Rao]
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Kireeti Kompella. Isn't it important to give deployment experience
after a while? Or do we limit to interop?- Sue: SPRING is working on something in this area, but it is
still at individual status. Since that is getting input from
both sets of authors we need to wait a bit.
- Sue: SPRING is working on something in this area, but it is
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Sue: After all the talk on the mailing list, have we run out of
steam? -
Jeff: Note the "back-up items" in the slides
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Sue: Thanks for everyone moving to Forum3
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Kireeti: The interop report, is there an implication from that that
both might become standards?- Sue: If I had the answers I would already have given them. I
expect they will go to Experimental, and might go to Standards
Track thereafter. The hardest thing is scaling and error-free
code, so early customer deployment will tell us a lot. I would
like one single solution, but we might not get it. Customer
deployment will dictate and teach us a lot. - Jeff: We have examples in IETF where more than one technology
have come out in same space. Question is how to get funcitonal
interop if we have more than one solution.
- Sue: If I had the answers I would already have given them. I
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Gyan Mishra: Would interop report be added to existing drafts, or do
you want a 3rd draft?- Sue: We'll see
- Gyan: As solns are quite different, if interop is not feasible
will they both go to RFC? - Sue: As we think they are funcitonally equivalent, we hope for
interop
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Wim Henderickx: Do we have any operators that will try both.
Otherwise, may just silo- Sue: I share your fears
- Wim: Could we have an "independent team" to try to come to a
converged solution. I fear we will end up deployin both. Once an
operator has deployed one solution, they will never change to
the other.
- VPN Prefix ORF for BGP-4 (5 mins)
draft-wang-idr-vpn-prefix-orf
[Gyan Mishra]
- Sue: See the ordered list of documents for adoption on the wiki
- BGP Entropy Label Capability, Version 3 (8 mins)
draft-scudder-idr-entropy-label
[John Scudder]
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Swadesh Agrawal: Will it be a Security Concern that you may leak
transport information outside- John: Yes we need to say that in the Security Considerations
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Kireeti Kompella: Apologies for having messed up. Thanks to authors
for fixing it.
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BGP SR Policy Extensions for NRP (8 mins)
Moved to bottom of agenda -
BGP-LS Extensions for SR Network Resource Partition SIDs (8 mins)
draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-transport-slice
[Ran Chen]
- Ketan: All info comes from an LSR draft. Why do we need two drafts?
- Ran: I think it is important to have separate drafts
- Ketan: Why?
- Ran: Let's discuss offline
- BGP-LS Advertisement of IGP DetNet Extensions (8 mins)
draft-geng-idr-bgp-ls-enhanced-detnet
[Xuesong Geng]
Note: Taken out of order
No comments
- Advertising Redundancy Policy in BGP (8 mins)
draft-yang-idr-bgp-redundancy-policy
[Fan Yang]
No comments
- SR Policy for enhanced DetNet (8 mins)
draft-zhang-sr-policy-enhanced-detnet
[Li Zhang]
No comments
- BGP Extended Community for Identifying the Target Nodes (5 mins)
draft-dong-idr-node-target-ext-comm
[Shunwan Zhuang]
No comments
- BGP SR Policy Extensions for NRP (8 mins)
draft-dong-idr-sr-policy-nrp
[Jie Dong]
No comments
Meeting ends 16.50