Minutes IETF116: secdispatch: Mon 08:30
minutes-116-secdispatch-202303270830-00

Monday, March 27, 17:30; IETF 116

Logistics & Introduction - Kathleen/Rifaat (5 min)

Chairs reviewed the agenda, note well, and working group procedures for
the meeting.

Topic 1:
Encrypted E-mail with Cleartext Copies - Daniel Kahn Gillmor (15 min)

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dkg-mail-cleartext-copy-01.html

Slides:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/116/materials/slides-116-secdispatch-cleartext-copies-of-encrypted-mail-00

DKG reviewed the motivating use case and the core proposal in the draft.
Jim Fenton, Wes Hardaker, Pete Resnick, Eric Rescorla, Murray Kuchewary,
Jonathan Hoyland, Rich Salz, Daniel Huigens, and Yoav Nir commented on
the proposal. After a comment by Kathleen, Roman said that the ADs were
coordinating offline to find this a home.

Dispatch outcome: AD follow-up.

Topic 2:
Updates to X.509 Policy Validation - David Benjamin (15 min)

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-davidben-x509-policy-graph-00.html

Slides:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/116/materials/slides-116-secdispatch-updates-to-x509-policy-validation/

David presented the topic. The core proposal to revisit the policy graph
mechanism in RFC 5280 to use a directed acyclic graph. Stephen Farrell,
Sean Turner, Jonathan Hoyland, DKG, John Gray, Deb Cooley, and Mike
Ounsworth commented. Among the questions was whether there was any
appetite to use this feature, and there do appear to be some users,
despite the ugliness of the current situation.

Dispatch outcome: Referred to LAMPS

Topic 3:

Security Considerations for Tenant ID and Similar Fields - Donald
Eastlake (15 min)

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eastlake-secdispatch-tenantid-consid/

Donald Eastlake went through the security considerations, noting that a
follow-up -01 draft was due out the day following this meeting. The
authors are seeking comments and have received feedback that the
document would be useful. Paul Wouters commented that it seems more like
a routing area item than a security area item, since the security
aspects are close to done. John Scudder noted that it could go there,
but it was not the only place it could go. Donald noted that not all of
these field were related to routing. He feels that the existing security
considerations may not be as extensive as this draft offers. Warren
Kumari, from his sickbed, commented that it was potentially closer to
INT or OPS. Scott Fluhrer noted that it should be a protocol design
advice document (to avoid the relevant issues from the beginning).

Dispatch outcome: More discussion needed; comments to the authors in
advance of a later decision.

Topic 4:

Secure Routing - Meiling Chen (5 min)

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chen-secure-routing-use-cases-01.html

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chen-secure-routing-requirements-01.html

Meiling presented the topic. She noted that there is a side meeting
today at 6:30 today at room 304. Roman asked for clarification, since
this is not the topic that was in the documents. Andrew Alston noted
that if it did come back for dispatch it should go to IPGWG instead of
SECDISPATCH.

Dispatch outcome:No action, since the topic change.

Topic 5:

There was not time to consider RISVA - Yangfei Guo's draft
(https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-xu-ipsecme-risav-00.html)

Dispatch outcome: None taken, since the draft was not presented.

Chairs Summary - Kathleen/Rifaat (5 minutes)

Kathleen reviewed and confirmed the dispatch outcomes.