Minutes IETF119: sidrops: Tue 05:30
minutes-119-sidrops-202403190530-00

Notes for SIDROPS @ IETF119

Minute taker: Krishnaswamy, Chris Morrow
(Agenda for tracking current place in the meeting)
1) Agenda bashing and Chair's slides - [5 minutes]

Geoff: Requested the meeting to be in timezone that is suitable for most
of the folks around the world.
Russ: It is challenging and should use mailing alias.

2) Sriram Kotikalapudi - [5 minutes]
ASPA Verification Draft Update
doc:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification/
slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-update-on-aspa-based-as-path-verification/

No questions from participants

3) Job Snijders - [5 minutes]
A profile for Signed Prefix Lists for Use in RPKI
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-prefixlist/

No questions from participants

4) Job Snijders - [8 minutes]
RPKI Validation Reconsidered
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update/

Ties de Kock: I agree with algorithm. : RPs from different implmentation
to behave in same way.
Job: Yes

Ben: Existing policy to be updated.
Job: Ack

Geoff: This proposal is good way to take it forward

Rudiger: CAs are advised try to avoid the problem.
Job: CAs are already trying to avoid the problem and noted

5) Job Snijders - [8 minutes]
Guidance to Avoid Carrying RPKI Validation States in Transitive BGP Path
Attributes
(Draft to be published)

Jared: BMP stations connect/reconnect will create BGP updtes like soft
refresh out. Should we move this GROW WG
Job:

Ben: Agree with the problem. Implmentations does have rute refresh
updates
Job: Ack

Rudiger: Churn could be due to bad implmentations at the edge.
Job: Ack

6) Zhuotao Liu - [8 minutes]
FC-BGP Protocol Specification
doc:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-sidrops-wang-fcbgp-protocol-00.html

slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-fc-bgp-protocol-specification/

Rudiger: No new rules for path selecton is needed.
Zhuotao: Ack

7) Tom Harrison - [8 minutes]
BGP Manifest Number Handling
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-harrison-sidrops-manifest-numbers/

Rob: Manifest is modeled
Tom: Ack

Ben: As the same problem. Doesn't have the bad side effect as proposed.
Manifest approach
Tom: Ack

8) Jia Zhang - [5 minutes]
Enhancing Route Origin Validation by Aggregating Validated ROA Payloads

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-zhang-sidrops-vrp-aggregation-00.txt

Jeff Haas: More specific are usual problem to mitigate
Jia: Ack

Job: Agree with Jeff commnets. Aggegartion can bring complications.
Jia: Ack

9) Li Chen - [5 minutes]
Signed SAVNET Peering Information object
doc: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-sidrops-sispi/
slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-signed-savnet-peering-information-sispi-object/

No questions from participants

10) Di Ma - [5 minutes]
Reference Implementation of how RPSTIR2 rapidly ascertains RPKI Signed
objects to be validated during the transition of syncronization with
global repositories

Chairs suggested participants use the mailing lists for questions due to
a shortage of time.

11) Lancheng Qin - [8 minutes]
Bicone Source Address Validation
doc: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-sidrops-bicone-sav/
slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-bicone-source-address-validation-slides-119-sidrops-bicone-source-address-validation/

Chairs suggested participants use the mailing lists for questions due to
a shortage of time.

12) Lancheng Qin - [5 minutes]
Understanding ROV Deployment in the real world and why MANRS Action 1 is
not followed

Chairs suggested participants use the mailing lists for questions due to
a shortage of time.

13) Nan Geng - [5 minutes]
Selective Syncronization for RPKI to Router Protocol
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-sidrops-rtr-selective-sync/

Chairs suggested participants use the mailing lists for questions due to
a shortage of time.

14) Changwang - [5 minutes]
YANG Data Model for RPKI to Router Protocol
slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-yang-data-model-for-rpki-to-router-protocol/

Chairs suggested participants use the mailing lists for questions due to
a shortage of time.