Minutes IETF122: iotops: Thu 10:00
minutes-122-iotops-202503201000-00

IOTOPS Agenda
IETF 122 [hybrid] Bangkok

Thursday 20 March 2025
10:00 (UTC)/ 17:00 (Bangkok)
1 hour

Notes are being poorly recorded by Michael Richardson.

Meetecho:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/ietf122/?group=iotops&short=&item=1
Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-122-iotops

Chairs: Alexey Melnikov and Henk Birkholz

17:00 Administrivia
(5 min; chairs)

about A summary of security-enabling technologies for IoT devices
I-D.ietf-iotops-security-summary-03

Discussion about this document is done, but the cTLS document is not
moving and the cTLS I-D has expired.
MCR: I don't think cTLS will ever move forward.
DISCUSSION about what kind of reference the document can/should make
against cTLS.

Chairs will ping TLS WG to find out if they will really advance cTLS.
Med: focus on what the key contribution of this document is.
Henk: it seems that the reference is already non-normative
(informational),

17:05 Recharter discussion
(40 mins; chairs)

Med: dispatch+do work WG is not a new concept, OPSAWG also does that.
Med: remove the word "discovery" word from "MUD discovery solutions".
Asks to please verify with SUIT WG chairs that there is no conflict
between this charter and their work.
MCR: clarify that there are non-SUIT formats, which could still be
discovered and distributed/transported. (No change to the charter
requested, just justifying existing text.)

Added "Terminology" to the proposed charter to make sure that RFC7228bis
is within scope.

Gaetan Feige: What are the overlaps in other entities... e.g.,
CSA/MATTER?
Med: please add some new milestones for the work.
Med: there is an OPSAWG MUD document which will move to this WG... so if
there is another milestone.
MCR will move acceptable-urls to this WG, and suggest that the other MUD
documents move.

Any other comments on charter?

17:30 AOB

MCR: Had no open issues left on 7228bis. So it looks like it is ready
for WGLC. OK: review requests got out, sounds like "good enough nobody
wants to add anything in any more".
Alexey: Authors need to respond to a recent review of the document.

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