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Minutes for IESG at IETF-93

Meeting Minutes Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF
Date and time 2015-07-23 07:00
Title Minutes for IESG at IETF-93
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Last updated 2015-08-03

IETF 93 Administrative Plenary
Minutes: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

1. Welcome - Jari Arkko

2. Host presentation - Ond?ej Filip

3. Reporting

  - IETF chair - Jari Arkko

  - IAOC chair and IAD - Tobias Gondrom and Ray Pelletier

  - IETF Trust chair - Benson Schliesser

  - NomCom chair - Harald Alvestrand

4. IETF website revamp project - Joe Hildebrand

5. Postel award announcement - Kathy Brown and Olaf Kolkman

The award was presented to Dr. Robert Blokzijl.

6. IAOC open mic

Bob Hinden came to the mic and talked about the IASA 10 year anniversary and
about the IETF governing itself. He wanted to thank the community for making it
all work for the last ten years.

Brian Carpenter had a question for the IETF Trust, about the update of the Web
site revamp. Speaking for the EDU team about the materials on the IETF Web site
that are community maintained, but possibly not covered by the Trust legal
provisions. Please think about whether they are, in fact, covered. Scott
Bradner said that Jorge (IETF lawyer) thought it was properly covered, but it
was not explicitly stated, and perhaps it was time it was.

Charles Perkins asked if the IETF was having more lawsuits or subpoenas
recently or if it was about the same.  He wondered if it was something to be
concerned about.

Scott Bradner replied that it is not significantly different than before, it
(meaning subpoenas) is episodic and nothing to worry about, most requests
fulfilled by the Secretariat and the lawyers.

No further questions or comments for the IAOC, or IETF Trust.

7. IESG open mic

Dan Romascanu talked about the proposed 2.5 hour combined plenary experiment
and stated he didnÕt think it was a good idea. He stated that between the
technical plenary which ran two hours and the admin plenary which was running
close to two hours there was not one minute wasted and he doesnÕt think there
would be enough time for the open mic in a 2.5 hour plenary.

Jari Arkko indicated he agreed the open mic part of the plenaries was very
important and that for the experimental single plenary the reporting would be
available online only. He stated it may be a tight squeeze, but are expecting

Wes George noted that it could be compressed if the number of videos were cut

Andrew Sullivan replied to the comment about the cut mics in the Technical
Plenary, that no one got up to speak, and he made the decision to cut the open
mic.  He also said he sent mail to the lists and hasnÕt heard any requests for
discussion. But he wanted to make sure everyone was aware the IAB would be
accessible to the community if they had questions, concerns, or comments.

Aaron Falk stated that perhaps some of the awards and celebration items could
be combined with the Sunday Welcome Reception, in order to keep the plenaries
as working meetings.

Jari Arkko agreed that sounded like a good idea, and that the Welcome Reception
might be a good place for the Host to speak as well.

Phillip Hallam-Baker suggested having a plenary and also a non-plenary business
meeting, and to save the reporting for the non-plenary meeting. He made the
point that if the reporting of fact and figures was done in a smaller meeting,
where only people who were interested in that specific information heÕd be more
likely to get up and discuss where as he didnÕt feel like a room with a
thousand people in it was conducive to that.

Jari Arkko noted that there have been IAOC sessions in the past that did just

Barry Leiba replied that the reporting slides had been cut down a lot, as had
much of the reporting of facts and figures.  He also noted that if a
non-plenary meeting were held and it conflicted with regular working group
meetings than people may miss them even if they were interested because the
working group was doing real work.

Robert Sparks comment on the combination of RAI and APP to ART. He noted the
uptick in actual participation in cross-area participation, not just lurkers.
He suggested the rest of the IESG think about it as a model for other ways
things could be rolled together and reshaped. He mentioned thinking of the area
as having smaller areas within it was a disservice to the work that was done to
combine them, and he urged the community to think about the area as itself, as

Alissa Copper, Spencer Dawkins, and Barry Leiba all noted that it was thanks to
the prepatory work of the IESG and the work of the tools team and others that
the transition went so smoothly.

Jari Arkko ended the IETF 93 Administrative Plenary after there were no more

Other Resources:

RFC Editor Report

IANA Report

NOC Report

IETF 94 - Akira Kato