Minutes for LISP at IETF-95
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Meeting Minutes
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   CHAIR(s):
    Joel Halpern
    Luigi Iannone

SECRETARY:
    Wassim Haddad
    Damien Saucez

Session 1/1 (120 Minutes)
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Thursday, April 7, 2016
1730-1930, Afternoon Session III, 120 Minutes
Room Atlantico B

- Administration
   Halpern/Iannone
   - Blue Sheets
   - Agenda Bashing
   - Status reports for WG drafts

o WG Documents Update

- LCAF Draft Update - draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-12
    D. Farinacci

        • Dino Farinacci asks if the document is ready.
        • Fabio Maino says the document is ready.
        • Chair asking the audience: there is no objection.

- LISP-crypto - draft-ietf-lisp-crypto-03
    D. Farinacci

        • new changes reflect discussion with crypto specialist and choice for
        high performance. • implementation show that in software it still
        offers good performances. • Dino Farinacci asks for other
        implementations to test. • Chair asking the audience if document is
        ready: no objection.

- LISP SF Multicast - draft-ietf-lisp-signal-free-multicast-00
    D. Farinacci
        • Robert Raszuk proposes to use LISP to implement multicast and let
        unicast as-is

o Non WG Items

- Open Overlay Router
    Fabio Maino (on behalf of A. Cabellos (excused))

        • Open Overlay Router is a re-focus of the LISPmob project from
        mobility to overlay router. • Joel Halpern asks if it is an alternative
        or a complement to large open source projects. • Fabio Maino explains
        that there is current effort to integrate fd.io and Open Overlay Router.

- ComCast IPv6 SR
    J. Brzozowski
        • presentation cancelled (excused)

- GPE-VPN - draft-maino-gpe-vpn-00.txt
    F. Maino

        • Discussion from the audience to clarity the next protocol field.
        • Joel Halpern reminds that the number of services will remain modest.

- Unified L2 and L3 overlays using the LISP control plane
    V. Moreno
        • Padma Pillay-Esnault: how long is a negative mapping kept? How fast
        to detect? • Victor Moreno: we keep until a timeout or SMR trigger •
        Padma Pillay-Esnault: might be an issue when mobility. • Dino
        Farinacci: when a device move, it does not leave it so when it
        re-attachs the network it will trigger a change. If the node is gone,
        then it is timeout. • Victor Moreno asks the group to review the draft
        and if the document is a good reference for the group. • Chairs: it is
        to early to talk about adoption • Dino Farinacci: it is important to
        keep in mind that everything moves (containers, VMs, … ). The big
        difference with lisp mn is that RLOCs and EIDs are not collocated in
        this L2/L3 overlay

- IANA Registry for LISP Packet Type Allocations -
draft-boucadair-lisp-type-iana-00
    L. Iannone (on behalf of M. Boucadair)
        • Fabio Maino: having an experimental type makes sense.
        • Dino Farinacci proposes to encode the type in JSON.

- LISP Mapping Service Discovery at Large -
draft-boucadair-lisp-idr-ms-discovery-01
    S. Secci   (on behalf of M. Boucadair)
        • Dino Farinacci: it is not a good idea to put overlay information in
        the underlay. • Dino Farinacci: to avoid import/export it would be
        better to use something like DDT and use instance-id to distinguish the
        different tenants. • Stefano Secci: the objective is to “automatically”
        connect independent mapping systems. • Robert Raszuk says that the
        problem is already solved with route servers. • Padma Pillay-Esnault
        says that using extended communities is dangerous as it should be per
        prefix and there is a risk of aggregation.