Minutes for OPSAWG at IETF-95
minutes-95-opsawg-9

[ Thanks to Barbara Stark for taking minutes - Chairs ]

opsawg Minutes; Wednesday, April 6, 2016, 1400-1600

Chairs:
Warren Kumari
Scott Bradner
Tianran Zhou
Minutes: Barbara Stark
Jabber: Joel Jaeggli

Scott was presented with shirt and farewell speech by ADs, standing ovation,
and a rousing song in Dutch by Bert Wijnen.

Agenda posted at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/agenda/opsawg/
Meeting materials posted at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/materials.html/

Warren went through Administrivia slides 1-5 
(https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-opsawg-4.pdf).

Eliot Lear presented slides on Manufacturer Usage Descriptions (MUD)
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-opsawg-2.pdf
Eliot presented all slides without interruption.
Dan Romascanu: It is important to clarify relationship with vendors.
Eliot: Agree. For example, need to determine who signs certificates.
Andy Bierman: Likes draft. IoT security needs to be figured out.
Benoit Claise: Need to figure out home for this work.
Additional support was expressed.

Dan Romascanu presented on Automatic attachment of end stations and network
devices Dataplane Probing
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-opsawg-0.pdf Dan presented
all slides without substantive interruption. Eliot: Interesting work. Want to
work with Dan on this and look forward to doing that. Shahram Davari: Why here
and not IETF? What new protocol is needed? Dan: Can be applicable to other
types of tunnels. Not asking for new protocol. Describing solution to an
operational problem. Shahram: There seems to be a mix of requirements,
discussion, other in doc. Dan: Yes. It needs to be cleaned up. Plan to split
documents in separate I-Ds. Diego Lopez expressed interest and commented.

Petr Lapukhov presented on Dataplane probing
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-opsawg-1.pdf
Petr presented all slides without interruption.
Linda Dunbar: Do you use Data Plane or a separate management channel?
Petr: It's internal to the device.
Warren Kumari: Does it sound like silicon vendors might be willing to do this?
Petr: Talking to some and they might be willing.
Shahram: I like this.

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Ops Area (see slides 8-9 of the agenda)
Ops Area ADs:
    Benoit Claise
    Joel Jaeggli

Mehmet Ersue presented on "NFV Trends and OPS work?", slides 1-6
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-opsawg-5.pdf
Benoit presented slides 7-11, and then asked "What should Ops Area do?"
Linda: There are many parts. How do you ensure policy consistency between
multiple instances? How do you monitor if an instance is under attack? Resource
management. Will provide next time some strawman thinking to help put together
a more solid proposal. Benoit: Need to identify gaps. Dan: The output should be
an NFV taxonomy document (as suggested on slide 11). We have avoided defining
"service" for a long time. We need to define "service". Benoit: We definitely
need to determine IETF focus. There is work on SLAs. Hui Deng: We need to unify
parts to deploy end-to-end service. Diego Lopez: 3 aspect we must solve.
Plaftorm / mobility;  ; Mehmet: 2 points -- the first concerned assurance ; the
second is that the taxonomy work is important and many orgs are craving such a
product Ram Krishnan: Tons of information is available in open source around
Openstack. Maybe there is something to bring in. Chongfeng Xie: It may also be
useful to provide operational experiences.

Benoit: Who wants to participate in creating the taxonomy? Who wants to
participate in the gap analysis? Several hands were raised for each question.
Anyone who is interested should contact Benoit.

Tianran Zhou presented on Service Component Composition
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-opsawg-3.pdf

Open Mic:
Lucy Lynch: Thank you to Scott. You will be missed.