Minutes for PIM at IETF-95
minutes-95-pim-1

Minutes from pim at IETF 95

These are combined jabber log and minutes.

10:58:06 AM joel jaeggli: welcome to the pim working group
10:59:00 AM joel jaeggli: stig - speaking
10:59:26 AM joel jaeggli: agenda
11:02:44 AM joel jaeggli: first  presentation - source discovery bsr
Sumit Mukhopadhyay
[_943578608@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the
room. (11:05:25 AM)
11:08:24 AM joel jaeggli: dino - did you consider advertising specific
sources to reduce the amount of state e.g. subnet,g
11:09:22 AM joel jaeggli: stig - how many people have read this draft?
11:09:30 AM joel jaeggli: ok great   few
Anish Peter [_1510346300@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (11:09:41 AM)
11:10:08 AM joel jaeggli: dino - do it as a seperate protocol, modify
the igp to advertise subnets as multicast capable
11:11:13 AM joel jaeggli: dino - you do have a mapping database you can
use so that they don't have to be flooded
Anish Peter left the room. (11:15:49 AM)
11:16:02 AM joel jaeggli: alvaro -
11:16:11 AM joel jaeggli: stig - we'll take it to the list
11:16:26 AM joel jaeggli: how many thing this is ready for last call?
11:17:23 AM joel jaeggli: next presentation - pim yang model
Anish Peter [_1510346300@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (11:18:00 AM)
11:28:28 AM joel jaeggli: stig - thanks for work on this
11:28:49 AM joel jaeggli: there are a handfull of vendors on the design
team
11:29:13 AM joel jaeggli: it might be that you implementation doesn't
work with this  so it's good to take a look
11:29:21 AM joel jaeggli: have you tried to get review of this
11:30:03 AM joel jaeggli: Xufeng Liu - yeah we'll do that


11:30:20 AM joel jaeggli: next presentation
11:30:21 AM joel jaeggli: draft-guo-pim-igmp-mld-yang-01


11:30:26 AM joel jaeggli: Feng Guo


Payal Goyal [_513059560@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (11:33:39 AM)
11:37:57 AM joel jaeggli: stig - have you read this? two people
11:38:02 AM joel jaeggli: plus the authros
11:38:25 AM joel jaeggli: people in the dt are probably in favor
11:38:49 AM joel jaeggli: we should consider adoption as this is
something we need.
11:38:57 AM joel jaeggli: confirming on mailing list
11:39:37 AM joel jaeggli: next preso
11:39:38 AM joel jaeggli: draft-anggawijaya-pim-resilient-gmp


11:39:51 AM joel jaeggli: Hermin Anggawijaya


Payal Goyal left the room. (11:42:50 AM)
Payal Goyal [_513059560@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (11:43:20 AM)
cjbc left the room. (11:44:18 AM)
11:48:42 AM joel jaeggli: stig - we don't really need to update - if
this is published it's no longer unown essages
11:49:48 AM Anish Peter: As the snooping devices are transit devices
they may not still know about these ack meessages and may treat it as
unknown
11:50:26 AM joel jaeggli: stig - how many people have read this draft?
11:51:21 AM joel jaeggli: stig - we have a charter item for mld to work
better on wifi links
Yi Zhang [850016260@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered
the room. (11:51:58 AM)
11:52:16 AM joel jaeggli: lets try get some discussion on the mailing list
11:52:28 AM joel jaeggli: next preso
11:52:37 AM joel jaeggli:       draft-allan-spring-mpls-multicast-framework-00


11:52:42 AM joel jaeggli: david allan
evyncke left the room. (11:53:26 AM)
Payal Goyal left the room. (11:56:37 AM)
Payal Goyal [_513059560@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (11:59:24 AM)
Christian Hopps left the room. (12:00:56 PM)
12:07:22 PM joel jaeggli: lucy yang - some new idea good - igp
extensions have been proposed before
Sumit Mukhopadhyay left the room. (12:07:26 PM)
12:07:47 PM joel jaeggli: david - we have exmplars in igp
12:08:29 PM joel jaeggli: stig - was going to talk about that, also in
bier w.g.. generic igp extension that could work would be good
12:09:22 PM joel jaeggli: stig - who has read the draft
12:09:26 PM joel jaeggli: maybe 5
12:09:34 PM joel jaeggli: how many thing this is interesting work?
12:10:02 PM joel jaeggli: do in pim or spring?
12:10:11 PM joel jaeggli: dino - kinda uses a little of everything right
12:10:50 PM joel jaeggli: shepherd - that is a gap we often see
12:11:53 PM joel jaeggli: stig - please read the draft
12:11:58 PM joel jaeggli: one last presentation
12:12:09 PM joel jaeggli: draft-vyncke-pim-mld-security-01


12:12:20 PM joel jaeggli: Enno rey talking
Nigel Bragg left the room. (12:14:37 PM)
Meetecho left the room. (12:19:53 PM)
12:21:21 PM Payal Goyal: slides content are not visible properly ?
12:22:29 PM joel jaeggli: last slide deck is here
12:22:30 PM joel jaeggli:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/session/pim/
Rahul Aggarwal [1228535541@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (12:22:32 PM)
12:22:46 PM joel jaeggli:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-95-pim-1/1/
12:23:05 PM Payal Goyal: Okay.. Thanks.. (Y)
12:23:20 PM joel jaeggli: stig - adminsitrative point of view advice to
implementors, a lot we can do there
Rahul Aggarwal left the room. (12:23:52 PM)
12:24:14 PM joel jaeggli: dificult to get hosts upgraded
12:24:22 PM Anish Peter: hummmmm
12:24:37 PM joel jaeggli: noted
Rahul Aggarwal [_409054785@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite]
entered the room. (12:24:46 PM)
12:25:42 PM joel jaeggli: stig - small things we can do to improve
security without breaking anything
12:25:52 PM joel jaeggli: mld-guard might be useful
12:26:30 PM joel jaeggli: we're done