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Minutes IETF98: ntp
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Meeting Minutes Network Time Protocols (ntp) WG
Date and time 2017-03-27 18:00
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minutes-98-ntp-00
IETF 98 Chicago NTP/TICTOC Meeting - Monday, March 27, 2017 13:00 -15:00

Note taker:    Rob Nagy
Jabber scribe:

Karen opens the meeting
NTPWG and TICTOC shall be merged. Hopefully this is the last joint meeting.

NTP agenda: no bashing.
TICTOC agenda: no bashing

draft-haberman-ntpwg-mode-6-cmds
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- Call for adoption:
- Brian has two questions regarding mode 6 (see presentation). No feedback from
the group. Harlan intends to responds via email.

draft-ietf-ntp-bcp
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- Shall go to WGLC which will terminate at 17th April before the next NTPWG
interim meeting.

draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp
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Network Time Security (NTS)

Dieter presents changes from version 07 to 08.
- 08-version dropped the piggybacking of DTLS key exchange over NTP packets in
order to reduces the number of possible options and keeping things as simple as
possible.
  Harlan want this to be as an option in the draft.
  Daniel clarified that nothing would hinder a implementation to implement this
  feature. Harlan points out that the draft should clarify how this should be
  done Karen clarifies that the must be a use case for this option, to be
  processed by the IESG. If a business may be provided this option can be
  drafted afterwards.

- Next update shall be provided before the next interim meeting. The draft
should the go to WGLC.

- The generic draft shall be made consistent with the
draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp.

draf-ietf-ntp-mac
=================
-There have been no major changes, since the last meeting. WGLC will be
scheduled if no further comments will be submitted. - Karen accidently put the
preceding draft in the WG adaption call. This will be resolved soon. - The AD
will organize the review of the Security Area

draft-dfranke-ntp-data-minimization
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- Harlan commenting that the draft is "over-reaching". He complains over some
MUST in the draft. Adoption? - Harlan opt against adoption in the current form
- AD points out that after WG adoption the content of the draft is controlled
by the member of the working group - Harlan agrees adoption

draft-ietf-ntp-refid-updates
============================
Karen addressed its status. The draft is going to WGLC.

draft-wu-ntp-ntp-cfg
====================
Dhruv presented updates to the previous version. The current model enhances
- pre-shared key authentication
- and includes autokey.
- Support for different interfaces
- Support for different ports

Next steps:
- WG adoption or still more review?
- Danny suggest to drop autokey because its deprecated.
- Harlan suggest to add NTS to the model.
- Harlan ask if there is already an implementation?
- Dhruv points out that there is a proprietary implementation. Intension is
that IETF drive an open version. - Yakoov ask if this is going to replace ntpq?
The answer is no.

Decision: Call for adoption in the mailing list

AOB
===

Extension Field drafts:
Karen ask if these can be combined. These drafts shall be considered in the
next interim meeting in April

TICTOC
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- Karen presented the working group status (see slides)
- There is a new experimental RFC 8039 (Multipath Time Synchronization)
- Issues with the MIB draft have been resolved (thanks to the AD) and is now in
the RFC Ed queue - Yakoov: The draft 1588overmpls has been dropped because of
the work that has been done in the MPLS working group

draft-ietf-tictoc-1588v2-yang
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Updates to the YANG data model for IEEE 1588
Updates includes
- expanded instances
- new fields to simplify structure
Draft is very stable but some minor additions necessary. WGLC is to be
coordinated with IEEE P1588 working group.

Further Agenda for Joint NTP/TICTOC
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- Virtual interim Kate April/May
- Combine NTP and TICTOC. AD will assist to re-charter the wg.