Minutes IETF99: cdni
minutes-99-cdni-01

CDNI Working Group Minutes
IETF-99, Prague, Czech Republic
- Chaired by Kevin Ma (remote) and Phil Sorber (on behalf of Francois Le
Faucheur) - Meeting notes captured by Magnus Westerlund and Kevin J. Ma, edited
by Kevin J. Ma - Audio Recording at:
https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf99/ietf99-berlin_brussels-20170717-1740.mp3 -
Slides at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials.html

Chair slides (Kevin J. Ma)
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https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/slides/slides-99-cdni-chair-slides-01.pdf

- A large number of RFCs published (RFC7937, RFC7975, RFC8006, RFC8007,
RFC8008) since last meeting (Berlin). - One milestone open, URI signing. -
Three new Errata filed on Control Interface Triggers based on external review
by the Streaming Video Alliance. - Beyond WG milestones: Three topics being
discussed.  HTTPS delegation being discussed today.

URI Signing (Phil Sorber)
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https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/slides/slides-99-cdni-draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-01.pdf

- 2 revs since last meeting (Berlin)
- Move to JWT complete. Merge of HAS support complete.
- Plan to merge 2 Pull Requests. After that ready for WGLC. Four thumbs up.
- Kevin: agreeing on going forward; will start shepherd review in parallel.

HTTPS delegation (Frederic Fieau)
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https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/slides/slides-99-cdni-draft-fieau-cdni-interfaces-https-delegation-02.pdf

- Update adding ACME * proposal, looking at CDNI Metadata for booth-strap phase.
- Next step: add sub-cert, oob, and possibly lurk support and discuss triggers.
- Sanjay Mishra: slide 2, typo START -> STAR.
- Kevin: sent some comments on the metadata objects to the list. Question,
should sub-certs be combined with ACME, or is it own object. - Emile Stephane:
have a registry and different metadata sets for the different methods in the
same draft for now. - Sanjay: will add sub-cert details, based on current
sub-cert draft

- Asking for adoption. Kevin, saying a bit premature. Want to see how next
draft develops and how it relates to sub-certs and STAR progresses and their
needs. Will start talking to AD about what is needed for re0charter.

Any Other Business
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 Lijuan (Rachel) Chen, Huawei presenting Ideas on Access network CDNs
 slides??
 - New Business Model for CDN SaaS (CDN Service Provider) vs [PaaS, IaaS]
 (Network Operator)

 - Sanjay: what are looking for CDNI WG to do?
   Rachel: Current CDNI interconnect between CDN service provider interconnect
   is not sufficient. Discuss how one can enlarge the marketspace/capabilities.
   New direction for CDNs and CDNI.

 - Emile: does your solution reuse existing CDNI interfaces?
   Rachel: Will consider existing interfaces, but first consider a business
   model innovation, then capabilities.

 - Michael Kreipl(?): are you trying to solve a business model problem with a
 technical solution?
   Rachel: Both. The story, needs to make sense. Then we can discuss solution.

 - Kevin: business models are not really our scope. If there are new technical
 requirements on CDNI then it can make sense. Please write a draft that
 explains how CDNI relates to the idea, and what gaps that exist. CDNI
 interfaces can be used for intra-CDN, but it is definitely out-of-scope of the
 charter and would require re-chartering.
   Rachel: The idea does not break/stray from CDNI, but looks for deeper
   integration.

 - Yue (Michael) Yin: we can submit a draft with use cases and problem
 statement. CDNI should focus on new technical questions, to see if we can
 expand the existing interfaces.

Session Closed at 18:23