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Date and time 2003-01-14 12:00
Title Minutes interim-2003-iab-01 2003-01-14
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Minutes
IAB Meeting — Teleconference


14 January 2003, 3:00pm – 5:00pm EST


ATTENDING

Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair

Harald Alvestrand –IETF/IESG Chair

Joyce Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor

Mike St. Johns

Charlie Kaufmann

Geoff Huston

Rob Austein

Ted Hardie

Sally Floyd

James Kempf

Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC

Eric Rescorla

REGRETS

Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair

Eric Nordmark — Liaison from the IESG

Ran Atkinson

Fred Baker

NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING

Tuesday, 10 February, 2003.


AGENDA

AGENDA
1. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes
2. Review of Action Items
3. Review of Documents
4. Liaison Reports and Organization Updates

 IESG

 RFC Editor

 IRTF

 ISOC

 ITU-T

 W3C

 ICANN

    + should our Board liaison be (ex officio) IAB?
    + do we make a statement re. the proposed ENUM “workshop”?
 RSSAC

 IETF Nominations Committee

 ISO


    + Category A/Category C liaison question
  1. Interfacing with ISOC, providing technical support to their work.
    • Identifying research topics for their funding efforts
    • FCC Seeks Comments on Applying E911 to VoIP
  2. IAB Concerns about DNS: IAB response to ICANN’s request for input on VGRS com/net proposal
  3. All other business for full IAB
  4. Consideration of Robert Elz’ appeal against IESG decision to approve draft-ietf-ipngwg-addr-arch-v3-11.txt

NOTES

0. Rollcall, Agenda Bash and Previous Minutes

The agenda was amended to include identifying an IAB member to sit in on the IESG conference call during Rob Austein’s vacation.

The minutes of the December 10, 2002 meeting were approved as posted to the mailing list.

1. Review of Action Items

(below)

2. Review of Documents

(below)

3. Liaison Reports

IESG

The IAB was asked to read and comment on the draft charter for the IESG and on the draft IESG procedures document.

RFC Editor

Joyce noted that an issue with RSVP number assignment had been raised with the IESG.

IRTF

No Report.

ISOC

Lynn reported that the Public Interest Registry launched in January. She also noted that ISOC is now at break even in its finances; a full report will be made available when ISOC closes its books for 2002.

ITU-T

ITU liaison statements on geographic distribution enum.arpa have been received. IETF/ITU subgroup is working on a response.

W3C

No Report.

ICANN

The IAB considered whether the BoT member appointed by the IETF should be a member of the IAB, either ex officio or by limiting the selection to those serving on the IAB. The IAB decided that this role need not be ex officio part of the IAB nor should the selection be limited to members of the IAB. Further discussion of the criteria will be made public during the call for nominations. This situation will be reviewed after one year.

The IAB also noted that ICANN is proposing an ENUM workshop. Some concerns were expressed with the interaction of this process with those already in place in the IETF and in the process documents agreed to be the IAB and ITU. Leslie will draft a statement expressing the sense of the meeting for the review of the IAB and eventual transmission to ICANN.

RSSAC

RSSAC has scheduled a meeting for the Sunday prior to the next IETF. In order to ensure that the IAB liaison can attend, the IAB will schedule its meeting for Tuesday evening.

IETF Nominations Committee

The NomCom chair currently plans to release all request for approval together, at or near the end of January.

ISO

The IAB reaffirmed that it would accept the category A liaison originally proposed by ISO and that a category C liaison would not match the IAB’s sense of the needs of the ISO/IETF relationship.

4.Interfacing with ISOC

  1. Research topics and funding efforts by ISOC.
    This agenda item was discussed during the IAB Action agenda topic; see below.
  2. Comments by ISOC on the FCC request for input on the application of E911 to VoIP.

The FCC has asked for _ex parte_ comments on the application. The IAB agreed that any statement should come from ISOC, not the IAB, but that IAB members might provide technical input if the area fell within their technical expertise. Lynn will provide information on when the comments are due.

5.IAB Concerns about DNS: IAB response to ICANN’s request for input on the system deployed by VeriSign for .com and .net.

The IAB considered draft text for a response to ICANN and agreed review by the IESG would be valuable before it was sent to ICANN. The IAB also agreed that a second, more general document on the the topic of IDN deployment strategies would be useful. The structure of this document depends to some extent on whether the RFCs describing IDNA are available. These are now awaiting IANA action. Harald will talk to the relevant ADs about whether this action and these documents should be fast-tracked in the RFC publication process.

6.Sally Floyd will attend the IESG meeting during Rob Austein’s vacation.

7.Appeal

After the IETF Chair and Liaisons left the meeting, the topic of the appeal against the decision to approve draft-ietf-ipngwg-addr-arch-v3-11.txt was discussed. A decision was not reached during this discussion, and further discussion was moved to the appeal-specific mailing list. One or more additional teleconference may also be scheduled to accommodate this discussion.


Actions and Documents

Actions+ IAB use of document tracker

Eric Rescorla

 [Jan-03]

*new*

Status:Requirements posted

    * Eric has posted requirements for an IAB document tracker. They are not similar to the IESG’s current document tracker. In general, the IAB’s document management needs are closer to those of a working group editing function.
    * A balloting system maybe required in addition or instead, in order to facilitate the determination of consensus among the IAB members. Eric will produce a proposal for such a system.
  • RIR Liaison
    Leslie Daigle, Harald Alvestrand

    [Jan 03]

    new

    Status: pending discussion

    * Leslie and Harald will meet with the RIR CEOs at the next RIPE meeting. This will provide a high-level interaction among the parties, but further discussion with the RIRs on how to achieve technical coordination is needed. In particular, more insight into how policy making among RIR constituents can incorporate technical coordination is needed.
    
    • IAB Network Management Workshop
      Ran Atkinson, Juergen Shoenwalder

    [Feb-02]

    current

    Status: Internet draft not yet in final state.
    + RFC Submission review
    Geoff Huston

    [May-02]

    current

    Status:

    * Discussion deferred.
    
    • ICANN Evolution and Reform Followup
      Geoff Huston

    [Jul-02]

    closed

    Status: PSO closed; TLG advisors named.
    + ICANN Board Liaison
    Leslie Daigle

    [Nov-02]

    current

    Status: Nominations being received.
    + IAB Research Agenda
    Sally Floyd, Vern Paxson, Ran Atkinson, Mike St Johns, Jon Crowcroft

    [Jul-02]

    current

    Status:

    * The document under development covers the need for research in general and identifies specific areas of research. The drafting group feels that an additional document focusing on operational concerns is needed to support ISOC’s effort to guide governments seeking advice on funding efforts. One or both documents needs to discuss the concerns with how funded research should inter-relate with IETF work. In particular, including funding for individual researchers to attend the IETF, but recognizing that the IETF itself is not a candidate for direct funding. The new, operational document will have Geoff, Rob, and James as responsible parties for the IAB; other area experts may be recruited as needed.
    
    • IAB IPV6 Deployment Workshop
      James Kempf reporting

    [Jul-02]

    current

    Status:

    * A venue has been secured and date set
    * A web page describing the workshop in English and Japanese is under development
    * Full agenda not yet done; tied to available participants. This list is still evolving. James will produce a draft agenda based on input from Rob, Ran and others.
    
    • SC22 Liaison
      Leslie Daigle

    [Oct-02]

    current

    Status:

    * Draft a a response to SC22 noting that the IAB has already agreed to the original offer of a category A liaison to SC22.
    

Documents

  • IAB Considerations

draft-iab-considerations-03.txt
Sally Floyd

 [Dec-01]

*closed*

 Status: Published as RFC 3426
  • Security considerations, including common security attacks

draft-iab-sec-cons-02.txt
Eric Rescorla

 [May-01]

*current*

Status: Editing

    1. (current) New draft issued in January
    2. (next) Send to IESG for publication
    * This version addresses concerns raised by Ned Freed
  • Security Mechanisms for the Internet

draft-iab-secmech-01.txt
Charlie Kaufman, Steve Bellovin

 [May-01]

*current*

 Status: IAB Review

    1. (current) Charlie has incorporated all received comments
    2. (next) A -02 version will be reviewed by IAB, then sent for IETF Call for Input by Leslie
  • A survey of Authentication Mechanisms

draft-rescorla-auth-mech-00.txt
Eric Rescorla

 [Apr-02]

*current*

 Status: Editing

    1. (current)  Incorporate comments
  • Referential Integrity
    Fred Baker, Patrik Faltstrom

    [Jul-02]

    current

    Status: Drafting

    1. (current) draft a document that describes the issues associated with referential integrity
    
    • Notifications
      Ted Hardie, James Kempf

    [Nov-02]

    current

    Status: Drafting

    1. (current) draft a document that describes the issues associated with notifications
    
    • IRIs
      Ted Hardie

    [Nov-02]

    current

    Status: Drafting

    1. (current) continuing discussion with Martin Duerst
    
    • Service Identifiers
      Mike St. Johns, Geoff Huston

    [Nov-02]

    current

    Status: Incorporating comments

    1. (current)  Comments received on initial draft. Some indicate that the current draft has eliminated too much of the context that motivated it. Some context will be restored in the next draft. Mike will provide the next draft, with Geoff’s input.
    
    • IETF IANA

draft-iab-iana-01.txt
Geoff Huston

 [Nov-02]

*current*

 Status: incorporating comments

    1. (current) comments received from IANA and ICANN indicate some confusion about why the MoU is not called out. This document describes the function of which the MoU is an instantiation; it thus cannot make a normative reference to the MoU. A future draft will make explicit the relationship between this document and the MoU.
  • Internet Architecture and End-to-End
    James Kempf, Rob Austein

    [Jul-02]

    current

    Status: Drafting

    1. (current) James has published a draft and sent copies to Brian Carpenter, John Wroclawski, and the IESG. An IAB internal last call will be needed after feedback incorporated.
    

These minutes were prepared byTed Hardie; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/IABmins/

The IAB Web page is at http://www.iab.org