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Date and time 2003-07-17 12:00
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minutes-interim-2003-iab-09-20030717-00

Minutes
IAB Meetings at IETF 57


13 – 17 July 2003, Vienna, Austria


ATTENDING

Leslie Daigle — IAB Chair

Bernard Aboba

Harald Alvestrand — IETF/IESG Chair

Rob Austein

Patrik Fältström

Sally Floyd

Jun-ichiro Itojun Hagino

Mark Handley

Geoff Huston

Charlie Kaufman

James Kempf

Eric Rescorla

Mike St. Johns

Bert Wijnen — Liaison from the IESG

Lynn St. Amour — Liaison from ISOC

Vern Paxson — IRTF Chair

Joyce Reynolds — Liaison from the RFC Editor

APOLOGIES

NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING

Tuesday, 12 August 2003.


AGENDA

  1. Confirmation of IESG Nomination
  2. IAB Open Meeting on Address Architectures
  3. IAB Mailing List
  4. Response to ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee
  5. Review of “Liaison Statement” Internet Draft
  6. Reply to Carsten Scheifner (RIPE-NCC) re. ENUM
  7. Instructions to IANA re. 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa zone delegation
  8. IRTF Report
  9. Technical Discussion: Routing
  10. IAB Open Plenary

NOTES

1. Confirmation of IESG Nomination

The voting members, with the exception of the Chair of the IETF, met to consider confirmation of the nominated candidate for the vacant position of Internet Area Director. The IAB confirmed the nomination of Margaret Wasserman to this position.

The IAB discussed their requirements for information to be provided by all future Nominating Committees when requesting confirmation of a nominated individual. The requested material to be provided to the IAB is to include:

  • Resume or CV of the candidate
  • Summary of the IETF feedback on the candidate
  • Summary of the IETF community feedback on the state of the Area and it’s current needs
  • The Nomcom’s conclusions of the qualifications required for the position
  • Nomcom’s view of the qualifications of the candidate to undertake the role associated with the position
  • Candidate’s statement to the Nomcom on the position, conveyed to the IAB with the candidate’s knowledge and assent.

A notice to this effect is to be published on the IAB’s Web site.

2. IAB Open Meeting on Address Architectures

The IAB Open Meeting on Address Architectures was held at IETF57 on Monday 14th July, 3:30 – 5:30 pm. The presentations and a note of the discussion are held in the IAB Document archive, and will also be published as part of the proceedings of the IETF meeting.

In reviewing the Open Meeting material the IAB noted that there is considerable overlap with previous activity undertaken within the Name Space Research Group (NSRG), although the level of documentation of outcomes from this group was somewhat low. The space of consideration encompasses, among other topics, devices with multiple addresses per interface, issues of dynamic renumbering or dynamic switching of ‘self’ source addresses, survivability of end-to-end sessions across lower level changes, various forms of auto-configuration and scoped identities. The observation was made that the exercise has been successful in identifying that there is a substantive topic here, rather than a selection of pieces of various puzzles.

The IAB will write up the material presented at the Open Meeting, together with initial IAB considerations on this topic, and host a moderated forum for further discussion on the role of addresses in the IP architecture.

3. IAB Mailing List

Mark Handley, Eric Rescorla and Charlie Kaufman will continue as IAB mailing list moderators. Consideration will be given to automation of the moderation task. The approach is intended to include virus detection and consideration of challenge-response form of mail filtering.

4. Response to ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee

A response to the ICANN SECSAC will be drafted, noting that there is a difference in perspective between observations on operational deployment and observations on the level of conformance to IETF Standards.

5. Review of Liaison Statement Internet Draft

IAB review of this internet draft (draft-baker-liaisons-00.txt) is to be included on the agenda of the next IAB meeting.

6. Reply to Carsten Scheifner (RIPE-NCC) re. ENUM

The IAB considered a proposed change to the e164.arpa documentation concerning a restatement of the administrative and technical contact roles.

7. Instructions to IANA re. 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa zone delegation

The IAB determined that it would issue an instruction to the IANA to delegate the reverse address zone for IPv6 6to4 address space (2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa) to an entity nominated by the RIR’s to operate this reverse zone. The RIR’s are to be advised that Patrik Fältström and Rob Austein should be consulted over the nature of implementation of this DNS zone as IAB-nominated technical advisors.

8. IRTF Report

Vern Paxson reported to the IAB on the state of the IRTF. The goals of the IRTF were stated as being a mechanism for the transfer of technology into the IETF, and to ‘nucleate’ a community where researchers can come together productively. It is not envisaged that every RG achieve tangible results in both areas, but this is an overall intended outcome of the activity. It was also noted that the standardization activity is an attempt to create elements of convergence in technology, while research activities have no particular necessity to converge on particular outcomes or direction, so that there remains a visible and necessary distinction between the IETF and the IRTF activity domains. The discussion also canvassed views on Research Groups and ‘lighter touch’ organizational structures, and the role and placement of IRTF scheduled slots within the IETF agenda. The possibility of ISOC support for activities such as IRTF workshops was also discussed.

9. Technical Discussion: Routing

The IAB discussed the state of research and development in the area of inter-domain routing protocols, and noted that the research focus has shifted back into longer term consideration of requirements and approaches.

10. IAB Open Plenary

Presentations


IAB ACTIONS and DOCUMENTS

Actions

  • IETF Protocol Parameter Registration
    Leslie Daigle, Harald Alvestrand

[Feb-03]

current

Status: Followup actions after meeting with US DoC

+ A registry selection criteria and conditions document is to be drafted
  • DNS and IDN Document
    Rob Austein, Patrik Faltstrom, Geoff Huston

[Feb-03]

current

Status: Coordinate IETF document between Ads and WGs

+ Document on Internet Identity realms being drafted. A second document to answer the specific issues about IDN is needed.
  • IAB input to Security Architecture
    James Kempf, Charlie Kaufman

[Mar-03]

current

Status: Identify particlar issues relating to the interaction of their WG activities and security considerations

+ Collate responses from wg chairs
  • IAB Workshop on DOS Attacks
    Mark Handley

[Mar-03]

current

Status: Initial scoping activity: a taxonomy paper on the various forms of attack. Also look at the role of a workshop and the potential players.

+ Initial draft prepared for IAB review (http://www.icir.org/mjh/tmp/dos.txt,
  • WG Status
    Leslie Daigle, All

[May-03]

current

Status: Provide the IAB with periodic summaries of the current status of those working groups that they actively follow.

+ 2003-07-09-WG-tracking.html
  • Response to ENUM query
    Patrik Faltstrom

[Jul-03]

closed

Status: Draft response to RIPE NCC proposal to alter the definition of role contacts in the ENUM registry

+ 2003-07-24-enum-contacts.html
  • IANA instruction for IP6.ARPA
    Geoff Huston

[Jul-03]

current

Status: Draft instructions to IANA concerning instruction to delegate 2.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA to the RIRs
* IAB Member details web page
Geoff Huston

[Jul-03]

current

Status: Add an expanded members web page with affiliations, etc, to the IAB web site.
* Address Architecture
Mark Handley

[Jul-03]

current

Status: Summarize the issues raised at the Open Meeting
* Address Architecture Discussion
Eric Rescorla

[Jul-03]

current

Status: Moderate a mailing list dedicated to followup on the address architecture topic
* Liaison Statement Draft
Mike St Johns, Sally Floyd

[Jul-03]

current

Status: Lead IAB consideration of draft-baker-liaisons-00.txt at the August IAB meeting
* 6to4 reverse delegation
Geoff Huston

[Jul-03]

current

Status: Issue instructions to IANA to delegate 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa to an RIR-nominated entity

+ Advise RIRs that Patrik Faltstrom and Rob Austein should be involved in the RIR implementation, as IAB-nominated experts, to assist in the design.

Documents

  • Security Mechanisms for the Internet

draft-iab-secmech-03.txt
Charlie Kaufman, Steve Bellovin

[May-01]

current

Status: IAB Chair

1. (current) Submit 03 to RFC Editor
  • A survey of Authentication Mechanisms

draft-iab-auth-mech-01.txt
Eric Rescorla

[Apr-02]

current

Status: Review

1. (current) final review prior to IETF Call
2. (next) IETF Call for Input
  • Internet Architecture and End-to-End

draft-iab-e2e-futures-03.txt
James Kempf, Rob Austein

[Jul-02]

current

Status: Review

1. (current) final review prior to IETF Call
2. (next) IETF Call for Input
  • Internationalized Resource Identifiers

draft-iab-char-rep-00.txt
Leslie Daigle

[Nov-02]

current

Status: Drafting

1. (current) Leslie to review the draft
  • Service Identification in packets

draft-iab-service-considerations-01.txt
Mike St Johns, Geoff Huston

[Nov-02]

IETF Comment

Status: Review

1. (current) 02 draft being prepared with call for input comments included
2. (next) submit 02 to RFC Editor
  • Transport Controls for VOIP

draft-iab-congestion-00.txt
Sally Floyd, James Kempf

[Nov-02]

current

Status: Review

1. (current) review and discussion
  • IANA Definition

draft-iab-iana-02.txt
Geoff Huston

[Nov-02]

current

Status: Review

1. (current) revised per IAB comments
2. (next) Review document progress in August
  • ISOC Trustee Appointment Process

draft-iab-isocbot-00.txt
Leslie Daigle

[Nov-02]

current

Status: BCP

1. (current) Pass to Harald as General Area AD for IESG-managed BCP publication
  • IAB Research Agenda

draft-iab-research-funding-01.txt
Sally Floyd, Vern Paxson, Ran Atkinson, Mike St Johns, John Crowcroft

[Jul-02]

current

Status: Editing

1. (current) Document the need for funding for further research for the Internet, including documenting important topics for research.
2. (next) The document under development covers the need for research in general and identifies specific areas of research.
3. (next) Sally – feedback appreciate – there are as yet unwritten sections and assistance will be coopted
4. (next) Bernard – wireless research is underfunded – will send mail
5. (next) Sally – there is a commted out section referencing Rob on DNS
6. (next) Patrik to write section on issues around address scoping and related routing and application interactions
7. (next) Review progress in August
  • IAB Overview

http://www.iab.org/connexions.html
All

[Mar-03]

current

Status: IAB review – proposed updates requested

1. (current) ekr to consider underting editor role.
  • IAB Considerations on Discovery Mechanisms and IPv6
    Bernard Aboba, James Kempf

[Mar-03]

current

Status: Drafting

1. (current) Redraft as a descriptive framework plus individual proposed contributions as desired
  • IAB Research Agenda – Operational Areas
    Geoff Huston, Rob Austein, James Kempf

[May-03]

current

Status: Drafting

1. (current) Document the need for funding for further research for the Internet, including documenting important topics for research relating to operatial activities
2. (next) Document focusing on operational concerns.

These minutes were prepared by Geoff Huston; comments should be sent to iab-execd@iab.org. An online copy of these and other minutes is available at: http://www.iab.org/documents/IABmins/

The IAB Web page is at http://www.iab.org