Minutes interim-2004-iesg-02 2004-01-22 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the January 22, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Patrik Falstrom / Cisco (Temporary IAB Liaison)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the January 8, 2004 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the January 8, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o Two Document Ballot Set
    - draft-ietf-sacred-protocol-bss-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-sacred-framework-07.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-sipping-3pcc-06.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-stateless-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-mip4-aaa-nai-02.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o Eight Document Set
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-apps-04.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-05.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-int-03.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-intro-06.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-routing-03.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-sec-04.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-subip-04.txt (Informational RFC)
    - draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-trans-05.txt(Informational RFC)
    o draft-ietf-msec-arch-05.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Allison Mankin and Margaret Wasserman to draft announcement
    message for PROTO Team to be discussed by the IESG.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations.
    o Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed
    revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF
    mailing lists.
    o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send
    to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision
    on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor.
    o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC
    Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions.

    NEW:

    o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a
    description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing
    list.
    o The Secretariat will post its current procedures for processing IPR
    disclosures on the internal IESG Web page.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-sip-session-timer-13.txt - 1 of 6
    Session Timers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-sigtran-dua-07.txt - 2 of 6
    DPNSS/DASS 2 extensions to the IUA protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 3 of 6
    - draft-ietf-rohc-mib-rtp-09.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for Robus Header Compression (Proposed
    Standard)
    - draft-ietf-rohc-terminology-and-examples-02.txt
    RObust Header Compression (ROHC):Terminology and Channel Mapping Examples
    (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending a possible title change
    to be documented in an RFC Editor Note prepared by Allison Mankin. The
    Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
    Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note (if applicable).

    o draft-ietf-mboned-ssm232-07.txt - 4 of 6
    Source-Specific Protocol Independent Multicast in 232/8 (BCP)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-newreno-02.txt - 5 of 6
    The NewReno Modification to TCP's Fast Recovery Algorithm (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-sntp-00.txt - 6 of 6
    Simple Network Time Protocol Configuration Option for DHCPv6 (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten, Bert Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-14.txt - 1 of 1
    Policy Based Management MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-orman-public-key-lengths-07.txt - 1 of 2
    Determining Strengths For Public Keys Used For Exchanging Symmetric
    Keys (BCP)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o draft-jones-opsec-03.txt - 2 of 2
    Operational Security Requirements for IP Network Infrastructure (BCP)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/05/2004) by
    Bill Fenner.

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-slowstart-00.txt - 1 of 4
    Limited Slow-Start for TCP with Large Congestion Windows (Experimental)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-nsis-fw-05.txt - 2 of 4
    Next Steps in Signaling: Framework (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-ietf-pim-dm-new-v2-04.txt - 3 of 4
    Protocol Independent Multicast - Dense Mode (PIM-DM):Protocol
    Specification (Revised) (Experimental)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-problem-issue-statement-05.txt - 4 of 4
    IETF Problem Statement (Informational)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/05/2004)
    by the IESG.

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 2
    Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-hayashi-igap-03.txt - 2 of 2
    Internet Group membership Authentication Protocol (IGAP)
    (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this
    document. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message
    prepared by Margaret Wasserman to the RFC Editor.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Improved Cross-Area Review (icar) - 1 of 5
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review
    pending text revisions from Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send
    a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The
    Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the
    next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004).

    o IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming (mobike) - 2 of 5
    Token: Steven Bellovin

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004).

    o Detecting Network Attachment (dna) - 3 of 5
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004).

    o TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions (tcpm) - 4 of 5
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004).

    o Host Identity Payload (hip) - 5 of 5
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The announcement will include the description
    of a related IRTF research group, to be prepared by Margaret
    Wasserman. The Secretariat will place the working group on the
    agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/05/2004).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o IP over DVB (ipdvb) - 1 of 3
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC (pki4ipsec) - 2 of 3
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (capwap) - 3 of 3
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
    edited text from Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a WG
    Action announcement .

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 1 of 3
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Zero Configuration Networking (zeroconf) - 2 of 3
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Cross Registry Information Service Protocol (crisp) - 3 of 3
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 the IESG's -- and IETF's -- role in RFC Editor documents
    (Steve Bellovin)

    This management issue was postponed until the next IESG
    Teleconference (02/05/2004).

    7.2 IANA allocations for ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh (Alex Zinin)

    This management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to recommend
    that IANA moves the assignment for ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh to
    value 4 and mark value 3 as reserved.

    7.3 status and purpose of new-work mailing list (Bert Wijnen)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott
    Bradner on a description of the purpose of and procedures for
    the new-work mailing list.

    7.4 Discussion of IANA Note (Thomas Narten)

    This management issue was discussed.

    7.5 Procedure for Handling IPR Statements (Thomas Narten)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: The Secretariat will post its current procedures
    for processing IPR disclosures on the internal IESG Web page.

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