Minutes interim-2009-iesg-18 2009-09-24 15:30
minutes-interim-2009-iesg-18-200909241530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 24, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 10, 2009 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 10, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the September 10, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-16ng-ip-over-ethernet-over-802-dot-16-12.txt (Proposed
    Standard)
  o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-mps-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-uemclip-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-civic-address-recommendations-03.txt (BCP)
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-16.txt (Proposed
    Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect-13.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-rmt-pi-norm-revised-14.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-avt-seed-srtp-14.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-10.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Magnus Westerlund to find an expert for LCT Header Extensions.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE
    P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document.
  o Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with an
    implementation plan for tracking changes to working group charters.

UPDATED:
  o Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link
    Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol and report back at the
    next telechat (October 8, 2009).

NEW
  NONE

2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-09.txt
    iCalendar Transport-Independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP)
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov, Alexey Melnikov on behalf of IANA,
and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-rsasha256-14.txt
    Use of SHA-2 algorithms with RSA in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource
    Records for DNSSEC (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-extractor-07.txt
    Keying Material Exporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 5
    Token: Pasi Eronen

Lisa Dusseault formally recused herself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Pasi Eronen.

  o draft-ietf-dime-pmip6-04.txt
    Diameter Proxy Mobile IPv6: Mobile Access Gateway and Local
    Mobility Anchor Interaction with Diameter Server (Proposed
    Standard) - 4 of 5
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format-03.txt
    Trust Anchor Format (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 5
    Token: Tim Polk

Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov, Dan Romascanu and Magnus Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-peterson-rai-rfc3427bis-03.txt
    Change Process for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

Cullen Jennings and Robert Sparks formally recused themselves from the
discussion.  The document remains under discussion by the IESG in
order to resolve points raised by Adrian Farrel, Alexey Melnikov, Tim
Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-08.txt
    Presence Interdomain Scaling Analysis for SIP/SIMPLE
    (Informational) - 1 of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (October 8, 2009)
by Cullen Jennings.

  o draft-ietf-roll-building-routing-reqs-07.txt
    Building Automation Routing Requirements in Low Power and Lossy
    Networks (Informational) - 2 of 5
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management-09.txt
    Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of New
    Protocols and Protocol Extensions (Informational) - 3 of 5
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-pkix-other-certs-05.txt
    Other Certificates Extension (Experimental) - 4 of 5
    Token: Tim Polk

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-presence-scaling-requirements-02.txt
    Scaling Requirements for Presence in SIP/SIMPLE (Informational) - 5
    of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-seokung-msec-mikey-seed-03.txt
    Addition of the new values to use the SEED Cipher Algorithm in the
    Multimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY) (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley and Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-harkins-emu-eap-pwd-08.txt
    EAP Authentication Using Only A Password (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (October 8, 2009)
by Alexey Melnikov.

  o draft-solinas-rfc4753bis-00.txt
    ECP Groups for IKE and IKEv2 (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Adrian Farrel.*

3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
    NONE
3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Multipath TCP (mptcp) - 1 of 1
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (October 8, 2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o  Virtual World Region Agent Protocol (vwrap) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 2
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (October 8,
2009).

  o Access Node Control Protocol (ancp) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate
message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (October 8,
2009).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) - 1 of 2
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) - 2 of 2
    Token: Tim Polk

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 Appointment of Language Tag expert reviewer as per draft-ietf-
ltru-4646bis-23 (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG reappointed Michael
Everson as the primary expert reviewer and approved Doug Ewell
(dewell@adelphia.net) as the secondary expert reviewer for Language
Tags.

 6.2 Link Relations Request [IANA #259813] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new
Atom Link Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol and report back
at the next telechat (October 8, 2009).

 6.3 Approval of application/xslt+xml Media Type (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the
application/xslt+xml Media Type.

 6.4 Expert for PSAMP selectorAlgorithm Identifiers [IANA #233539]
(Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Juergen Quittek
(quittek@netlab.nec.de) as the expert for PSAMP selectorAlgorithm
Identifiers.

 6.5 Removal of registry page (ip-xns-mapping) [IANA #164140] (Michelle
Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  IANA will mark the registry as
"for information only" and will not remove it.

 6.6 Potential Chinese Venue (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed that the IETF
needs to run meetings as it always has, using tools it always has,
with a critical mass of the traditional participants, discussing the
usual topics.

 6.7 IANA expert for LCT Header extensions (Magnus Westerlund)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Mark Watson
(watson@qualcomm.com) as the primary reviewer and Vincent Roca
(vincent.roca@inrialpes.fr) as the secondary reviewer for LCT Header
extensions.

7. Working Group News

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